What do we still need? Aka The never ending story

What date can we start complaining about lack of transfers?

I'm asking for a friend...

I don't want to...sorry HE doesn't want to make an ass of himself.
 
Ok, PL proven, cheap and athletic. Lets presume CM will get strengthen with someone, cheap. who would that be?

Ndidi has a £8mil release clause at leicester.

Doucoure left everton on a free. are we talking bargain basement reinforcement due to our financial situation?

 
Ok, PL proven, cheap and athletic. Lets presume CM will get strengthen with someone, cheap. who would that be?

Ndidi has a £8mil release clause at leicester.

Doucoure left everton on a free. are we talking bargain basement reinforcement due to our financial situation?


Both seem at least 3 years too late
 
Both seem at least 3 years too late
I was just speculating, though ndidi is 28. Palhinha is 29. If we needed to bring in a sort term athletic CM for a season who is PL proven, they aren't bad shouts.

Doucoure is 32, i didn't realise he was so old.
 
Ok, PL proven, cheap and athletic. Lets presume CM will get strengthen with someone, cheap. who would that be?

Ndidi has a £8mil release clause at leicester.

Doucoure left everton on a free. are we talking bargain basement reinforcement due to our financial situation?


I’d rather suggest Boubakary Soumaré from Leicester. I still think he’s a good player with qualities that could complement Bruno in CM well. He’s composed on the ball, physically capable (fast, tall and strong), disciplined/positionally aware, and could thrive in a better team IMO - especially in a team where he has a defined role and responsibilities, and better teammates.
 
Alejandro Rodriguez could fit what we're doing with signing youth prospects.

He came through Southampton's academy. Been talked about as a big striker talent for a while now. 21 goals in 22 games for England's various youth teams (U15/16/17).

His most recent goals came against Italy a few weeks ago.


Yeah, he actually looked really good for England in the U17s (?) recently. Not a bad shout.
 
Ok, PL proven, cheap and athletic. Lets presume CM will get strengthen with someone, cheap. who would that be?

Ndidi has a £8mil release clause at leicester.

Doucoure left everton on a free. are we talking bargain basement reinforcement due to our financial situation?


Don't think he'd be cheap but Elliot Anderson would otherwise fit the mould. Would prefer Baleba but unless something catastrophic happens to Brighton, he's not going for less than 100mn so can't see us ever being in for him. Anderson mightn't be a whole lot cheaper mind you and Forest don't seem to have any appetite to lose their best players right now.
 
GK, 1-2 WBs, 2 midfirlders, 1 striker. Still a lot to do
My gut feeling is bar a huge offer for Onana we will be looking to find competition for him rather than someone to replace.

Will say it again I fully expect club to utilise internal solutions in the wing back roles (yes I know).

Could only see two midfield signings IF one was a loan like Palhinha/Douglas Luiz and a prospect like Fernandes/Hackney.

Still hoping we can find wage structure to get Osimhen but highly unlikely, mind you also worry about Ekitike going to rival.
 
June 2025. All we need are:
- a new home ground
- new training facilities
- 1 or 2 strikers
- 1 or 2 central midfielders
- 1 or 2 wingbacks
- 1 goalkeeper
- 1 head coach
 
I was just speculating, though ndidi is 28. Palhinha is 29. If we needed to bring in a sort term athletic CM for a season who is PL proven, they aren't bad shouts.

Doucoure is 32, i didn't realise he was so old.

All of them are too old and not good enough all round at both sides of the game.

We should go all out for Adam Wharton.
 
Still hoping we can find wage structure to get Osimhen but highly unlikely, mind you also worry about Ekitike going to rival.
I’m sure I read the other day that he would drop his wage demands to 200k for United.

For an Elite striker at the age of 26, 200k doesn’t seem that bad considering the wages we’ve been throwing out in recent years. Yoro on 140k for example under the new regime.

Think the real issue would be how much Napoli want and I’m sure they paid 65 mil to Lille for him. So I would imagine it’s around a similar value.

I’m not that bothered by either Rasmus or Zirkzee. Think both are probably better than they showed last season and with Cunha, Mbeuno and hopefully wingbacks that know what they are doing I think they will find their way.

However if there is a chance to get Osimhen then do it, if not then I’d rather sort the midfield than get any other striker. Think a midfield fix and a RWB will see us better than a new striker.

Emerson, Onana, Luiz someone like that. Someone with energy that can go both ways so when we mess up our high press we actually have someone who can get back at people and slow them down.

