Yeah simply cannot afford to neglect midfield, however worry there won't be enough sales to sign a CM
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Yeah simply cannot afford to neglect midfield, however worry there won't be enough sales to sign a CM
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Yeah simply cannot afford to neglect midfield, however worry there won't be enough sales to sign a CM
We will sell, I think conversations around Antony and Rashford will have been going on a while as they were out on loan.
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Out:
Sancho 25m - No comments needed
Rashford 40m - No comments needed
Onana 25m - Not only the many easy goals, the huge mistakes and him not showing the aerial dominance - but also the main reason we bought him for, his ability to play as "modern libero GK" has not be seen at all to be honest and our defenders have lost the trust in him
Garnacho 55m - Well, the last match and the final against Tottenham said it all
Höjlund 45m - Simply not good enough and we dont have time for him to MAYBE one year explode and start scoring goals
Antony 30m - I can still see him given one more year if we can get him to play wing back but if the right offers comes in, i believe we will let him go though
Casemiro 20m - If we can get 20m for him, we should sell him even though he was amazing last 2 months in Europa League, but he was still struggling in the PL and this year we dont have any CL/EPL/ECL to think about and with Bruno staying and us bringing in both Cunha and Mbuemo (and having Amad and Zirkzee) playing in the 10s behind our striker, I believe we will see Bruno in a deeper role with little more freedom then the other CM going forward but Casemiro would not be able to cover the ground behind him and that is where we need to add one more CM to give Ugarte competition
Profit from sales (this is only extra money, nothing we should count on):
Elanga 50m to Newcastle - 35m profit for Nottingham and we are reported to have anywhere from 25-40% so lets say 30% which is around 12m
Greenwood is valued around 50m and 40% are mentioned here which would mean around 14m
Total: 240m (+12+14=266m)
In:
Cunha CAM 62.5 - in three payments so only 21m affects us this summer - This could be our new "Bruno" when it comes to a player who will fan favorite in many ways because he plays with his feelings and is a player you either love or hate. Many are worried about his temperature and that he can make some silly things that gets him in trouble, but that is a factor that IF a coach can handle it, may be a great thing (think Keane, Cantona, Bruno). Cunha is a lot more then a goal scorer, and he will be very important link for us upfront - especially if him and Bruno can find a bound very fast and come a long. Having Cunha, Bruno, Amad, Mbeumo and Gykerös in our starting eleven when the PL starts would and SHOULD give ANY team in league problems and we should not be leaving many games without scoring.
Mbeumo CAM/WINGBACK - 60m - Great signing, scored 20 goals and had 9 assist for Brentford, if we can start being the team we should be and get our sh/it together and play as good at the pitch as our starting eleven will look like, then there is no reason he should do any worse for us. He has the speed, can score with both feet, is a good dribbler, high football IQ and is hard working - just not sure he should play in the number 10 role and Amad winger, i would switch that around
Gykerös ST 60m - His scoring and assist record are out of this world these last 2 seasons, and we should not expect the same numbers in the PL but we should hopefully be able to get 20-25 goals "at least" with all these great players surrounding him upfront + Bruno from CM and our wing backs. The pressure will be huge but he has shown that he is proven goal scorer and that he can score all kinds of goals both for Sporting and the Swedish nation team
Mile Svilar GK 20m - This could be a steal, they dont want to pay him £3m per year, but he has 2 years left on his contract but Roma would let him go for 25m euros - he has impressed a lot this year, he has showcased sharp reflexes, strong distribution, and composure under pressure, have made him an attractive prospect. And he is only 25 years old (26 in august)
Carlos Baleba CM 80m - This 21 year old diamond is one we should not let another club get next summer since all other teams that have the money to pay for him are more in for players in other positions and gives us a chance to get him this summer. He is a defensive monster who can cover a lot of ground, he is among the best already in the league in progressive carries, possession regains per 90 minutes and interceptions. Whats even more impressive is that he is also very intelligent going forward and making great "easy" but very important passes to offensive players and he scored 3 goals and had 1 assist last season.
Jonathan David 0m - Should be a no brainer, he is not demanding any monster wager, is constantly scoring decent amount of goals and assists, is a hard working forward who can press very good and would be good back up to Gykerös if we sell Höjlund and I dont see Zirkzee as number 9
Total = 240m
That would mean that we still have our whole reported budget of 80-100m left. We have no cover for Dorgu on the left and my suggestion would be Miguel Gutiérrez, he is still young, 24 years in July and is good going forward (had 2 goals and 6 assists) playing LB for Girona. He is valued around 25m.
-----------------------------Svilar
------------------Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven
------Mbeumo - Baleba - Bruno - Dorgu
----------------------Amad - Cunha
---------------------------Gykerös
I know that the starting back line will probably involve Maguire and one of Mazraoui or Shaw, but i hope that at the end of season this back line is the one the has taken 1-2-3 steps (all players) and are the one for the future, there is so much potential there, I really hope De Ligt is picking up what makes Maguire so important for us and that speed in the central position is not so important if you play your cards right. And he has the potential, he showed it the last months, but we need him to stay fit as well and take back the leadership in him he had when he first came up as teenager in Ajax - I still believe that he has 20-30% more in him if he just finds a surrounding that believes in him and that he believes it himself.
Yoro showed already as teenager his potential and Heaven, even thought he didnt play much, is huge talent that we grabbed almost for free from Arsenal, which is just insane to be honest.
Amad maybe the one who will start at the wing back position and Mbeumo behind the striker, even though i would prefer Amad as close to goal as possible. The boy showed this season how skilled he is in that area and how important he is for us, even in games when we did not perform, he was always a threat and he had always 2-3 guys on him which opened a lot space for others but unfortunate we didnt have anyone to score the chances he or his presence created.
