Smithy89
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We still need a CB, fullback, DM, Winger, Striker etc etc etc. Just doesn't seem to end.
50% of them are defenders because we have a shitty defense and we desperately need to improve that.Cavani and Thiago Silva? I'm sorry, but I can't think of players I want less, to be honest.
8 signings, 4 of which are defenders. Two is turning 34 next season and one is turning 36.
Come on, man. We're not trying to build a retirment home, are we?
Why?
This is just a masterpiece in science fiction.
The retirement home I'm talking about is Thiago Silva, Edinson Cavani and Joao Moutinho.50% of them are defenders because we have a shitty defense and we desperately need to improve that.
What retirement home are you talking about? There's 3 players over 30 in the starting 11 I posted and 1 in the reserves. That's 4/22.
Cavani is a must. Still a WC striker and a winner who will improve the team in the same way Bruno did. He's the utmost professional, his age doesn't matter really, especially when you have Mason in the wings already. He keeps in top shape, works like a horse and scores for fun. There's not one reason he shouldn't be signed.
We need to improve this defense and Silva is better than anyone we have even at his age. He'll be fine for one season, but I'd also be happy with someone like Boateng or Bonucci instead of him.
Yeah, i think it will depend on what we can get from sales, at CB there's at least potential for Axel or Bailly to be that fast, athletic partner Maguire needs if they can stay fit, Matic is the only holder we have so I'd go for that position and Sancho if we only bring in 2.This is what I think too, but very unlikely I reckon. I think two will be the max we buy, our owners are tight in normal years so covid will surely have an impact.
I'm not saying we should avoid Sancho. I'm saying the need for a quality center back is bigger than a generational talent on the right wing, because we already have 3 generational talents in attack. It's not like we are desperate for creativity from any angle.I disagree.
Players like Sancho are almost never available, and when they are, we should be all over them. Right now we have Greenwood (who should be playing more as a 9) and Dan James for the RW. That's not competing with the best. 4 players (Greenwood, Martial, Rashford and Sancho) for competing for the 3 spots up front is competing with the best, and even then we need one more (squad option = Ighalo replacement) in my opinion.
I agree we need a better CB. But in my opinion, when/if Sancho is available, we simply have to go for him.
If we can't buy two players, get rid of all deadwood, keep Smalling and try to play Tuanzebe.
Your deluded if you think we need a CB more than Sancho.I'm not saying we should avoid Sancho. I'm saying the need for a quality center back is bigger than a generational talent on the right wing, because we already have 3 generational talents in attack. It's not like we are desperate for creativity from any angle.
Sure we should go for Sancho but 100% no if it affects our ability to get a proper center back.
And I'm not saying we should avoid signing a center back. I just think we should prioritize Sancho above everyone else, and you think we should prioritize a CB over Sancho.I'm not saying we should avoid Sancho. I'm saying the need for a quality center back is bigger than a generational talent on the right wing, because we already have 3 generational talents in attack. It's not like we are desperate for creativity from any angle.
Sure we should go for Sancho but 100% no if it affects our ability to get a proper center back.
You said you would buy Sancho even if it meant no center back, which isn't about prioritizing but actually displacing one for another. I want Sancho too, and I'm fine if we prioritize getting him done so long as it doesn't hurt our ability to tie down a top center back, because that's the area on the pitch we need most improvement in.And I'm not saying we should avoid signing a center back. I just think we should prioritize Sancho above everyone else, and you think we should prioritize a CB over Sancho.
I think it would be ludicrous to buy another very expensive CB only a year after breaking the world record for Harry Maguire and going without a good RW for a decade, especially if it means we don't get Sancho.
But please, do both. And a CM/DM. But if we can only afford one, there should be no doubts whatsoever that Sancho should be our number 1 target.
Yes, but this doesn't mean I don't want us to sign a center back. You say the exact same thing, just the other way around.You said you would buy Sancho even if it meant no center back, which isn't about prioritizing but actually displacing one for another. I want Sancho too, and I'm fine if we prioritize getting him done so long as it doesn't hurt our ability to tie down a top center back, because that's the area on the pitch we need most improvement in.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I say we should go for Sancho and forget Grealish. Sancho can play number 10 and we have a very talented attacking midfielder in mejbri who we should develop.1. RF
2. CM
3. CDM
I think we should mainly be concerned by the complete lack of quality depth in the squad as opposed to the starting XI which I think looks fairly good. I know some may argue that there are issues in defence but I don't think an injury here or there in defence really impacts on the performance of the team in the same way that an injury to Pogba or Bruno would. I'd be more inclined to run it again next season with the same defensive options before looking to possibly strengthen in Summer 2021.
