What are your feelings on Roy Keane?

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Great player, great captain but he's not one to let things go and loves a good moan and picking fights. Sometimes he's good to listen to but depends on the subject and if you're in the right mood.
 

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I think he s still hurt about his departure from the club.
He says that Fergie could have handled it better.
I m not convinced that there was a possible way with which Roy could not feel hurt.

It s not nice but as a manager you have to do it all the time.

At 34, with injuries taking their toll, his legs were gone but he seems to suggest that he was still valid. Not for United I m afraid. He was like a high mileage car who was best at covering long distances. Unfortunately it could not be relied upon any more.
I know it s sad for someone who had the club at his heart but it s inevitable
 

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I think he s still hurt about his departure from the club.
He says that Fergie could have handled it better.
I m not convinced that there was a possible way with which Roy could not feel hurt.

It s not nice but as a manager you have to do it all the time.

At 34, with injuries taking their toll, his legs were gone but he seems to suggest that he was still valid. Not for United I m afraid. He was like a high mileage car who was best at covering long distances. Unfortunately it could not be relied upon any more.
I know it s sad for someone who had the club at his heart but it s inevitable
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I think he s still hurt about his departure from the club.
If you read the book you could sense how badly he took it.
Also, there are fragments in it where he actually admits he stepped out of line during the incident with Fergie. Only to be followed with the next paragraph where he goes back fuming about it.
Like he is constantly arguing with himself. No wonder he is arguing with everyone else in the meantime.
 

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As a player, he was an absolute hero of mine.....and I did meet him once when he was still playing for United.

I was on holiday in Paris, mingling in the crowds, and I did literally bump into Roy Keane coming in the opposite direction.
I must have had a look of total shock as I recognised my hero. my eyes wide, mouth agape, all I could muster was..."Keano"...
He just stared at me and snarled "Feck Off..!" and he shouldered past me.

With that he wife came up to me and apologised saying that he could be such a bastard at times.

Anyway, later that night we were in a restaurant, I felt a hand on my shoulder, it was Roy Keane.
He apologised profusely for our earlier encounter, and he had a couple of bottles of wine delivered to our table...:devil:
Great story. He’s definitely got cards missing out of his deck.
 

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I remember the rule of not giving players 30 or more, more than one years extension, so SAF gave Roy a 5 year contract at 29. Sadly the last two years were not at his usual high standards. Great player until about 32 and then his legs went, as they always do at some point.
 

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As a player, he was an absolute hero of mine.....and I did meet him once when he was still playing for United.

I was on holiday in Paris, mingling in the crowds, and I did literally bump into Roy Keane coming in the opposite direction.
I must have had a look of total shock as I recognised my hero. my eyes wide, mouth agape, all I could muster was..."Keano"...
He just stared at me and snarled "Feck Off..!" and he shouldered past me.

With that he wife came up to me and apologised saying that he could be such a bastard at times.

Anyway, later that night we were in a restaurant, I felt a hand on my shoulder, it was Roy Keane.
He apologised profusely for our earlier encounter, and he had a couple of bottles of wine delivered to our table...:devil:
Makes you wonder whether he s mentally...let's say "stable"..
 

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He has never publicly criticised the Glazers. We need him to launch an attack on the owners, rather than look out for himself.
 

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He has never publicly criticised the Glazers. We need him to launch an attack on the owners, rather than look out for himself.
In the last month or so there was a rumour that Ole went to Keano's house in Ireland and tried to convince to return to the club as part of the coaching staff. But someone within the club is blocking the move.
 

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In the last month or so there was a rumour that Ole went to Keano's house in Ireland and tried to convince to return to the club as part of the coaching staff. But someone within the club is blocking the move.
Thank god for that!

If this rumor was true I'd most likely even turn on Ole myself!
 

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Is this sarcasm?
No, but he's not alone, Scholes, Giggs, Neville, even Ince has kept quiet. Beckham wore the scarf once.
I'd love Eric and Roy to start a protest that will bring down those parasitical worms. I don't know what they think they stand to gain from the Glazers.
 

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Thank god for that!

If this rumor was true I'd most likely even turn on Ole myself!
It would be fecked up and very interesting. He could be the fuel that re lights the fire or a nuclear bomb. But we desperately need a couple of players with at least half the dedication and footballing presence of Keane. He just wouldn't be conducive right now to the task of steadying the ship.
 

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It would be fecked up and very interesting. He could be the fuel that re lights the fire or a nuclear bomb. But we desperately need a couple of players with at least half the dedication and footballing presence of Keane. He just wouldn't be conducive right now to the task of steadying the ship.
It'd be anything but interesting, it'd just be another Jose all over again. I'm hoping its little more than a rumor and Ole isn't serious about this.

As you say, it'd complete unsteady the ship Ole is trying to right again.
 

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It'd be anything but interesting, it'd just be another Jose all over again. I'm hoping its little more than a rumor and Ole isn't serious about this.

As you say, it'd complete unsteady the ship Ole is trying to right again.
I just hope ole has been told he's there for 2 seasons to bring the youngsters on and clear out the ones who have to go. I've accepted top 4 is a mountain this season but if the younger ones start establishing themselves this season and kick on next year I'll take that as no way could this season be a good one with so many other positions to improve. I think it's see if Martial and Rashford will actually make it, hopefully Greenwood finds his feet gradually and the others and sign better players in midfield and attack if they don't. Was never going to be fixed this summer. Sorry for wall of text am on the phone.
 