And our offense, with the skills that Amad, Mbuemo, Bruno, Cunha, Gykerös have, should be enough to almost double our goals in the PL next season. I am to tired to count how many goals we will add if get Mbuemo + Gykerös over the line, togheter with signing of Cunha and a Amad that will come in to season as starter that we now know how to use in the best way. But it is over like 20 (Mbuemo), 19 (Cunha) and like 38 from Gykerös in the league only. That alone is 77 goals... 77 goals in 3 players.
Sancho 25m - No comments needed
Rashford 40m - No comments needed
Onana 25m - Not only the many easy goals, the huge mistakes and him not showing the aerial dominance - but also the main reason we bought him for, his ability to play as "modern libero GK" has not be seen at all to be honest and our defenders have lost the trust in him
Garnacho 55m - Well, the last match and the final against Tottenham said it all
Höjlund 45m - Simply not good enough and we dont have time for him to MAYBE one year explode and start scoring goals
Antony 30m - I can still see him given one more year if we can get him to play wing back but if the right offers comes in, i believe we will let him go though
Casemiro 20m - If we can get 20m for him, we should sell him even though he was amazing last 2 months in Europa League, but he was still struggling in the PL and this year we dont have any CL/EPL/ECL to think about and with Bruno staying and us bringing in both Cunha and Mbuemo (and having Amad and Zirkzee) playing in the 10s behind our striker, I believe we will see Bruno in a deeper role with little more freedom then the other CM going forward but Casemiro would not be able to cover the ground behind him and that is where we need to add one more CM to give Ugarte competition
Profit from sales (this is only extra money, nothing we should count on):
Elanga 50m to Newcastle - 35m profit for Nottingham and we are reported to have anywhere from 25-40% so lets say 30% which is around 12m
Greenwood is valued around 50m and 40% are mentioned here which would mean around 14m
Total: 240m (+12+14=266m)
In:
Cunha CAM 62.5 - in three payments so only 21m affects us this summer - This could be our new "Bruno" when it comes to a player who will fan favorite in many ways because he plays with his feelings and is a player you either love or hate. Many are worried about his temperature and that he can make some silly things that gets him in trouble, but that is a factor that IF a coach can handle it, may be a great thing (think Keane, Cantona, Bruno). Cunha is a lot more then a goal scorer, and he will be very important link for us upfront - especially if him and Bruno can find a bound very fast and come a long. Having Cunha, Bruno, Amad, Mbeumo and Gykerös in our starting eleven when the PL starts would and SHOULD give ANY team in league problems and we should not be leaving many games without scoring.
Mbeumo CAM/WINGBACK - 60m - Great signing, scored 20 goals and had 9 assist for Brentford, if we can start being the team we should be and get our sh/it together and play as good at the pitch as our starting eleven will look like, then there is no reason he should do any worse for us. He has the speed, can score with both feet, is a good dribbler, high football IQ and is hard working - just not sure he should play in the number 10 role and Amad winger, i would switch that around
Gykerös ST 60m - His scoring and assist record are out of this world these last 2 seasons, and we should not expect the same numbers in the PL but we should hopefully be able to get 20-25 goals "at least" with all these great players surrounding him upfront + Bruno from CM and our wing backs. The pressure will be huge but he has shown that he is proven goal scorer and that he can score all kinds of goals both for Sporting and the Swedish nation team
Mile Svilar GK 20m - This could be a steal, they dont want to pay him £3m per year, but he has 2 years left on his contract but Roma would let him go for 25m euros - he has impressed a lot this year, he has showcased sharp reflexes, strong distribution, and composure under pressure, have made him an attractive prospect. And he is only 25 years old (26 in august)
Carlos Baleba CM 80m - This 21 year old diamond is one we should not let another club get next summer since all other teams that have the money to pay for him are more in for players in other positions and gives us a chance to get him this summer. He is a defensive monster who can cover a lot of ground, he is among the best already in the league in progressive carries, possession regains per 90 minutes and interceptions. Whats even more impressive is that he is also very intelligent going forward and making great "easy" but very important passes to offensive players and he scored 3 goals and had 1 assist last season.
Jonathan David 0m - Should be a no brainer, he is not demanding any monster wager, is constantly scoring decent amount of goals and assists, is a hard working forward who can press very good and would be good back up to Gykerös if we sell Höjlund and I dont see Zirkzee as number 9
Total = 240m
That would mean that we still have our whole reported budget of 80-100m left. We have no cover for Dorgu on the left and my suggestion would be Miguel Gutiérrez, he is still young, 24 years in July and is good going forward (had 2 goals and 6 assists) playing LB for Girona. He is valued around 25m.
-----------------------------Svilar
------------------Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven
------Mbeumo - Baleba - Bruno - Dorgu
----------------------Amad - Cunha
---------------------------Gykerös
I know that the starting back line will probably involve Maguire and one of Mazraoui or Shaw, but i hope that at the end of season this back line is the one the has taken 1-2-3 steps (all players) and are the one for the future, there is so much potential there, I really hope De Ligt is picking up what makes Maguire so important for us and that speed in the central position is not so important if you play your cards right. And he has the potential, he showed it the last months, but we need him to stay fit as well and take back the leadership in him he had when he first came up as teenager in Ajax - I still believe that he has 20-30% more in him if he just finds a surrounding that believes in him and that he believes it himself.
Yoro showed already as teenager his potential and Heaven, even thought he didnt play much, is huge talent that we grabbed almost for free from Arsenal, which is just insane to be honest.
Amad maybe the one who will start at the wing back position and Mbeumo behind the striker, even though i would prefer Amad as close to goal as possible. The boy showed this season how skilled he is in that area and how important he is for us, even in games when we did not perform, he was always a threat and he had always 2-3 guys on him which opened a lot space for others but unfortunate we didnt have anyone to score the chances he or his presence created.
And our offense, with the skills that Amad, Mbuemo, Bruno, Cunha, Gykerös have, should be enough to almost double our goals in the PL next season. I am to tired to count how many goals we will add if get Mbuemo + Gykerös over the line, togheter with signing of Cunha and a Amad that will come in to season as starter that we now know how to use in the best way. But it is over like 20 (Mbuemo), 19 (Cunha) and like 38 from Gykerös in the league only. That alone is 77 goals... 77 goals in 3 players.