I don’t think we can really wait another year to sort midfield. Should have been the priority in my opinion.
 
Missed the point entirely. It was about finding a very cheap stop gap for a season.

It's never just a cheap stop gap for a season though is it? We'd end up signing them on a three year contract and then being stuck with them until it expired. It's a mistake we've made time and time again.

We should only be signing players that have a long term future at the club. All the names you mentioned are hardly any better than the options we already have. Why add more deadwood for the sake of it?
 
All of them are too old and not good enough all round at both sides of the game.

We should go all out for Adam Wharton.
I think I read something before from one of Liverpool's transfer gurus (Ian Graham or Michael Edwards) where he was saying that these kind of buys that don't really move the needle are what kill you and that you just should save your money until the right player emerges. I wouldn't be touching Ndidi or Palhinha for those reasons and that both are replicas of Ugarte in terms of busy defensively but zero contribution on ball.
 
I think I read something before from one of Liverpool's transfer gurus (Ian Graham or Michael Edwards) where he was saying that these kind of buys that don't really move the needle are what kill you and that you just should save your money until the right player emerges. I wouldn't be touching Ndidi or Palhinha for those reasons and that both are replicas of Ugarte in terms of busy defensively but zero contribution on ball.
We do that a lot as well. Most of our signings are just squad players at best rather than people significantly improving the starting 11
 
Between this summer and next we need another 10, a starting striker, 2 starting quality midfielders, a starting keeper and probably another wb. Still a lot of work to be done and won't be complete this summer, especially with our finances
 
Instead of overpaying for Mbeumo, how about allocating funds to sign BOTH Osimhen and Gyokeres?

GK
Mazraoui-Yoro-Heaven
Fernandes-CM-Cunha
Amad-LW
Osimhen-Gyokeres
 
This makes sense in the very short term. 2 year contract. Also Ghana didn’t qualify for Afcon.
No, it doesn't. We rightly got rid of Mason Greenwood so why would we bring this on ourself unnecessarily. Not to mention that he's lost his legs so we'd be stuck with another Casemiro.
 
No, it doesn't. We rightly got rid of Mason Greenwood so why would we bring this on ourself unnecessarily. Not to mention that he's lost his legs so we'd be stuck with another Casemiro.
Precisely why I wouldn't want to go near him
 
I really feels to me like the fans have no confidence that the manager can develop or improve a player, so we are looking for 15 proven players in their peak all in one or two summers. It is such a stupid strategy it is incredible, but it does feel like the only option strangely.
 
Would anyone not take Partey on a free as seemingly he and Arsenal haven’t been able to agree terms

I know there’s allegations about but he’d instantly improve us
 
Would anyone not take Partey on a free as seemingly he and Arsenal haven’t been able to agree terms

I know there’s allegations about but he’d instantly improve us
You have answered reason why
 
I originally dropped his name here assuming he is 30, but after further looking into it, he is 32 years old, will want longer contract on good money and there is the baggage with the rape.

I doubt he would accept a 2 year performance based contract, where we can use him while he still has legs in him, and we wont be contracted to him for like 3-4 years. The drop off in some PL players performances after they pass 30 is monumental. Not much upside.
 
I originally dropped his name here assuming he is 30, but after further looking into it, he is 32 years old, will want longer contract on good money and there is the baggage with the rape.

I doubt he would accept a 2 year performance based contract, where we can use him while he still has legs in him, and we wont be contracted to him for like 3-4 years. The drop off in some PL players performances after they pass 30 is monumental. Not much upside.
Yeah especially that kind of profile midfielder, just look at someone like De Bruyne to see that
 
Clubs signing players and having concrete links and we are busy resigning heaton and glorifying Evans new role. I know this sounds over exaggerated but it’s getting close to frustrating and “same old same old” again
 
My list included these players as soon as the season finished
Cunha - a must, for the left 10
Mbeumo/kudus - one of the two for the right 10
Semeneyo - as the other wingback with Amad on the other side.
Striker - Gyokeres/Osimhen/Watkins
GK - someone like Martinez/Ter stegen

Cunha is done so is Mbuemo supposedly. The key for me now is Semeneyo. He’ll be a game changer along with Cunha. If we address all these positions ( a long shot I know) then for me, we are going to win the league or the very least would be challenging with one game per week. You can laugh all you want but I genuinely believe that.
 
