1- Meunier
2- Tierney
3- Kessie
4- Dier/Jorginho
and a right winger if we can add a 5th
2- Tierney
3- Kessie
4- Dier/Jorginho
and a right winger if we can add a 5th
What four players would you like to see come here in the Summer
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Thomas Meunier
Ryan Sessegnon
Toby Alderweireld
Jorginho
I would like to see Pereira and Fosu-Mensah come back into the team aswell
--------------------DDG---------------------------
Meunier----Alderweireld---Bailly------Sessegnon
--------------Jorginho----Matic-------------------
--------------------Pogba------------------------
---------Sanchez----------Martial--------------
-------------------Lukaku-----------------------
--------------------Romero---------------------
Valencia------Lindelöf----Rojo---------Young
-------------Herrera-----McTominay---------
--------------------Pereira-------------------
-------------Mata------------Lingard----------
-------------------Rashford-------------------
Reserve: J.Pereira, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, A.Gomes
Out: Darmian, Blind, Smalling, Jones, Shaw, Carrick, Fellaini
Ryan Sessegnon
Toby Alderweireld
Jorginho
I would like to see Pereira and Fosu-Mensah come back into the team aswell
--------------------DDG---------------------------
Meunier----Alderweireld---Bailly------Sessegnon
--------------Jorginho----Matic-------------------
--------------------Pogba------------------------
---------Sanchez----------Martial--------------
-------------------Lukaku-----------------------
--------------------Romero---------------------
Valencia------Lindelöf----Rojo---------Young
-------------Herrera-----McTominay---------
--------------------Pereira-------------------
-------------Mata------------Lingard----------
-------------------Rashford-------------------
Reserve: J.Pereira, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, A.Gomes
Out: Darmian, Blind, Smalling, Jones, Shaw, Carrick, Fellaini
Eric Bailly had taken the Premier League with ease and is quite comfortably at an elite level, or at the very least very close as you put it. Alderweireld would be a good buy, although his injuries seem to build up every season.
2016/17 Herrera (free)
Robben (free)
Thiago Alacantra
Alderweirald
Bonus: a new long-term contract for De Gea with no buyout.
Robben (free)
Thiago Alacantra
Alderweirald
Bonus: a new long-term contract for De Gea with no buyout.
In all seriousness
Sandro - Left back is a weak position for us. We need the best solution money can buy. Sandro is a complete fullback.
Alderweireld - PL proven and world class. No brainer.
Mahrez - We're impotent on the right hand side. Valencia defends okay and runs with the ball but provides no real attacking threat. Mahrez can cut in, go wide, take players on, has proven it for a couple of seasons now. He'd also get rid of the predictability we suffer from.
World Class CM - This needs to be the signing we break the bank for. Get in someone that can link up play and support Matic, allowing us to give Pogba a more attacking role. I didn't want to put down Veratti or Kroos because i think they're both unatainable, but someone of that calibre is what we should be aiming at.
We could also do with a RB, but it's unlikely to happen this summer.
I am a big fan of getting young talent (Tierney or Sessengon), People have mentioned De ligt recently who is also a great prospect, but we don't have the wave of success required to take such risks. If you have a winning established side, you can bring in young players and groom them - right now i think the pressure is too high for us to do that.
I do think we need these type of players in our squad, but we need to have a clear out of our current squad players before talent like this can be bought in to fight for a first team spot. At Manchester United nobody should be guarunteed a first team spot, our "second string" should try and incorperate as many "first team alternatives" as possible. We have that in 3 positions, goalkeeper, striker and left wing, we should try for a few more.
Sandro - Left back is a weak position for us. We need the best solution money can buy. Sandro is a complete fullback.
Alderweireld - PL proven and world class. No brainer.
Mahrez - We're impotent on the right hand side. Valencia defends okay and runs with the ball but provides no real attacking threat. Mahrez can cut in, go wide, take players on, has proven it for a couple of seasons now. He'd also get rid of the predictability we suffer from.
World Class CM - This needs to be the signing we break the bank for. Get in someone that can link up play and support Matic, allowing us to give Pogba a more attacking role. I didn't want to put down Veratti or Kroos because i think they're both unatainable, but someone of that calibre is what we should be aiming at.
We could also do with a RB, but it's unlikely to happen this summer.
I am a big fan of getting young talent (Tierney or Sessengon), People have mentioned De ligt recently who is also a great prospect, but we don't have the wave of success required to take such risks. If you have a winning established side, you can bring in young players and groom them - right now i think the pressure is too high for us to do that.
I do think we need these type of players in our squad, but we need to have a clear out of our current squad players before talent like this can be bought in to fight for a first team spot. At Manchester United nobody should be guarunteed a first team spot, our "second string" should try and incorperate as many "first team alternatives" as possible. We have that in 3 positions, goalkeeper, striker and left wing, we should try for a few more.
