What do we still need? Aka The never ending story

Our defense has some issues as well despite being well stocked. We often get bullied especially when there’s a cross or cutback into the box.
 
croadyman said:
Who would be those 5 provided we get Champions League and manage to sell players?
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Not gonna name any names cause that is the massive scouting department job, but by position it is 1-2 CFs depending on hojlund, 1-2 attacking mids depending on garnacho, 1 CM, a heaven level CB prospect, a wingback, and swapping out Onana for a better goalkeeper.
 
Depends on budget I guess:

GK - Garcia - 25 mil
RWB - Aina - Free
CB - Tah/Boscagli - Free
CAM/CF - David - Free
CAM - Cunha - 65 million
ST - Delap - 30 million

Also need a CM who has the right athletic and ball progressing capabilities, think all these targets are bearable and reasonable in price and would elevate the team in some way, obviously I’d like a better striker than Delap but I doubt we have the sort of money required if we shell out 60+ on Cunha.

Also depends if we manage to move on some players as well.
 
Am I the only one worried about not being able to sell rashford and sancho ? Both on high wages, neither of them had a strong loan.
 
Baneofthegame said:
Depends on budget I guess:

GK - Garcia - 25 mil
RWB - Aina - Free
CB - Tah/Boscagli - Free
CAM/CF - David - Free
CAM - Cunha - 65 million
ST - Delap - 30 million

Also need a CM who has the right athletic and ball progressing capabilities, think all these targets are bearable and reasonable in price and would elevate the team in some way, obviously I’d like a better striker than Delap but I doubt we have the sort of money required if we shell out 60+ on Cunha.

Also depends if we manage to move on some players as well.
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Could only see us signing one of those free agents, feels like Mbeumo and Cunha links are only if we sell Garnacho. I really hope we get that Garcia before Arsenal agree a deal for him to cover Raya. Completely agree that we need to sign a CM who has the profile of an athletic ball progressor
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Absolute priority this summer (for finishing in top 4 next year) is the same as last summer.
1. Top class striker (Osimhen, Isak or Gyokeres)
2. Top class starting creative dmc.

To challenge for PL;
3. starting no10 (Cunha?)
4. starting left wing back
5. New gk

New gk (Bayandir)
Yoro (Heaven)
De Ligt (Harry)
Shaw (Lisandro)
Dalot (Maz) / (Amad as first choice??)
New wb (Dorgu)
Case (Ugarte)
New dmc (Mainoo)
Bruno (Amad☆)
Cunha (Garnacho)
New ST (Zirkzee)

☆ Amad and Bruno are tough ones. They are our best players by far but where Amorim sees them is a huge question. With us being interested in Cunha, one will get new position in best 11. Either Bruno goes in midfield or Amad goes on right flank.
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Not a chance we sign a starting lwb after dropping 30m of a very limited budget on Dorgu, complete fantasy. I do agree we needed someone better than dorgu, a kerkez or Ait-Nouri but that ship has sailed
 
Ghostrider318 said:
Am I the only one worried about not being able to sell rashford and sancho ? Both on high wages, neither of them had a strong loan.
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I still think Sancho will go to Chelsea. He's been playing a lot of minutes for them and will be a decent squad option for them even if they don't see him as their long-term starter.

Rashford I'm more worried about, especially with this new injury. Even with the 40m clause Villa had, I still thought they would always come back and renegotiate that due to his wages, which are a massive problem. Only solution is for Rashford to accept less money, otherwise it's going to be another loan for him next season I fear.
 
croadyman said:
Could only see us signing one of those free agents, feels like Mbeumo and Cunha links are only if we sell Garnacho. I really hope we get that Garcia before Arsenal agree a deal for him to cover Raya. Completely agree that we need to sign a CM who has the profile of an athletic ball progressor
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Yeah I also highly doubt we sign three free agents, just wanted to try and reinforce the team without blowing 250 million.

Stiller is intriguing to me, not sure how much he would cost.
 
ron86 said:
Not a chance we sign a starting lwb after dropping 30m of a very limited budget on Dorgu, complete fantasy. I do agree we needed someone better than dorgu, a kerkez or Ait-Nouri but that ship has sailed
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Yeah we should have waited for one of them instead but like you say that ship has sailed now
 
In order of priority:

1. An established, reliable striker.
2. A strong midfielder who adds physicality and ball-carrying ability.
3. A creative attacking midfielder.
4. A sane goalkeeper.
5. A squad member in central defence (as Lindelof and Evans are going, and you’d assume we’ll have injuries to cover).
 