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This is a interesting watch.
Won't spoil it with names of recommended purchases, but it's 2 x goalies, a backup LWB and a backup RWB. 2 x CMs as backups and a striker (who isn't Gyokeres).
It's a interesting video from Statman Dave. Especially as a few players mentioned who I never would have considered.
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jamesjimmybyrondean
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With Sancho returning, Rashford and Barca playing funny games, Casemiro having no Saudi interest for a while now, I’m a bit cynical with the money we make from sales, so im not expecting us to spend 200m plus on new players.Squad needs a lot of fixing and we’re spending big on attack
L10 - Cunha done deal already. 62m
R10 - Mbeumo looking likely as well. Doubt we go over the Cunha price. 60m
Striker - Unless we can get Gyokeres here, I’m not sold on spending much money on any of the other options. I’d take Goncalo Ramos on a loan deal. He’s hardworking, decent scoring stats and links up play well which could help with Cunha and Mbeumo. 5m loan fee
DM - It’s looking likely Bruno plays deeper next season and I don’t think we have the right partner for him. Ugarte and Casemiro often jumps into tackles which can leave us exposed and can be slow to cover space. We need a DM that’s strong in the duels and athletic enough to cover large spaces. I like the look of Anton Stach and think he fits this description. Can also play CB which is a bonus. 20m
LWB - Amorim already spoke of the need for having wingers as wingbacks. I like Dorgu but he’s still very raw in the final third and doesn’t create as much of a threat when compared to Amad on the right side. Yan Diomande from Leganes I think can replicate that threat from Amad. He’s a winger that’s also played Lwb so should be accustomed to the role. With the likely sale of Garnacho and Rashford, I’m also not comfortable with the lack of left wingers in the team, in case we go back to a back four formation in the future. 5m
GK - Onana is too error prone and has cost us some games. Not sure if he can be sold, but regardless, he needs competition. Can’t say I’ve watched much of Lammens but he seems highly rated by our scouts and wouldn’t cost a lot. 20m
Cunha - 62m
Mbeumo - 60m
Ramos - 5m loan fee
Anton Stach - 20m
Diomande - 5m
Lammens - 20m
Total - 172m
Ramos
Cunha Mbeumo
Dorgu Fernandes Stach Amad
Yoro Maguire De Ligt
Lammens
L10 - Cunha done deal already. 62m
R10 - Mbeumo looking likely as well. Doubt we go over the Cunha price. 60m
Striker - Unless we can get Gyokeres here, I’m not sold on spending much money on any of the other options. I’d take Goncalo Ramos on a loan deal. He’s hardworking, decent scoring stats and links up play well which could help with Cunha and Mbeumo. 5m loan fee
DM - It’s looking likely Bruno plays deeper next season and I don’t think we have the right partner for him. Ugarte and Casemiro often jumps into tackles which can leave us exposed and can be slow to cover space. We need a DM that’s strong in the duels and athletic enough to cover large spaces. I like the look of Anton Stach and think he fits this description. Can also play CB which is a bonus. 20m
LWB - Amorim already spoke of the need for having wingers as wingbacks. I like Dorgu but he’s still very raw in the final third and doesn’t create as much of a threat when compared to Amad on the right side. Yan Diomande from Leganes I think can replicate that threat from Amad. He’s a winger that’s also played Lwb so should be accustomed to the role. With the likely sale of Garnacho and Rashford, I’m also not comfortable with the lack of left wingers in the team, in case we go back to a back four formation in the future. 5m
GK - Onana is too error prone and has cost us some games. Not sure if he can be sold, but regardless, he needs competition. Can’t say I’ve watched much of Lammens but he seems highly rated by our scouts and wouldn’t cost a lot. 20m
Cunha - 62m
Mbeumo - 60m
Ramos - 5m loan fee
Anton Stach - 20m
Diomande - 5m
Lammens - 20m
Total - 172m
Ramos
Cunha Mbeumo
Dorgu Fernandes Stach Amad
Yoro Maguire De Ligt
Lammens
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Why would you buy Mbeumo who scored 20 goals last season and then shunt him to RWB?Out:
Sancho 25m - No comments needed
Rashford 40m - No comments needed
Onana 25m - Not only the many easy goals, the huge mistakes and him not showing the aerial dominance - but also the main reason we bought him for, his ability to play as "modern libero GK" has not be seen at all to be honest and our defenders have lost the trust in him
Garnacho 55m - Well, the last match and the final against Tottenham said it all
Höjlund 45m - Simply not good enough and we dont have time for him to MAYBE one year explode and start scoring goals
Antony 30m - I can still see him given one more year if we can get him to play wing back but if the right offers comes in, i believe we will let him go though
Casemiro 20m - If we can get 20m for him, we should sell him even though he was amazing last 2 months in Europa League, but he was still struggling in the PL and this year we dont have any CL/EPL/ECL to think about and with Bruno staying and us bringing in both Cunha and Mbuemo (and having Amad and Zirkzee) playing in the 10s behind our striker, I believe we will see Bruno in a deeper role with little more freedom then the other CM going forward but Casemiro would not be able to cover the ground behind him and that is where we need to add one more CM to give Ugarte competition
Profit from sales (this is only extra money, nothing we should count on):
Elanga 50m to Newcastle - 35m profit for Nottingham and we are reported to have anywhere from 25-40% so lets say 30% which is around 12m
Greenwood is valued around 50m and 40% are mentioned here which would mean around 14m
Total: 240m (+12+14=266m)
In:
Cunha CAM 62.5 - in three payments so only 21m affects us this summer - This could be our new "Bruno" when it comes to a player who will fan favorite in many ways because he plays with his feelings and is a player you either love or hate. Many are worried about his temperature and that he can make some silly things that gets him in trouble, but that is a factor that IF a coach can handle it, may be a great thing (think Keane, Cantona, Bruno). Cunha is a lot more then a goal scorer, and he will be very important link for us upfront - especially if him and Bruno can find a bound very fast and come a long. Having Cunha, Bruno, Amad, Mbeumo and Gykerös in our starting eleven when the PL starts would and SHOULD give ANY team in league problems and we should not be leaving many games without scoring.