Sancho is obviously the target for RF, and should be a United player if we do wrap up CL qualification.
In terms of CM, I don't really see how someone like Grealish would be a good fit. OGS has accommodated both Bruno and Pogba in the side by pushing Pogba deeper; if Grealish were to sign, which of Grealish or Bruno would be pushed deeper alongside Matic? Obviously, Grealish would be more suited to playing alongside Pogba, but I don't think we would be getting good value in the transfer market if we sign a CM who can only play alongside one of our two other primary passers. I'm not too sure on the veracity of the sources involved, but we were linked to Tolisso a few weeks ago; he might make more sense in terms of fit than Grealish for instance.
As for CDM, I think we need both depth and a long-term starter given Matic's age. Rice might make sense in terms of fit but I can't see him coming cheaply given that he's English and he's come up out of West Ham's academy. I think someone like Marc Roca might be a good option here; he has a €40 million buy-out clause but Espanyol got relegated so you could probably buy him for even less than that.
I really disagree with it being the area we need the most improvement. It's pretty much level of defence as City and Liverpool have. It's the attack where we are really far behind both, and even though we're improving, Sancho is the one who is perfect for that spot and sort out our attacking depth and starting positions at the same time. There is no such obvious choices for CB, no dream signing like what Sancho is.You said you would buy Sancho even if it meant no center back, which isn't about prioritizing but actually displacing one for another. I want Sancho too, and I'm fine if we prioritize getting him done so long as it doesn't hurt our ability to tie down a top center back, because that's the area on the pitch we need most improvement in.
Going by the league table on goals conceded and goals scored, you definately a point, however I feel that our attack has been clicking into gear and this will likely continue. Whereas in defence the wheels really have been coming off, and it needs a strong looking at.I really disagree with it being the area we need the most improvement. It's pretty much level of defence as City and Liverpool have. It's the attack where we are really far behind both, and even though we're improving, Sancho is the one who is perfect for that spot and sort out our attacking depth and starting positions at the same time. There is no such obvious choices for CB, no dream signing like what Sancho is.
Our attack clicks when all are fit. Take out Bruno and it won't. Take our Rashford and it'll be a level down. Greenwood is 18 and shouldn't be starting yet. Sancho gives us an automatic front 3 where any injury or substitution or rest, Greenwood comes in for any of the 3. Thats the role he should have at this stage of his career imo and he'll push any of the other 3 for starting places so its perfect competition. As it stands, if we don't sort out the RW position, we'll be fecked with any injury in our front 3. You generally need more depth in attack anyway compared to defensively. I'd say #2 for priorities should be CB, closely followed by a clear starting holding midfielder as the top 3. But without a doubt #1 is Sancho, based on both his own quality and our deficiencies in both starting 11 and squad.Going by the league table on goals conceded and goals scored, you definately a point, however I feel that our attack has been clicking into gear and this will likely continue. Whereas in defence the wheels really have been coming off, and it needs a strong looking at.
No chance. We've been begging for a proper right winger for years and Sancho fits that bill perfectly. He will rightly be our top priority this summer.I'm not saying we should avoid Sancho. I'm saying the need for a quality center back is bigger than a generational talent on the right wing, because we already have 3 generational talents in attack. It's not like we are desperate for creativity from any angle.
Sure we should go for Sancho but 100% no if it affects our ability to get a proper center back.
5 in, 13 out?Go big or go home...... probably take 2 windows.
In:
Sancho 90m
Koulibaly 70m
Partey 40m
Icing - Grealish 40m
200m - 240m
-------------Henderson
Wan B--------Maguire--- Koulibaly ------Shaw
---------Partey--------Pogba------
-------------Fernandes--------------
Sancho-----Martial-------Rashford
Out:
Bailly 15m
Rojo 10m
Smalling 15m
Jones 10m
Lingard 15m
Pereira 15m
Sanchez 0m
De Gea very unlikely but 30 mill to anyone that will take him
Fred 40m
120m - 150m
Loans:
James
Chong
Garner
Only 5 of the 13 has played any significant game time this year - Lingard, Periera, Bailly, Fred, De Gea5 in, 13 out?
