Of course we miss the managerial ability of Ferguson, that is a one off. Biggest problem though is we have simple bought really badly. Not just player wise but manager wise as well. Moyes was never the right manager, neither was Mourinho, was always going to end the way it did, his best days were way beind him and he was totally the wrong fit. I actually thought Van Gaal would do well, but of course didnt.My feeling is a bit complicated when I see the topic of this thread. I fell in love with United because this team could always excite me and get results even with some mediocre players. We didn't have the money and attractiveness to buy and keep the top players in the world but we managed to remain competitive in the league and the Champions League. Ferguson could always somehow bring out 200% of his players and surprise you with his incredible managerial ability.
Since he retired, however, everything has changed. We have spent billions of money trying to bring in presumably good players and yet we have failed. We are too desperate to regain our competitiveness that it becomes "the never ending story", as the topic suggests. I sometimes wonder how many more players do we actually need. I still like United, I still watch every game despite the difference in time zone, but I have to admit the excitement has diminished.
Yeah Klopp would have been my first choice too but unfortunately that Toy Story puppet sold us as a Mickey Mouse organisation (quite literally)Of course we miss the managerial ability of Ferguson, that is a one off. Biggest problem though is we have simple bought really badly. Not just player wise but manager wise as well. Moyes was never the right manager, neither was Mourinho, was always going to end the way it did, his best days were way beind him and he was totally the wrong fit. I actually thought Van Gaal would do well, but of course didnt.
We have missed out so far on some fantastic managers, Klopp was always my first choice, Nagelsmann should have been snapped up too, Pochettino was also a very good option.
Then you look at the transfer history. Ferguson of course had many duds himself, but in the whole period he was here, literally only a couple of awful windows. Nearly every season he made one excellent signing at least.
Yet Moyes signed totally the wrong fit of players with Mata and Fellaini
Van Gaal signed ageing crocked stars or seriousloy over rated youngsters like Depay
Mourinho signed players to fit his philosophy that just arent Man United type players
So yes,w e have lost our sense of identity, style and generally havent even signed good players.
I am not convinced Ole is the manager to get us back to glory days.......however, the one sign of encouragement is he does know the clubs identity. Genarally I think he has bought the right type of players. He needs to buy more and continue to offload more though as simply his number of purchases was 2/3 players short last summer
Yes painful to say it as well, you look at liverpool and there high tempo game now under him, would have been ideal here. I do think we should have went all out for Nagelsmann, huge gamble considering his age and relative inexperience, but he looks like an all time great in the making for me, fantastic manager in the makingYeah Klopp would have been my first choice too but unfortunately that Toy Story puppet sold us as a Mickey Mouse organisation (quite literally)
How on Earth Maddison (or even Grealish) could play successfully with Pogba AND Fernandes on a regular basis is beyond me. 3 AM and Fred? Really? Fred is a b2b. How many CMs we'll put on the pitch?Maddison or Grealish would do a fantastic midfield with Pogba and Fernandes. We'd have possibly the best attacking midfield in the PL. With Fred behind them and Rashford or Martial or Greenwood upfront we'd be a force to be reckoned with
It can work if we have a world class goalkeeper and a good enough defense. Brazil used to play Ronaldinho Kaka and Ze Roberto in midfield all the time.How on Earth Maddison (or even Grealish) could play successfully with Pogba AND Fernandes on a regular basis is beyond me. 3 AM and Fred? Really? Fred is a b2b. How many CMs we'll put on the pitch?
Do you think we will break the bank for Sancho this summer or do you expect us to bide our time on this oneIt's important that we dont think too big this summer in terms of the number of changes to our squad.
Right now we are a squad on the up. We are playing well, beating some quality opposition and, crucially, the team spirit appears to be as good as it has been in a number of years. We need to cherish that, not try to run too fast. That's not the way United do things. This project is, IMO, a year ahead of schedule already, so the smart play right now is to layer the quality on in stages, not to risk upsetting the balance we've worked so delicately to build.
That being said, my opinion above is still largely based around these being regular times, and obviously we are far from that. We have no idea what competitions we will be playing in next season, no way of knowing how this break will affect our players, and even less idea of how badly global football will be impacted financially. There could be some quite insane bargains to be had whenever the next transfer window opens, and that could lead us to some options that are too good to walk away from.
What I'd like to see? Sancho, Bellingham, and maybe a striker if the right one can be got. I cant see Pogba leaving now so our midfield has a nice balance and adding Bellingham freshens it up, though I also like Kalvin Philips but maybe we are a season away from that with Matic's recent form. 2 to 3 players at most works for me. Sancho is the break the bank player that takes the team up a level.
Most likely because he’s more of an attacking midfielder/playmaker whereas we’re probably in the market for a defensive specialist to complement Pogba and Fernandes.I’m surprised at the lack of mentions of Houssem Aouar of Lyon. Very much available this summer for a reasonable fee. A very talented player and so composed for a young age!