Mbeumo CAM/WINGBACK - 60m - Great signing, scored 20 goals and had 9 assist for Brentford, if we can start being the team we should be and get our sh/it together and play as good at the pitch as our starting eleven will look like, then there is no reason he should do any worse for us. He has the speed, can score with both feet, is a good dribbler, high football IQ and is hard working - just not sure he should play in the number 10 role and Amad winger, i would switch that around
Gykerös ST 60m - His scoring and assist record are out of this world these last 2 seasons, and we should not expect the same numbers in the PL but we should hopefully be able to get 20-25 goals "at least" with all these great players surrounding him upfront + Bruno from CM and our wing backs. The pressure will be huge but he has shown that he is proven goal scorer and that he can score all kinds of goals both for Sporting and the Swedish nation team
Mile Svilar GK 20m - This could be a steal, they dont want to pay him £3m per year, but he has 2 years left on his contract but Roma would let him go for 25m euros - he has impressed a lot this year, he has showcased sharp reflexes, strong distribution, and composure under pressure, have made him an attractive prospect. And he is only 25 years old (26 in august)
Carlos Baleba CM 80m - This 21 year old diamond is one we should not let another club get next summer since all other teams that have the money to pay for him are more in for players in other positions and gives us a chance to get him this summer. He is a defensive monster who can cover a lot of ground, he is among the best already in the league in progressive carries, possession regains per 90 minutes and interceptions. Whats even more impressive is that he is also very intelligent going forward and making great "easy" but very important passes to offensive players and he scored 3 goals and had 1 assist last season.
Jonathan David 0m - Should be a no brainer, he is not demanding any monster wager, is constantly scoring decent amount of goals and assists, is a hard working forward who can press very good and would be good back up to Gykerös if we sell Höjlund and I dont see Zirkzee as number 9
Total = 240m
That would mean that we still have our whole reported budget of 80-100m left. We have no cover for Dorgu on the left and my suggestion would be Miguel Gutiérrez, he is still young, 24 years in July and is good going forward (had 2 goals and 6 assists) playing LB for Girona. He is valued around 25m.
-----------------------------Svilar
------------------Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven
------Mbeumo - Baleba - Bruno - Dorgu
----------------------Amad - Cunha
---------------------------Gykerös
I know that the starting back line will probably involve Maguire and one of Mazraoui or Shaw, but i hope that at the end of season this back line is the one the has taken 1-2-3 steps (all players) and are the one for the future, there is so much potential there, I really hope De Ligt is picking up what makes Maguire so important for us and that speed in the central position is not so important if you play your cards right. And he has the potential, he showed it the last months, but we need him to stay fit as well and take back the leadership in him he had when he first came up as teenager in Ajax - I still believe that he has 20-30% more in him if he just finds a surrounding that believes in him and that he believes it himself.
Yoro showed already as teenager his potential and Heaven, even thought he didnt play much, is huge talent that we grabbed almost for free from Arsenal, which is just insane to be honest.
Amad maybe the one who will start at the wing back position and Mbeumo behind the striker, even though i would prefer Amad as close to goal as possible. The boy showed this season how skilled he is in that area and how important he is for us, even in games when we did not perform, he was always a threat and he had always 2-3 guys on him which opened a lot space for others but unfortunate we didnt have anyone to score the chances he or his presence created.
And our offense, with the skills that Amad, Mbuemo, Bruno, Cunha, Gykerös have, should be enough to almost double our goals in the PL next season. I am to tired to count how many goals we will add if get Mbuemo + Gykerös over the line, togheter with signing of Cunha and a Amad that will come in to season as starter that we now know how to use in the best way. But it is over like 20 (Mbuemo), 19 (Cunha) and like 38 from Gykerös in the league only. That alone is 77 goals... 77 goals in 3 players.
I get you’re a fan of Amad but he’s not producing the same level of goals and we need goals
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This is a interesting watch.
Won't spoil it with names of recommended purchases, but it's 2 x goalies, a backup LWB and a backup RWB. 2 x CMs as backups and a striker (who isn't Gyokeres).
It's a interesting video from Statman Dave. Especially as a few players mentioned who I never would have considered.
I used to like Statman Dave but he does have some odd shouts. I also won’t spoil the video for people, but he describes a certain young English player as “generational” which is simply ludicrous.
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I would love Baleba but I'd be skeptical Brighton let him go for 80mn if Caicedo/Rice went for £100mn. I think he's at least in that class.Out:
Sancho 25m - No comments needed
Rashford 40m - No comments needed
Onana 25m - Not only the many easy goals, the huge mistakes and him not showing the aerial dominance - but also the main reason we bought him for, his ability to play as "modern libero GK" has not be seen at all to be honest and our defenders have lost the trust in him
Garnacho 55m - Well, the last match and the final against Tottenham said it all
Höjlund 45m - Simply not good enough and we dont have time for him to MAYBE one year explode and start scoring goals
Antony 30m - I can still see him given one more year if we can get him to play wing back but if the right offers comes in, i believe we will let him go though
Casemiro 20m - If we can get 20m for him, we should sell him even though he was amazing last 2 months in Europa League, but he was still struggling in the PL and this year we dont have any CL/EPL/ECL to think about and with Bruno staying and us bringing in both Cunha and Mbuemo (and having Amad and Zirkzee) playing in the 10s behind our striker, I believe we will see Bruno in a deeper role with little more freedom then the other CM going forward but Casemiro would not be able to cover the ground behind him and that is where we need to add one more CM to give Ugarte competition
Profit from sales (this is only extra money, nothing we should count on):
Elanga 50m to Newcastle - 35m profit for Nottingham and we are reported to have anywhere from 25-40% so lets say 30% which is around 12m
Greenwood is valued around 50m and 40% are mentioned here which would mean around 14m
Total: 240m (+12+14=266m)
In:
Cunha CAM 62.5 - in three payments so only 21m affects us this summer - This could be our new "Bruno" when it comes to a player who will fan favorite in many ways because he plays with his feelings and is a player you either love or hate. Many are worried about his temperature and that he can make some silly things that gets him in trouble, but that is a factor that IF a coach can handle it, may be a great thing (think Keane, Cantona, Bruno). Cunha is a lot more then a goal scorer, and he will be very important link for us upfront - especially if him and Bruno can find a bound very fast and come a long. Having Cunha, Bruno, Amad, Mbeumo and Gykerös in our starting eleven when the PL starts would and SHOULD give ANY team in league problems and we should not be leaving many games without scoring.