Minkaro said:
In order of priority:

1. An established, reliable striker.
2. A strong midfielder who adds physicality and ball-carrying ability.
3. A creative attacking midfielder.
4. A sane goalkeeper.
5. A squad member in central defence (as Lindelof and Evans are going, and you’d assume we’ll have injuries to cover).
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Is Cunha 1 or 3?
 
Watching today's semi final - Inter Milan are just a team of pure experience.

Was there even a player under 22 in the first XI?

I always want us to sign youngsters because they are more fun to watch develop but there's a reason why Bruno is our main player - a lot of it is down to him not being 20 years old.
 
Baneofthegame said:
Yeah I also highly doubt we sign three free agents, just wanted to try and reinforce the team without blowing 250 million.

Stiller is intriguing to me, not sure how much he would cost.
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Yeah I will be honest I don't know much about him, have just seen his name touted around on here
 
Quagmaguire said:
Watching today's semi final - Inter Milan are just a team of pure experience.

Was there even a player under 22 in the first XI?

I always want us to sign youngsters because they are more fun to watch develop but there's a reason why Bruno is our main player - a lot of it is down to him not being 20 years old.
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Their squad is insanely old but they have Bastoni, DiMarco, Barella, Martinez and Thuram who are 26-28 years old and in the Top 10 (if not top 5) in their positions. That's a reliable strong core! Vets like Sommer and Calhanoglu are also up there in terms of quality.
 
Minkaro said:
In order of priority:

1. An established, reliable striker.
2. A strong midfielder who adds physicality and ball-carrying ability.
3. A creative attacking midfielder.
4. A sane goalkeeper.
5. A squad member in central defence (as Lindelof and Evans are going, and you’d assume we’ll have injuries to cover).
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So let's go

1. Gyokeres
2. Anguissa
3. Cunha
4. Garcia
5. Tah

You might want to add wingback for number 6, however will admit it's unlikely we sign that many this summer.
 
croadyman said:
So let's go

1. Gyokeres
2. Anguissa
3. Cunha
4. Garcia
5. Tah

You might want to add wingback for number 6, however will admit it's unlikely we sign that many this summer.
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That seems doable. Tah and Anguissa (I think) are out of contract, and the rest have release clauses. We’d look much stronger after that.

For me, I’d love Baleba, but he’d be ridiculously expensive.
 
Watching Casemiro after the first goal against Bilbao, shouting and barking orders, and how we went for the throat immediately after that goal, it highlighted to me the importance of having that kind of leadership on the field. Don't get me wrong, love Bruno, but he's a lead by example type. I think of our Europa league form has benefited from having someone on the pitch just telling everyone else what they need to be doing (or more often, what they shouldn't be doing). That Amorim has managed to get Casemiro to work in Europe should be a big mark in his plus column, but there are limits and Casemiro showed last year that he has he limits in the league.

Point being - do we also need a leader with that ability to add value in the league (in addition to everything else we need)? Who, I don't know. But we got a young team, its going to get younger, and I think they're going to need someone to direct them when it gets tough.
 
Sentence said:
Their squad is insanely old but they have Bastoni, DiMarco, Barella, Martinez and Thuram who are 26-28 years old and in the Top 10 (if not top 5) in their positions. That's a reliable strong core! Vets like Sommer and Calhanoglu are also up there in terms of quality.
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Would take all of those first 5 players at Utd
 
We should take a serious look at Alex Baena from Villarreal. Literally the next Bruno, only 23 and creating chances like a madman. Take a look at him on YouTube and tell me he doesn't play like Bruno. The guy even has his body type and looks like him!
 
The priority for me like many others is the forward line. Our creative numbers are just awful and the team cannot progress with the current options.

Left 10:
Cunha. I posted in January that my 3 picks for this position where Cunha/Marmoosh and Kvat. With the latter two at City and PSG respectively it's Cunha for me. I'll add that Ive posted fairly extensively on the left sided forward from Shaktar called Kevin, I'd start a thread on him but don't have the forum capabilities currently. If Cunha ended up going elsewhere then he'd be my 2nd choice.

Striker:
Gyokores/Osimhen/Delap in that order. I hope the rumours about Gyokores is waiting to see if United getting champions league football is true because he'd be a significant upgrade. Would happily sell/swap Garnacho to Napoli for Osimhen. I like Delap and think he's a no brainer at £30m.