My list included these players as soon as the season finished
Cunha - a must, for the left 10
Mbeumo/kudus - one of the two for the right 10
Semeneyo - as the other wingback with Amad on the other side.
Striker - Gyokeres/Osimhen/Watkins
GK - someone like Martinez/Ter stegen

Cunha is done so is Mbuemo supposedly. The key for me now is Semeneyo. He’ll be a game changer along with Cunha. If we address all these positions ( a long shot I know) then for me, we are going to win the league or the very least would be challenging with one game per week. You can laugh all you want but I genuinely believe that.
A CM, a CF and a GK are much more imminent than another WB in my opinion
 
I feel like we're going to struggle massively next season. The top clubs have been bolstering squads which were already leagues above ours with multiple new signings while we're only able to bring in one player who was just a case of meeting a release clause.

We've sold nobody and don't look remotely close to doing so. Then we're (possibly due to finances) only able to focus on one deal at a time, while dragging out the Mbeumo deal to the point where Brentford are coming out with statements to try to wring more money out of us.

We should have had back up options ready to go, and we need to be finding creative ways of improving the squad. Swap deals, free transfers, whatever it takes to ensure that we are still in the PL after next season. Currently our squad is weaker than it was when we finished 15th and with very little sign of much happening imminently.

In terms of what we need, I think we know the positions we should be looking to fix. At this point I would be looking to do quick deals that aren't too expensive to bolster the squad and ensure a bedrock for the next few seasons. I would try to make swaps with Juventus maybe, and if we can get these players for decent prices I'd try to go for:

-----------------------------Martinez
--------------Yoro-------De Light-------Heaven
Amad---------D Luiz--------Bruno-----Dorgu
----------------Mbeumo---------Cunha
----------------------------Mateta
 
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Anyone 29-30 years old will be absolutely rinsing us dry for a 3 year contract and at least 200k per week.

If we're that desperate to try and sign them they'll know they can hold us over a barrel.

And unfortunately we've been here before and been well and truely had over...

It would need a wholesale change to how other teams and agents see United. At present they see us as a massive cash cow, begging to get back at the top table of football. So universally everyone we do business with is laughing at us!
 
I feel like we're going to struggle massively next season. The top clubs have been bolstering squads which were already leagues above ours with multiple new signings while we're only able to bring in one player who was just a case of meeting a release clause.

We've sold nobody and don't look remotely close to doing so. Then we're (possibly due to finances) only able to focus on one deal at a time, while dragging out the Mbeumo deal to the point where Brentford are coming out with statements to try to wring more money out of us.

We should have had back up options ready to go, and we need to be finding creative ways of improving the squad. Swap deals, free transfers, whatever it takes to ensure that we are still in the PL after next season. Currently our squad is weaker than it was when we finished 15th and with very little sign of much happening imminently.

In terms of what we need, I think we know the positions we should be looking to fix. At this point I would be looking to do quick deals that aren't too expensive to bolster the squad and ensure a bedrock for the next few seasons. I would try to make swaps with Juventus maybe, and if we can get these players for decent prices I'd try to go for:

-----------------------------Martinez
--------------Yoro-------De Light-------Heaven
Amad---------D Luiz--------Bruno-----Dorgu
----------------Mbeumo---------Cunha
----------------------------Mateta
Agree. It’s looking dismal at the moment, but still time.
We obviously need to sell a couple to afford more than Mbeumo, but it’s looking like any sales will be last minute deals.
I think if we start the season without a new striker and keeper we will struggle again, those were the two key positions for me.
 
I think it’s worth a punt on Ivan Toney, I saw a lot of him playing at Peterborough and when he left there for Brentford I thought United could have took a chance on him, he’s very good at both ends of the pitch, can hold ball up and can help defensively, very good in the air.
The only issue I had with him was picking up silly bookings for dissent.
 
A CM, a CF and a GK are much more imminent than another WB in my opinion
Not for me. Semeneyo as a WB is equally as important as the GK if not more. A injury to Amad and we are back to Dalot and Dorgu again and that’ll be terrible. As for Striker, I truly believe Zirkzee will flourish with Cunha and Mbeumo behind him.
 
I think it’s worth a punt on Ivan Toney, I saw a lot of him playing at Peterborough and when he left there for Brentford I thought United could have took a chance on him, he’s very good at both ends of the pitch, can hold ball up and can help defensively, very good in the air.
The only issue I had with him was picking up silly bookings for dissent.
Knows Mbeumo too so would be no issue with them fitting together as a unit.