Mbeumo CAM/WINGBACK - 60m - Great signing, scored 20 goals and had 9 assist for Brentford, if we can start being the team we should be and get our sh/it together and play as good at the pitch as our starting eleven will look like, then there is no reason he should do any worse for us. He has the speed, can score with both feet, is a good dribbler, high football IQ and is hard working - just not sure he should play in the number 10 role and Amad winger, i would switch that around
Gykerös ST 60m - His scoring and assist record are out of this world these last 2 seasons, and we should not expect the same numbers in the PL but we should hopefully be able to get 20-25 goals "at least" with all these great players surrounding him upfront + Bruno from CM and our wing backs. The pressure will be huge but he has shown that he is proven goal scorer and that he can score all kinds of goals both for Sporting and the Swedish nation team
Mile Svilar GK 20m - This could be a steal, they dont want to pay him £3m per year, but he has 2 years left on his contract but Roma would let him go for 25m euros - he has impressed a lot this year, he has showcased sharp reflexes, strong distribution, and composure under pressure, have made him an attractive prospect. And he is only 25 years old (26 in august)
Carlos Baleba CM 80m - This 21 year old diamond is one we should not let another club get next summer since all other teams that have the money to pay for him are more in for players in other positions and gives us a chance to get him this summer. He is a defensive monster who can cover a lot of ground, he is among the best already in the league in progressive carries, possession regains per 90 minutes and interceptions. Whats even more impressive is that he is also very intelligent going forward and making great "easy" but very important passes to offensive players and he scored 3 goals and had 1 assist last season.
Jonathan David 0m - Should be a no brainer, he is not demanding any monster wager, is constantly scoring decent amount of goals and assists, is a hard working forward who can press very good and would be good back up to Gykerös if we sell Höjlund and I dont see Zirkzee as number 9
Total = 240m
That would mean that we still have our whole reported budget of 80-100m left. We have no cover for Dorgu on the left and my suggestion would be Miguel Gutiérrez, he is still young, 24 years in July and is good going forward (had 2 goals and 6 assists) playing LB for Girona. He is valued around 25m.
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------------------Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven
------Mbeumo - Baleba - Bruno - Dorgu
----------------------Amad - Cunha
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I know that the starting back line will probably involve Maguire and one of Mazraoui or Shaw, but i hope that at the end of season this back line is the one the has taken 1-2-3 steps (all players) and are the one for the future, there is so much potential there, I really hope De Ligt is picking up what makes Maguire so important for us and that speed in the central position is not so important if you play your cards right. And he has the potential, he showed it the last months, but we need him to stay fit as well and take back the leadership in him he had when he first came up as teenager in Ajax - I still believe that he has 20-30% more in him if he just finds a surrounding that believes in him and that he believes it himself.
Yoro showed already as teenager his potential and Heaven, even thought he didnt play much, is huge talent that we grabbed almost for free from Arsenal, which is just insane to be honest.
Amad maybe the one who will start at the wing back position and Mbeumo behind the striker, even though i would prefer Amad as close to goal as possible. The boy showed this season how skilled he is in that area and how important he is for us, even in games when we did not perform, he was always a threat and he had always 2-3 guys on him which opened a lot space for others but unfortunate we didnt have anyone to score the chances he or his presence created.
And our offense, with the skills that Amad, Mbuemo, Bruno, Cunha, Gykerös have, should be enough to almost double our goals in the PL next season. I am to tired to count how many goals we will add if get Mbuemo + Gykerös over the line, togheter with signing of Cunha and a Amad that will come in to season as starter that we now know how to use in the best way. But it is over like 20 (Mbuemo), 19 (Cunha) and like 38 from Gykerös in the league only. That alone is 77 goals... 77 goals in 3 players.
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I would probably keep Amad at WB myself but any advantage in goalscoring Mbeumo has over Amad on a per 90 basis is down to penalties. Tiny difference once pens are stripped out and then when you factor in Mbeumo overshooting his xG this year and Amad undershooting his, the argument is that Amad will be a better goalscorer going forward. On the other hand, playing WB doesn't seem to have dented Amad's production too much.Why would you buy Mbeumo who scored 20 goals last season and then shunt him to RWB?
I get you’re a fan of Amad but he’s not producing the same level of goals and we need goals
My understanding is 5 of those 20 were penalties. 15 non penalty goals is still excellent or better than our lot (except Bruno) have been producing.I would probably keep Amad at WB myself but any advantage in goalscoring Mbeumo has over Amad on a per 90 basis is down to penalties. Tiny difference once pens are stripped out and then when you factor in Mbeumo overshooting his xG this year and Amad undershooting his, the argument is that Amad will be a better goalscorer going forward. On the other hand, playing WB doesn't seem to have dented Amad's production too much.
Time will tell if that is a purple patch season or if that’s closer to his new norm.
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Fairly outside the box thinking playing Lautaro Martinez as our back up LCB.I used to like Statman Dave but he does have some odd shouts. I also won’t spoil the video for people, but he describes a certain young English player as “generational” which is simply ludicrous.