Right 10:
This is a little harder to predict because Amad is perfect for this role and it's much harder/more expensive to find an elite level right 10 than a right wing back. That being said we clearly can't go into next season with Amad as being our only viable option as a right 10 even if Amorim want's to use him there, at a minimum we need competition/squad depth. Cherki is an obvious one, United were heavily linked with Edon Zhegrova at Lille in the summer and with only 1 year left on his deal has been given permission to leave this summer. He's barely played in the 2nd half of this season due to injury but before he got sidelined was one of the most dynamic wingers in Europe. I wouldn't be surprised to see United move for him. There's also been a number of rumours about bigger money movies for Xabi Simons/Eze or Mbeumo. All of the above would be big assets.

Central midfield:
I know I'm in the minority here but feel as if most of our central midfielders have been unfairly criticised for what In my opinion is issues in the forward line so this area would be among the last I'd spend money on when money is limited. That being said Mateus Fernandes at Southampton has been superb and has individual numbers which compare well against most elite level CM's in the premier league. He's worked with Amorim before and with Southampton being relegated I'd happily pay anything in the range of what they paid to get him + a bit more, so 20-25m range.

With Ornstein reporting that Saudi are interested in Bruno the club has to seriously think about what kind of offer they'd accept and who would be brought in as a replacement. If the Saudi's did offer 120m then I think you just have to accept that and personally I'd use up to 80m of it to sign Elliott Anderson from Forrest.

Anderson vs Baleba in the premier league this season: https://ibb.co/svJHP6j2

Anderson vs Ederson: https://ibb.co/YFVj9B7J

Anderson Vs Gravenberch: https://ibb.co/whjSxmvv

Anderson vs Declan Rice: https://ibb.co/nqS8DZfC

Anderson vs Odegaard: https://ibb.co/s918Jx1z

Anderson vs Bruno Fernandes: https://ibb.co/6R812m7Q

Anderson vs Bruno Guimaraes: https://ibb.co/FbdrC6wm

Anderson vs Youri Tielemans: https://ibb.co/Rpdd4STv

Anderson vs Moises Caicedo: https://ibb.co/RpgFGjPK

Centre backs:
Like most posters I'd be delighted if we could sign Huijsen but he's constantly flirting with Real Madrid and Marca are now writing articles about him being a major target so he's out.
It'll all come down to price of course but ideally I'd love Zabarnyi or Murillo, preferably both. Jeremy Jacquet is probably the best young CB in France so he'd be a good option.
Outside of these you have Ribeiro at Lille/Balerdi at Marseille. I'd probably go hand Bournmouth 60m for Zabarnyi and feel good about it.

Right wing back:
Similar to right 10 there's a number of options. If Amorim wants to use Dorgu here then I'd sign Ait Nouri as my left wing back. I know a number of posters didn't like Dorgu in this position because he's left footed but somewhat bizarrely they were all fans of us signing Quenda..... That being said if the plan is to use Dorgu at left wing back then for right wing back my preferences would be Wesley (Flamengo) or Tobias (Shaktar) with Vanderson also an option although he's lower on my list because the money Monaco will want is likely too much. Wesley is available for around 35m and Tobias something similar.
 
Snormac said:
Watching Casemiro after the first goal against Bilbao, shouting and barking orders, and how we went for the throat immediately after that goal, it highlighted to me the importance of having that kind of leadership on the field. Don't get me wrong, love Bruno, but he's a lead by example type. I think of our Europa league form has benefited from having someone on the pitch just telling everyone else what they need to be doing (or more often, what they shouldn't be doing). That Amorim has managed to get Casemiro to work in Europe should be a big mark in his plus column, but there are limits and Casemiro showed last year that he has he limits in the league.

Point being - do we also need a leader with that ability to add value in the league (in addition to everything else we need)? Who, I don't know. But we got a young team, its going to get younger, and I think they're going to need someone to direct them when it gets tough.
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Good point. Morten Hjulmand from Sporting is that type of leader and a good DM.
 