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World class player and one of our best ever.
As a pundit he speaks his mind and I find him entertaining unlike most on MUTV and some of our other great players who bring back memories of my childhood visits to the dentist once they start rambling on.
 

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I love Roy Keane. Nothing he says about Ferguson can change that.

People seem to forget that a lot of the things he does nowadays is because of the way he is, which played a big part of him being the player that he was.

It's the way it is, but it's a travesty that the likes of Shaw, Lingard, Rojo etc earns far more money in their contracts than the contract Keane had to fight for in 2001.
 

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I love Roy Keane. Nothing he says about Ferguson can change that.

People seem to forget that a lot of the things he does nowadays is because of the way he is, which played a big part of him being the player that he was.

It's the way it is, but it's a travesty that the likes of Shaw, Lingard, Rojo etc earns far more money in their contracts than the contract Keane had to fight for in 2001.
100%. Ferguson and Keane are born winners. The spat is an embodiment of their mentality.
 

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He's a fecking parody these days. He loves the attention he gets for being "no nonsense Roy" but at the end of the day that's been a big part of why his management and coaching career has been a failure. He's a very incomplete and underdeveloped personality.

I loved him as a player for both united and Ireland but it's very hard to feel any warmth towards him these days. By all accounts he's an intelligent man who should have had a lot more to offer the game. But he seems intent on being the bitter old man that gets wheeled out whenever some podcast wants a bit of cheap publicity. It strikes me as a huge waste.
 

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He's a fecking parody these days. He loves the attention he gets for being "no nonsense Roy" but at the end of the day that's been a big part of why his management and coaching career has been a failure. He's a very incomplete and underdeveloped personality.

I loved him as a player for both united and Ireland but it's very hard to feel any warmth towards him these days. By all accounts he's an intelligent man who should have had a lot more to offer the game. But he seems intent on being the bitter old man that gets wheeled out whenever some podcast wants a bit of cheap publicity. It strikes me as a huge waste.
Spot on. That 'hardman, set-in-his-ways stubborn Irishman' persona is getting tiring now. He needs to give it a rest and focus on doing something positive with his career, as he's done the square root of feck all after skulking out of the club apart from a couple of failed managerial posts.
 

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Legend fantastic player. So he fell out with SAF so what? People fall out all the time especially family which was what SAF tried to create.

He is a real character who says exactly what he thinks which is great wish we had a few more like him now.
 

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I'm getting really fed up with our fanbase. Juvenile bollocks posted on this board constantly.

Calling a club legend a cnut shows just how entitled and bitter our fanbase has become.
As I said, as a player I respect everything he's done for the club. However, he acts like an absolute dick when he doesnt need to.
 

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The thing with Keane is that what made him so good on the pitch from a mental aspect, also makes him hard to deal with off the pitch. I can't ever blame Keane or Fergie because if they weren't so strong willed then they wouldn't have achieved what they have for us. Both amazing leaders.

It's slightly sad that they don't talk. Like Neville said, they're cut from the same cloth. It means they clash but if they can look past the rubbish and laugh about it them they'd probably have a lot of good memories to talk about.

But i blame neither for anything, it is what it is. I actually think Keane comes across well in that interview. You can tell he's playing up to it a bit at times but the stuff about Fergie and him not talking clearly cuts deep, probably visibly more than anything else he talks about.
 

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It’s not as if he can go and give an old man a hood hiding is it? A bitching is the next best thing.
 

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The thing with Keane is that what made him so good on the pitch from a mental aspect, also makes him hard to deal with off the pitch. I can't ever blame Keane or Fergie because if they weren't so strong willed then they wouldn't have achieved what they have for us. Both amazing leaders.

It's slightly sad that they don't talk. Like Neville said, they're cut from the same cloth. It means they clash but if they can look past the rubbish and laugh about it them they'd probably have a lot of good memories to talk about.

But i blame neither for anything, it is what it is. I actually think Keane comes across well in that interview. You can tell he's playing up to it a bit at times but the stuff about Fergie and him not talking clearly cuts deep, probably visibly more than anything else he talks about.
I actually don't think they're as cut from the same cloth as it looks. One of Keane's problems for me is he seems overly nostalgic and stuck in the football culture and general culture of the late '80s and '90s. He loves nothing more than Clough and how things worked in the PL on the pitch and in the dressing rooms during that period. Playing style, his strengths were exactly what was needed in that environment and his weaknesses were barely if ever exposed, same with most great players really. Off the pitch, his mentality was nothing shocking at that time, he was just one of the hardest, most intense individuals of the era which complimented his footballing value. Basically his quality and personality were the perfect match for that environment and period.

Fast forward to the mid '00s and what was coming with the influx of foreign players, different criteria being emphasized and methods of playing and managing to compete in the new PL landscape, Fergie as ever adapted and understood that you can't face every challenge with the same rule book. Keane did not and he still does not seem to understand that football and people change and if you don't keep up, you will come across bitter and resentful the way he does nowadays.
 

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Can't start a new thread cause of my posting privileges, but a 3 hour interview himself and Neville gave to Off The Ball is causing a big stir in Ireland today, paticularly about his comments about Jon Walters, but this bit is fascinating.
Neville comes across like an idiot. He cuts off the host apparently to make an important point, then just spends 10 minutes mumbling and adding nothing of value,