WOW! These 4 players will properly slot into the team and i think we can hit levels that City did this season. All 4 consistent performers and have been so good in the recent past. Sandro is key for Juve, Umtiti is world class and i hear Jose has personally requested for his transfer and United are ready to pay the release clause but i have a feeling he's a clever player and is fantastic for Barca and should not leave. Milinkovic Savic is the perfect partner for Pogba in a free number 8 role and can do wonders in that place and keep things calm with the ball. Finally, Leon Bailey, the man from Bayer Leverkusen. He has been a fantastic player on both wings but i again think he can play on both the wings and is a left footer, which can be a confusion for Jose again. Maybe we should try and get Bale or Mahrez for the next 2-3 years to be safer and confirm the RW for one player (consistency).
Umtiti
Sandro
Fabinho/Jorginho
Kovacic
Sandro
Fabinho/Jorginho
Kovacic
Kroos, Verratti, Sandro, Dybala.
LB: Alex Sandro
DM: Rodrigo
CM: NDombele
RB: Mukiele
DM: Rodrigo
CM: NDombele
RB: Mukiele
Sessegnon
Fabinho
Milinkovic-Savic
Fabinho
Milinkovic-Savic
Sandro
Kovacic
Vidal
Dybala
Kovacic
Vidal
Dybala
Bellerin
Alex Sandro
SMS
Jorginho
Alex Sandro
SMS
Jorginho
Alex Sandro
Alderweireld
Meunier
Milinkovic Savic
Strengthening the defence as well as helping us in the offensive set up. Two wing backs who love to get forward.
The midfield one is still up for debate. I like Savic from what I've seen for him, but he's going to cost an absolute bomb and here's question marks on whether he represents the value of the transfer fee he's rumoured to be worth.
If we get priced out of that one, I'd go for Kovacic.
Alderweireld
Meunier
Milinkovic Savic
Strengthening the defence as well as helping us in the offensive set up. Two wing backs who love to get forward.
The midfield one is still up for debate. I like Savic from what I've seen for him, but he's going to cost an absolute bomb and here's question marks on whether he represents the value of the transfer fee he's rumoured to be worth.
If we get priced out of that one, I'd go for Kovacic.
Alex Sandro
Vidal
Lewis Cook
Dybala
Vidal
Lewis Cook
Dybala
A left back (Alex Sandro ideally, if not Tierney)
A CB (Umtiti ideally, if not Alderwiereld)
Defensive mid (Jorginho/Fabinho)
Box to Box mid (Fred/SMS)
edit - and if I could make it 5, it would be a RB.
I really don't think we need another forward. Strengthen the defence and the midfield and the attack will improve, we have the personnel.
A CB (Umtiti ideally, if not Alderwiereld)
Defensive mid (Jorginho/Fabinho)
Box to Box mid (Fred/SMS)
edit - and if I could make it 5, it would be a RB.
I really don't think we need another forward. Strengthen the defence and the midfield and the attack will improve, we have the personnel.
Alex Sandro
Davinson Sanchez
Vidal
Dybala/Pulisic/Forsberg
Davinson Sanchez
Vidal
Dybala/Pulisic/Forsberg
Alex Sandro LB
Fabinho CM(R), CM(D)
Mateo Kovacic CM(R), CM(L), AM(C)
Nabil Fekir AM(C), AM(R), FW(R)
Sandro is an easy choice as he's on nearly every list. Fabinho can play central midfield with Matic in a midfield 2 or in place of Matic in a midfield 3. Kovacic and Fekir are very good passers and dribblers, which are useful attributes in Mourinho's multiple midfield and attacking setups. I would categorize all 4 of these players as reasonably available. I don't believe United will buy a CB because Rojo was extended, it's too soon to give up on Lindelof, and Tuanzebe will earn playing time. I think TFM will surprise at RB after getting a good run in preseason.
Fabinho CM(R), CM(D)
Mateo Kovacic CM(R), CM(L), AM(C)
Nabil Fekir AM(C), AM(R), FW(R)
Sandro is an easy choice as he's on nearly every list. Fabinho can play central midfield with Matic in a midfield 2 or in place of Matic in a midfield 3. Kovacic and Fekir are very good passers and dribblers, which are useful attributes in Mourinho's multiple midfield and attacking setups. I would categorize all 4 of these players as reasonably available. I don't believe United will buy a CB because Rojo was extended, it's too soon to give up on Lindelof, and Tuanzebe will earn playing time. I think TFM will surprise at RB after getting a good run in preseason.