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15 goals is double his non penalty xG for last season (7.5). No player in history has sustained that kind of overperformance over time. He's a very good player so hopefully he can improve his expected goal chances at United if the likes of Bruno can give him the sorts of chances Garna was missing on the regular last season.My understanding is 5 of those 20 were penalties. 15 non penalty goals is still excellent or better than our lot (except Bruno) have been producing.
Time will tell if that is a purple patch season or if that’s closer to his new norm.
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That is a weird one as he's not the only one to say that. Some people see a young Gareth Bale in him. I think it's still too early. If he was that good he would have started more games.I used to like Statman Dave but he does have some odd shouts. I also won’t spoil the video for people, but he describes a certain young English player as “generational” which is simply ludicrous.
I've probably given it away with the Gareth Bale comparison.
I did enjoy the selection of players, to be frank I'd never heard of. Made a change from the usual suspects that are suggested.
His suggestion of keeper got alot of comments.its easy to forget how a commanding presence in a keeper can fill a defence with confidence..
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Should be swooping this. He fits the profile we need.
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Should be swooping this. He fits the profile we need.
Agreed. Could make it up for missing out on his brother
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Why would you buy Mbeumo who scored 20 goals last season and then shunt him to RWB?
I get you’re a fan of Amad but he’s not producing the same level of goals and we need goals
To be honest, I just cant see Amad having the physic for the wing back position and his explosive first 3-4-5 steps that he uses a lot to get by the defender would take a huge turn because of his fatigue after 60-65 min running up and down. I am also not sure his defending is near good enough and i believe people will be attacking that side every chance they get - which will make him even more useless going forward since he will be forced to play very deep close to the RCB.
Not saying the Mbeumo wont have the same problem and to be honest, he was on my list mostly because he seems to be a "HERE WE GO" already, I am not sure I would have signed him now that we got Cunha, have Bruno staying and after have seen what Amad gives us as an option at the same position. I get that its good to have 4 guys on 2 positions but not the year where we have no European football at all and 2 of the guys will cover more then 100% of our budget (62.5+60=122.5m) if we dont count outgoing sales.
My main focus would be to get Baleba, I would even pay 100m for him if needed. He is a special talent, 21 years old and we should not miss the chance while we still have it - like we did with Kante for example - and i rate Baleba even higher.
Mbeumo is great signing, but a luxury one and one we should have be doing if we won the EPL and got CL football. But I guess Amorin knows why he feels we need Cunha, Mbeumo, Amad, Bruno and also Zirkzee all being best suited for the number "10" position in this system (some would even claim Mainoo plays best closer to the goal then next to example Ugarte in a 2-man CM.
While we have no "real" right wing back and only 1 left, that has not impressed TOO much so far, but he is showing that potential, is only 20y and has only been here 6 months, and maybe the 6 worst months in Uniteds last 30 years. I was sure we were signing Frimpong at least, and I am still hoping for Gutierrez from Girona, but i cant come up with any realistic RWB.
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15 goals is double his non penalty xG for last season (7.5). No player in history has sustained that kind of overperformance over time. He's a very good player so hopefully he can improve his expected goal chances at United if the likes of Bruno can give him the sorts of chances Garna was missing on the regular last season.
Didn’t know this xG stuff has existed since Pele’s era.
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How the fk did Brighton manage to become the gold standard of football transfers? I swear, every player they sell, everyone adds 20 plus mill to. Baleba would not go for over 100 mill at any other club. Maybe Real Madrid but definitely no smaller club. Rice was 24, with 4 plus seasons in the Prem and an England international. Baleba has 2 seasons in the Prem. He is not worth 100 mill yet. Is he worth the same as Wirtz? Rodrygo was quoted as 80/90. Gykores/Osihmen 60. Is he worth double Zubimendi? Ridiculous. Brighton has acquired an aura from Chelsea, giving them everything they want. The gravy train can't last forever. I think they will find other clubs less willing to give them record transfers for their playersI would love Baleba but I'd be skeptical Brighton let him go for 80mn if Caicedo/Rice went for £100mn. I think he's at least in that class.
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Out:
Sancho 25m - No comments needed
Rashford 40m - No comments needed
Onana 25m - Not only the many easy goals, the huge mistakes and him not showing the aerial dominance - but also the main reason we bought him for, his ability to play as "modern libero GK" has not be seen at all to be honest and our defenders have lost the trust in him
I didn't realize Sancho has 1 year left on his deal. No one is buying him--- he wants his full wage which no one wants to pay, so he is happy to collect his money and leave on a free. At this point, United would take $5mm for Sancho-- that $5mm plus the $15mm in wages is a win for United. No one is going to pay anything near 25mm for Onana.
Rashford and his agent brother are delusional, so it's going to be difficult for him to move. Although did I hear that Rashford added Zahavi as his other "agent?" If so, having a professional like Zahavi could help facilitate a move to another club-- ie Barcelona--- but Barcelona won't pay 40mm for Rashford.
Right now, at this point, I'm resigned to the fact that Garnacho and probably Antony (who rebuilt a little of his value,) will be the only 2 actually sold this summer. My concern is Sancho goes out on loan, Rashford goes out on loan to Barca and Rasmus goes out on loan with an option to buy. So not much money coming in for the club this year.
Good news-- by 2027, Casemiro, Maguire, Sancho, Shaw, Martinez will all be off the books, with the former 3 being gone next summer. It's a slow, painful process to get bad contracts off of the books- but United's wage bill be looking better each year as bad contracts expire and the fact that Ineos are implementing a sensible wage structure. This will allow them to spend more even if United still suck in 2 years.
That said-- I agree with you-- I would love to get Baleba--but I can't see the club spending 100mm that it would take to get him. They would rather spend 100mm on 3-4 young players hoping one of them turns into the next 100mm player. ie, someone like Amadou Kone at 20mm.