Doesn't sound right to me.
On topic:
Forward - Sancho
RB
CB
DM, replacement for Matić
Doesn't matter, we need squad depth, we can't get rid of everyone at once.Only 5 of the 13 has played any significant game time this year - Lingard, Periera, Bailly, Fred, De Gea
From his list Rojo Smalling Jones and Sanchez haven't featured at all and we've never needed them. The remaining 4 players being sold will be replaced. Koulibaly replaces Bailly, Henderson replaces De Gea, Grealish replaces Pereira, Bruno has already replaced Lingard. Only thing I don't agree with is loaning JamesDoesn't matter, we need squad depth, we can't get rid of everyone at once.
That would be a fanstastic transfer window which won't happen cause we're trying to get Sancho too. I dont see us getting all those players in one window. I'd keep Freed for squad depth.From his list Rojo Smalling Jones and Sanchez haven't featured at all and we've never needed them. The remaining 4 players being sold will be replaced. Koulibaly replaces Bailly, Henderson replaces De Gea, Grealish replaces Pereira, Bruno has already replaced Lingard. Only thing I don't agree with is loaning James
Exactly this. Drives me nuts. Not one player has been consistently good year in year out. Even De Gea is at it now and he was our most consistent player for years. This time next year we will be looking for Maguire and Wan B replacements knowing our luck.Whenever it looks like we need just a couple of good new players, 2 or 3 of the existing squad then seem to fall off a cliff playing wise. It really is a never ending story.
I know he won't do but if I was Ole I'd bring Smalling back and bite the bullet. Definitely no worse than what we have right now and would actually compliment Maguire more than Lindelof does.
Sancho if we get CL and can afford him looks a goer.
New DM to compete with Matic.
I think it's highly probable we will be all wanting a new right back soon. Since we bought Bruno and stopped being a sit back and counter team, AWB has looked like a fish out of water. He's good defensively but he's a real weak link for us with the way we now want to play because he's just not comfortable on the ball.Exactly this. Drives me nuts. Not one player has been consistently good year in year out. Even De Gea is at it now and he was our most consistent player for years. This time next year we will be looking for Maguire and Wan B replacements knowing our luck.
Agreed. I'm of the opinion though that cover for Bruno's position is priority #2. I reckon it'll be Donny Van de Beek (though hoping for Grealish). Get Sancho and an attacking mid, ship out Lingard, Mata, Rojo, Jones and Smalling. Next season (assuming we can't afford it this window) get a new DM (Zakaria, Camavinga etc.)and a new top class CB if we're still having this conversation about Lindelof/Tuanzebe. The elephant in the room is the GK position, but I think Ole would rather give Hendo a chance than not.Our attack clicks when all are fit. Take out Bruno and it won't. Take our Rashford and it'll be a level down. Greenwood is 18 and shouldn't be starting yet. Sancho gives us an automatic front 3 where any injury or substitution or rest, Greenwood comes in for any of the 3. Thats the role he should have at this stage of his career imo and he'll push any of the other 3 for starting places so its perfect competition. As it stands, if we don't sort out the RW position, we'll be fecked with any injury in our front 3. You generally need more depth in attack anyway compared to defensively. I'd say #2 for priorities should be CB, closely followed by a clear starting holding midfielder as the top 3. But without a doubt #1 is Sancho, based on both his own quality and our deficiencies in both starting 11 and squad.
So maybe Sancho & VDB as the quality players and Pau Torres as the prospectOle has told it Man Utd times. We will neither sell nor buy too many players in a transfer season. I know we have a lot of deadwood and and many places that need better cover however I do support the current strategy of the club in smaller changes in the team and then step by step come closer to be a title challenger in the long term. I would indeed be happy if we get 2-3 players in (2 quality players and 1 prospect), and then get rid off 3-4 players
Still say to keep an eye on VDB situation after we have sold some playersYeah, the more I think about it, the more I say we should go for Sancho and forget Grealish. Sancho can play number 10 and we have a very talented attacking midfielder in mejbri who we should develop.