Good potential squad player.24. CF. Hee-Chan Hwang, RB Saltzburg. Plays in BTEC league
We’d still need a striker this season too. If Ighalo isn’t kept on we won’t have enough options upfront.I honestly believe signing Sancho, keeping Pogba, and signing any one of Partey, Grealish, Ñiguez, (Bellingham), would complete our rebuild.
If Ole can't make that work, someone surely has to in the future. Great squad for 10 years. Perennial contenders in all competitions.
We wont be quiet in the coming windows either. Haaland 2021?
I kind of agree, but a Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and James all competing for 3 spots, I feel other areas should be prioritized.We’d still need a striker this season too. If Ighalo isn’t kept on we won’t have enough options upfront.
Great post . Well until I got to the keep Jones part then I threw up and leftRealistically, with current situation
Out: Grant, Fosuh Mensah, Smalling, Rojo, Sanchez
We NEED far more than that though. If we were able to sell all the players, personally:
As above plus DeGea (said with regret, been a great player but he has gone backwards recently, we have a contract with him, we have a great number two and a great young keeper, let them fight it out, now would be the time to cash in considering his age)
Lindelof: bang average and have a feeling he wouldnt accept beign a squad player, which is all he should be for us, I would actuallykeep Jones as a squad member to guard against Bailly and Tuanzabe having more injury problems
Dalot: We have Laird coming through and Williams can also play at right back
Pogba: For me we already have his replacement in Fernandes, fed up of the circus around him and dotn ever think he will be consistently performing at the levels he is capable of. Though Matic looked finished he did ok the last month of play and again like JOnes would be a valuable and experienced squad member
Perreira: I had relatively high hopes for him but it just isnt happening
James & Chong: Controversial and probably slated, but sorry he is pants, see nothing more than pace and work rate, he has no quality or vision, he wont be here in three years time guaranteed, Id get rid now
Lingard: He is 27 now, not sure he is a postive member of the dressing room and really he has had 8 good months in several years. COuld consider keeping him as a valuable squad member, I would rather take the money personally
Bellingham (send him on loan to Germany if possible)
Soteldo (swap for Perreira)
Also would extend Ighalos loan
Under £300m - profit made
A young squad, half of which is English but still experienced pros in goal, defence, midfield and attack, also exciting second choice players in almost every position. For me that is a squad that could develop into genuine title challengers in a couple of seasons...of course it is unrealistic and football managerish....the point being, what we need.....we still have players in double figures in my opinion who are either not good enough, dont have the right attitude/ethic or whose time really may be up to make way for others....we are currently still a long long way off of City and Liverpool and 1/2 big signings helps but is still not anywhere near enough
United have one of the best defensive records across Europe this season so Lindelof isn't that bad . If you have seen Jones play and think he's better then I give up. I would agree to get back to the top we need another quality CB but for me Lindelof is a player worth keepingThe first thing we need to do is sell Lindelof and get a proper partner for Maguire. I have not seen a worse starter in defence than Lindelof, yet he continues to play. he might do well in a league like La Liga, but he is not suitable for the premier league. Along with him should, others who need to move out is Rojo, Jones, and Lingard. Matic has earned a reprieve with his performances in the last couple of months.
We should take the opportunity to stack up on young hungry players in tough times. I know we are not immune to the crisis that is ongoing, but we need to pull out all stops to get some young talent in. There will be some decent value to be had in this transfer window and we need to get in and take advantage.
We should try and get Sancho for the right-wing position. Zakaria or Partey for midfield and any other top talent for other positions the scouting dept has identified. The time to strike is this upcoming window with so much uncertainty around.
I think Lindelof has shown he’s a decent player who still has improvement in him. I’d stick with him. Our defence is fine: if someone truly outstanding came on the market and money is no object then by all means. I’m for competition in the squad. It’s just we have other more pressing issues than replacing Lindelof.United have one of the best defensive records across Europe this season so Lindelof isn't that bad . If you have seen Jones play and think he's better then I give up. I would agree to get back to the top we need another quality CB but for me Lindelof is a player worth keeping
He really inst that good either, very much a weak link. Forgetting Jones maybe he is probably our weakest centre back and I would include those on loan. On his side he has been consistant and injury free, unlike the rest though. If we dont sign a centre back this window upcoming, I really hope Bailly or Tuanzabe can step up, or maybe even Mengi as Lindelof is consistantly really average.United have one of the best defensive records across Europe this season so Lindelof isn't that bad . If you have seen Jones play and think he's better then I give up. I would agree to get back to the top we need another quality CB but for me Lindelof is a player worth keeping
I think an injury to Martial and we’re struggling again though.I kind of agree, but a Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood and James all competing for 3 spots, I feel other areas should be prioritized.
But sure, sign a decent squad striker while we wait for Haaland in 2021.