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You are absolutely right, but it is how it is...How the fk did Brighton manage to become the gold standard of football transfers? I swear, every player they sell, everyone adds 20 plus mill to. Baleba would not go for over 100 mill at any other club. Maybe Real Madrid but definitely no smaller club. Rice was 24, with 4 plus seasons in the Prem and an England international. Baleba has 2 seasons in the Prem. He is not worth 100 mill yet. Is he worth the same as Wirtz? Rodrygo was quoted as 80/90. Gykores/Osihmen 60. Is he worth double Zubimendi? Ridiculous. Brighton has acquired an aura from Chelsea, giving them everything they want. The gravy train can't last forever. I think they will find other clubs less willing to give them record transfers for their players
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How the fk did Brighton manage to become the gold standard of football transfers? I swear, every player they sell, everyone adds 20 plus mill to. Baleba would not go for over 100 mill at any other club. Maybe Real Madrid but definitely no smaller club. Rice was 24, with 4 plus seasons in the Prem and an England international. Baleba has 2 seasons in the Prem. He is not worth 100 mill yet. Is he worth the same as Wirtz? Rodrygo was quoted as 80/90. Gykores/Osihmen 60. Is he worth double Zubimendi? Ridiculous. Brighton has acquired an aura from Chelsea, giving them everything they want. The gravy train can't last forever. I think they will find other clubs less willing to give them record transfers for their players
Well, we are one of the biggest reasons why the market locks like this, and now it bites us in the back.
But for me, Baleba is a player worth paying £70-80m for this summer while other big clubs are spending money on other positions. Chelsea have Caicedo, Arsenal Rice, Liverpool wont afford both him and Wirtz (who they will have to pay £125m+ bonuses according to german press), City have Rodri and other clubs cant afford him (maybe Real Madrid but they have other targets, only Bayern could put up a fight if it only comes to money since they are not happy with Paulinho and want to sell him but i dont believe that he will join them over staying in the PL).
But again, I get your point and you are absolutely 100% right about your point - problem is not only Brighton though, but all clubs when they smell that a big club, like us, are desperat and will pay whatever it takes to get back to the glory days, even if it has not worked out so good for us the last decade.
Baleba is great player already now with even higher potential and offers exactly everything we need in one of the CM positions behind our front 3.
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I case we do not get Victor Gyokeres and Carlos Baleba, here is my shopping window with players qualities:
Buying central Defense: Cristhian Mosquera: Physical and ball carrying
Buying wingback: Roger Fernandes: left foot dribbling bursting
Buying Midfield: Lamine Camara: Dribbling, long passing scoring
Djaoui Cisse: Physical defensive ball carrying, long passing
Hayden Hackney: Press resistance ball progressing passy,
José dos Santos Lourenço da Silva Éderson: Recuperation rapid ball progressing and scoring
Kekhren Thuram: Recuperating rapid progressing and scoring
Buying striker: Nick Woltemade: Striker dribbling from deep position
Jean-Philippe Mateta: Physicality, strong shot and aerial prowess
Buying central Defense: Cristhian Mosquera: Physical and ball carrying
Buying wingback: Roger Fernandes: left foot dribbling bursting
Buying Midfield: Lamine Camara: Dribbling, long passing scoring
Djaoui Cisse: Physical defensive ball carrying, long passing
Hayden Hackney: Press resistance ball progressing passy,
José dos Santos Lourenço da Silva Éderson: Recuperation rapid ball progressing and scoring
Kekhren Thuram: Recuperating rapid progressing and scoring
Buying striker: Nick Woltemade: Striker dribbling from deep position
Jean-Philippe Mateta: Physicality, strong shot and aerial prowess
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Because Liverpool and Chelsea got into a bidding war for Caicedo and the amount of money earned by even mid table premier leagues is such that they're not really under any pressure to sell so you need to pay them more.How the fk did Brighton manage to become the gold standard of football transfers? I swear, every player they sell, everyone adds 20 plus mill to. Baleba would not go for over 100 mill at any other club. Maybe Real Madrid but definitely no smaller club. Rice was 24, with 4 plus seasons in the Prem and an England international. Baleba has 2 seasons in the Prem. He is not worth 100 mill yet. Is he worth the same as Wirtz? Rodrygo was quoted as 80/90. Gykores/Osihmen 60. Is he worth double Zubimendi? Ridiculous. Brighton has acquired an aura from Chelsea, giving them everything they want. The gravy train can't last forever. I think they will find other clubs less willing to give them record transfers for their players
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A bit early but I want to name the ideal targets for summer 2026:
CB: Castello Lukeba, 60m or Piero Hincapie, 50m
DM/CM: Carlos Baleba, 100m, Adam Wharton, 80m or Hugo Larsson, 50m
CB: Castello Lukeba, 60m or Piero Hincapie, 50m
DM/CM: Carlos Baleba, 100m, Adam Wharton, 80m or Hugo Larsson, 50m
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Who would be your wing back targets?A bit early but I want to name the ideal targets for summer 2026:
CB: Castello Lukeba, 60m or Piero Hincapie, 50m
DM/CM: Carlos Baleba, 100m, Adam Wharton, 80m or Hugo Larsson, 50m
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Depends on Dorgus second season, Amad taking over the RWB position or not, and whether we can ship off Dalot.Who would be your wing back targets?
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I find these players interesting to keep an eye on:Who would be your wing back targets?
LB/LWB: Destiny Udogie (Spurs), Hugo Bueno (Feyenoord, on loan from Wolverhampton)
RB/RWB: Michael Kayode (Brentford), Ivan Fresneda (Sporting), Martim Fernandes (Porto)
Another interesting LCB: Jorrel Hato (Ajax)
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If things dont work out with Bruno in a 2 man midfield next season, then I'm afarid he will have to be shown the door. Javi Guerra of Valencia and Adam Wharton of C. Palace would be a fine midfield pair.
