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Serious title challenge, latter stages of the Champions League and/or a cup win.
Agree.A serious title challenge and a trophy.
Coming second without really being in it will not be enough for me. With Varane, Sancho and Trippier, this is the very least I expect.
None of that is going to happen based on how we keep handing fringe players fat paychecks.At least a domestic cup semi-final appearance, QF matchup in CL, and top 3 in the PL with a real title challenge into April and May.
The league will be much more competitive this year with Chelsea maturing domestically under Tuchel, Liverpool shouldn't be as underperforming for periods of time like last season, City is kind of up in the air because the transfer window isn't closed yet for them, and Leicester are very competitive under Rodgers.
United will not have an undefeated away record for too much longer, but their home record won't be as it was last year. So the points should balance out a bit, so that's a push.
I'm more interested in how the team continues to change during the 22/23 season. That will result in more potential player changes like Cavani, Pogba, DDG, maybe an older head like Matic or Mata leaving. And then Ole's position, considering if there's another clear bump in performance or if the team needs another tweak or two.
This should be our reasonable expectation. No, of course not a guarantee. Cruel fate gets in the way...look at Liverpool last season. But if the question asked is what do we expect of this squad as it know it today (July 20), surely the only answer has to be winning the league.If we sign Varane I think we should be looking to win the the league
There have been a lot of dumb mistakes, but under Ole and this new structure, they should be more ruthless and forward thinking...not afraid of cutting players loose.None of that is going to happen based on how we keep handing fringe players fat paychecks.
As of today, without Varane, push for a title challenge, but I'd ultimately expect another team to win unless we had some very good luck. With Varane, we should be looking to win it because Maguire and Varane would be the best CB pairing in Europe. Title winning teams are built on defences.This should be our reasonable expectation. No, of course not a guarantee. Cruel fate gets in the way...look at Liverpool last season. But if the question asked is what do we expect of this squad as it know it today (July 20), surely the only answer has to be winning the league.
City's leftback and striker problems are much bigger than Manchester United's CM problems. But I am sure most City fan's expect a league challenge even without any new signings. If we get Varane and Trippier on top of Sancho, it is a title challenge till the last month or bust.I'll reserve my final judgement until after the transfer window, but I will say this now: on paper, even with Sancho and Varane, we are not that much better than Liverpool and Chelsea. Anyone who takes it for granted that we finish minimum 2nd needs a reality check.
Minimum expectations:
Comfortable top 4 finish. And if we finish 4th, then we should only be a few points behind 2nd place.
Reasonable expectations:
A title challenge. My definition of 'title challenge': no more than 5 points behind the 1st place on match day 37.
Beyond expectations:
Winning the PL or CL.
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If we sign a really good CM, then I think we should expect a title challenge. Although that would also mean that we throw in 3 new players, who possibly never have played PL football, straight into the starting XI. It may take some time before the team starts to gel.
The importance of Varane cannot be overstated. It seems certain that he’s coming to OT and if he does he’s a transformational addition to the squad.As of today, without Varane, push for a title challenge, but I'd ultimately expect another team to win unless we had some very good luck. With Varane, we should be looking to win it because Maguire and Varane would be the best CB pairing in Europe. Title winning teams are built on defences.
You’re right. Multiple trophies!Feck it we signed Ronaldo. I'm upping my expectations to include winning the league, the Champions League, the Cup and the Ryder Cup.
They’re the same until the new manager comes in. Ole doesn’t get off the hook.I know this is probably a pointless bump but a bit of a reality check about how off course this season is going when you see what people expected
@devilrua new DOF?City and Chelsea squads are way better than Uniteds and they'll be adding some world class signings no doubt, but that isn't even our main problem going into next season.
United's main handicap is the relatively low level of our manager and coaches ( mid tablers mostly), thanks to a totally unprofessional recruitment policy, which really is 'jobs for the lads' type nonsense that no other top club would put up with. I mean what other club would have Solksjaer as manager and have Carrick, Fletcher and Phelan as coaches. Mind-boggling incompetence for a club that is supposed to have world class ambition.
With 3 of the best managers in the world right now, Guardiola, Klopp and Tuchel overseeing our 3 main premier league rivals, ably supported by proper top class, international coaching teams, United have very little chance of even challenging. Top 4 will be a struggle to be fair.