1. Goalkeeper - Personally I'd go for Roma's Mile Svilar, Joan Garcia is also fine. We need to let go of Onana, a Saudi Arabia move for him would be great as it would also benefit us financially, but we cannot start the new season with him because nobody trusts him.
2. Second goalkeeper - Altay is not good enough too, so I'd let him go too. I'd get a free agent. Wojciech Szczesny is out of contract in the end of season, could be a good option. He has the experience we need at 35 years old.
3. Central midfielder - I would like to have a defensive player with good playing capabilities, someone like De Jong, but for sure we won't find a very good one. Ederson is good, not sure he's way better than Ugarte. But I think that Bruno should drop in the 2 man midfield starting from next season, so we should have more control of the game.
4. Right 10 - Mbuemo would be great, attainable, Premier League experience, I think that he would be a great option. If not, Cherki. Personally I'd go for Mbuemo over Cherki because of personality issues.
5. Left 10 - Cunha, no debate about it, would give us much needed attacking flair.
6. Striker - Gyokeres, his record speaks for itself.

Svilar/Garcia
Mazraoui - De Ligt - Yoro
Amad - Ederson - Bruno - Dalot
Mbuemo - Cunha
Gyokeres​
 
Schmeichels pinky said:
Good point. Morten Hjulmand from Sporting is that type of leader and a good DM.
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Think he'd cost a fortune as he's got 3 years left on his deal, shame really because he'd be really good for us. Comfortable playing forwards and secure on the ball in a way none of our current midfielders are.
 
Ugarte - Bruno
Amad - Cunha
Osimhen


Should be our mid fundament. Both Cunha and Osimhen should be available this summer, albeit not cheap options. But with Rashford, Sancho, Antony leaving the team this should be doable.
 
tidraKS said:
1. Goalkeeper - Personally I'd go for Roma's Mile Svilar, Joan Garcia is also fine. We need to let go of Onana, a Saudi Arabia move for him would be great as it would also benefit us financially, but we cannot start the new season with him because nobody trusts him.
2. Second goalkeeper - Altay is not good enough too, so I'd let him go too. I'd get a free agent. Wojciech Szczesny is out of contract in the end of season, could be a good option. He has the experience we need at 35 years old.
3. Central midfielder - I would like to have a defensive player with good playing capabilities, someone like De Jong, but for sure we won't find a very good one. Ederson is good, not sure he's way better than Ugarte. But I think that Bruno should drop in the 2 man midfield starting from next season, so we should have more control of the game.
4. Right 10 - Mbuemo would be great, attainable, Premier League experience, I think that he would be a great option. If not, Cherki. Personally I'd go for Mbuemo over Cherki because of personality issues.
5. Left 10 - Cunha, no debate about it, would give us much needed attacking flair.
6. Striker - Gyokeres, his record speaks for itself.

Svilar/Garcia
Mazraoui - De Ligt - Yoro
Amad - Ederson - Bruno - Dalot
Mbuemo - Cunha
Gyokeres​
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No way we could fund that front 3 even with Europa League prize money and selling players. You either go Cunha, Dibbling/Mastantuono and Gyokeres or Cunha, Mbeumo/Eze and Delap. Which of those options are you choosing then?
 
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Onerealunited said:
Ugarte - Bruno
Amad - Cunha
Osimhen


Should be our mid fundament. Both Cunha and Osimhen should be available this summer, albeit not cheap options. But with Rashford, Sancho, Antony leaving the team this should be doable.
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Yes Osimhen could be available, however he won't go anywhere unless he drops those demands
 
Players who are comfortable with the ball. I get the need to raise the physicality levels of the team, but first and foremost we need to look at players who don't treat the ball like a hot potato.

Imagine a team of 11 Dorgus.
 
United666 said:
Players who are comfortable with the ball. I get the need to raise the physicality levels of the team, but first and foremost we need to look at players who don't treat the ball like a hot potato.

Imagine a team of 11 Dorgus.
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Yeah definitely need to add more of that
 
Cunha - £65m clause
Delap - £30m clause
Joan Garcia - £20m clause
Frimpong - £35m clause

-----------------------------Garcia
---------Mazraoui----De Ligt----Yoro
Frimpong----Bruno----------Ugarte----Dorgu
----------Amad---------Delap---------Cunha

Still a few short but...
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Cunha - £65m clause
Delap - £30m clause
Joan Garcia - £20m clause
Frimpong - £35m clause

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---------Mazraoui----De Ligt----Yoro
Frimpong----Bruno----------Ugarte----Dorgu
----------Amad---------Delap---------Cunha

Still a few short but...
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Couple of sales and could add either a prospect like Mastantuono/Dibbling or someone more prem proven. Obviously still need a midfielder as well but finding someone to fit profile isn't easy.
 
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