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Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven
Amad - Bruno - Kamara - Dorgu
Mbeumo --- Cunha
Gyokeres
What about Wissa? He scored 19 goals last season in 35 games, and 12 goals the season before in 34 games. He seems to stay fit consistently and is developing well as a striker in the Premier League. He is 28 and should be less expensive than Gyokeres or Sesko.
The only challenge is that with Mbuemo’s sale, it’s highly unlikely they’ll let both of their top goal scorers leave in the same window.
The only challenge is that with Mbuemo’s sale, it’s highly unlikely they’ll let both of their top goal scorers leave in the same window.
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Presume that's Kamara at Villa, gutted we didn't sign him when available on a free. My only worry with Milinkovic-Savic is he parries into danger area
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Yoro - De Ligt - Heaven
Amad - Bruno - Kamara - Dorgu
Mbeumo --- Cunha
Gyokeres
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Mazroui - De Ligt - Yoro
Amad - Bruno - Kamara - Hernandez
Mbeumo --- Cunha
Osihmen
I have no idea why we dont go for Theo when Athleti are bidding 23m euros for him. Yes, his form hasn't been great last year, but at £ 20m, he's worth the risk. Same as Maignan. 20-30 mill. 50 ish mill for 2 first team french internationals is a bargain. Also think we can get Osihmen cheaper than Gykores and I think he will suit us better. Might have to drop Kamara/midfielder and put up with a sht midfield for a year and then sort it out next season. Or prey Ugarte/Bruno comes good but I wont hold my breath.Mazroui - De Ligt - Yoro
Amad - Bruno - Kamara - Hernandez
Mbeumo --- Cunha
Osihmen
*We probably need a good cheap back up keeper as well
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We don't even have the money to sign a CF currently. Even with sales I doubt we could afford all these players. but the two Milan lads I would take nonethelessMaignanI have no idea why we dont go for Theo when Athleti are bidding 23m euros for him. Yes, his form hasn't been great last year, but at £ 20m, he's worth the risk. Same as Maignan. 20-30 mill. 50 ish mill for 2 first team french internationals is a bargain. Also think we can get Osihmen cheaper than Gykores and I think he will suit us better. Might have to drop Kamara/midfielder and put up with a sht midfield for a year and then sort it out next season. Or prey Ugarte/Bruno comes good but I wont hold my breath.
Mazroui - De Ligt - Yoro
Amad - Bruno - Kamara - Hernandez
Mbeumo --- Cunha
Osihmen
*We probably need a good cheap back up keeper as well
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If we miss out on Mbeumo and want a 10, winger, RWB hybrid we should definitely take a look at Matias Soule.
We were said to be scouting him in the past and he's coming off a good season with Roma where he was second in their POTS voting (after Svilar)
We were said to be scouting him in the past and he's coming off a good season with Roma where he was second in their POTS voting (after Svilar)
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If we miss out on Mbeumo and want a 10, winger, RWB hybrid we should definitely take a look at Matias Soule.
We were said to be scouting him in the past and he's coming off a good season with Roma where he was second in their POTS voting (after Svilar)
He was highly rated at Juve. Lot of their fans were gutted to see him leave like Huijsen. Not sure how much better he is than Amad.
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Id be happy with a top class CM, RF and ST this season that's it, we can wait for the GK another window
Really hoping we can complete Mbeumo soon and get the #9 and spend the reason of the window getting players out and getting the CM in
Really hoping we can complete Mbeumo soon and get the #9 and spend the reason of the window getting players out and getting the CM in
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Who would be your top class CM, in terms of RF then obviously Mbeumo and ST despite unrealistic is OsimhenId be happy with a top class CM, RF and ST this season that's it, we can wait for the GK another window
Really hoping we can complete Mbeumo soon and get the #9 and spend the reason of the window getting players out and getting the CM in
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Who would be your top class CM, in terms of RF then obviously Mbeumo and ST despite unrealistic is Osimhen
CM the jury is out, RF Mbeumo and we all know the Striker will end up being Gyokeres, I wouldn't be against Osimhen.
We ideally need a CM that's around the age of 25 that can perform every week, but I think there'll be a long list of targets.
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Do you think Larsson or Hackney too inexperienced. I think it's safe to say Wharton or Baleba are way out of our budget for this summer.CM the jury is out, RF Mbeumo and we all know the Striker will end up being Gyokeres, I wouldn't be against Osimhen.
We ideally need a CM that's around the age of 25 that can perform every week, but I think there'll be a long list of targets.
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Do you think Larsson or Hackney too inexperienced. I think it's safe to say Wharton or Baleba are way out of our budget for this summer.
We need someone who can put in a 8/10 performance each week, and make us feel like the defense is safe.
If we are playing 2 wingbacks that have license to bomb forward we need that player to screen the back.
I don't think we have had that for a long time, Casemiro although his experience is important he doesn't have the legs for the prem, Ugarte is good but not physical enough.
Ugarte was in the 10th percentile for progressive passes which is beyond poor, and his carries just aren't that great for us to consider him IMO good for a year or two though.
Casemiro ironically has pretty much everything we need defensively and being progressive, but I don't think he can do it all season, maybe with a game a season it's possible but I think we need a younger age profile in there that we can bed in next season.
Ironically Zubamendi is close to what we would go for, Larsson and Hackney aren't what we need.
I think we need an athlete with high interceptions and tackles, and ideally progressive passes, who can spray passes and perhaps be press resistant and take ons.
Baleba is closer to what we need but I don't think he does enough progressive passing in his fbref.
He is everything else we need though.
If and we know it's the case, Bruno is a CM we need the player next to him like Pirlo at Juventus had Vidal and Pogba, we need a player that does all the dirty work but has the quality to spread the ball and beat a press in addition to that.
We need our wingbacks to attack and have assurances our CM can help screen the back on breaks.
We don't have that and it's a priority over a GK I feel
Realistically we are targeting top 4-6 next year, with our attacking additions and CM and the full squad will take 2-3 seasons to change if we magically have money for a GK in addition great but I feel some players like Sancho just want to get his extortionate salary and will be hard to move
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