Tierney
Savic
Dybala
Umtiti
Promote Fosu
Savic
Dybala
Umtiti
Promote Fosu
Verratti
Alderweireld
Sandro
Mahrez
Alderweireld
Sandro
Mahrez
Alderweireld
Willian
Tierney
Kroos
Willian
Tierney
Kroos
Alderweireld
Sessegnon/Tierney/Fit Luke Shaw
World class midfielder - don't follow all the leagues in the world, like it seems most on here does, so no idea.
Mahrez for RW.
Sessegnon/Tierney/Fit Luke Shaw
World class midfielder - don't follow all the leagues in the world, like it seems most on here does, so no idea.
Mahrez for RW.
We need two midfielders for sure.
At the moment,
Pogba, Herrera, Matic, McTominay, Fellaini, Carrick
Carrick & Fellaini are most likely leaving.
Herrera could possibley be sold as well leaving Pogba, Matic, McTominay
I would get
Fabinho
Jorginho
Isco (as a RF)
Tierney/ Sessagnon
We need two strong (in terms of quality) midfielders to help Pogba deliver his masterclass
At the moment,
Pogba, Herrera, Matic, McTominay, Fellaini, Carrick
Carrick & Fellaini are most likely leaving.
Herrera could possibley be sold as well leaving Pogba, Matic, McTominay
I would get
Fabinho
Jorginho
Isco (as a RF)
Tierney/ Sessagnon
We need two strong (in terms of quality) midfielders to help Pogba deliver his masterclass
Dier
Tierney
Mahrez
Maguire
Tierney
Mahrez
Maguire
All day long
Can you count to 4?
I'd like to see Messi come but it ain't going to happen. We all like to think we're playing fifa and say go for him or him but in reality targets are limited. Umtiti is playing us for a better deal at Barca. We're not getting any Real players unless De Gea goes the other way, so, Kroos, Varane, Bale are out of the picture in my opinion. Can't see Spurs letting Alderweireld go to us.
In terms of what we need: LB, RB, CB? CM. But I think Mourinho might consider a move for a RB at a later window.
CB: Do we need one? Lindelof hasn't played too many games this year and that's with injury prone players like Bailly and Rojo and Jones in the squad. He's still not featured as a first team regular. Maybe the answer is to play Lindelof more? I say this as I don't see the point in signing a CB and hardly giving them the opportunity to really show what they can do. Let him have a season to settle in and then make him a regular starter next season. In any event if we go for a CB, I think we should go for Milan Skriniar of Inter Milan. He's a monster.
LB: I'd go for Keiran Tierney. I think Mourinho will want more of a finished product and probably go for someone like Alex Sandro or Ghoulam.
CM: Depends on what type of midfielder you want. Fabinho, Seri, Jorginho all very different types of players. I'd go for Jorginho. For some reason I think Seri could be the one Mourinho goes for. I know he's said in the past that he doesn't see himself playing in a cold country but I just think he'll be the one Mourinho would prefer over the others. He's a pure athlete. Up and down, up and down and can play.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho tries to bring Willian in from Chelsea. The way it's looking he won't be playing champion's league and him and Mourinho have a good relationship. He's one of Mourinho's 'generals'. Wouldn't be surprised.
In terms of what we need: LB, RB, CB? CM. But I think Mourinho might consider a move for a RB at a later window.
CB: Do we need one? Lindelof hasn't played too many games this year and that's with injury prone players like Bailly and Rojo and Jones in the squad. He's still not featured as a first team regular. Maybe the answer is to play Lindelof more? I say this as I don't see the point in signing a CB and hardly giving them the opportunity to really show what they can do. Let him have a season to settle in and then make him a regular starter next season. In any event if we go for a CB, I think we should go for Milan Skriniar of Inter Milan. He's a monster.
LB: I'd go for Keiran Tierney. I think Mourinho will want more of a finished product and probably go for someone like Alex Sandro or Ghoulam.
CM: Depends on what type of midfielder you want. Fabinho, Seri, Jorginho all very different types of players. I'd go for Jorginho. For some reason I think Seri could be the one Mourinho goes for. I know he's said in the past that he doesn't see himself playing in a cold country but I just think he'll be the one Mourinho would prefer over the others. He's a pure athlete. Up and down, up and down and can play.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho tries to bring Willian in from Chelsea. The way it's looking he won't be playing champion's league and him and Mourinho have a good relationship. He's one of Mourinho's 'generals'. Wouldn't be surprised.
Realisticish targets as I don't think the likes of Umtiti, Alderweireld, Sessegnon will be coming
Bale
Milinkovic-Savic
Tierney
Boateng
Bale
Milinkovic-Savic
Tierney
Boateng
Alderweireld
Alcantara
Alex Sandro
Pulisic
Alcantara
Alex Sandro
Pulisic
Alderweireld/Varane
Sandro/Teirney
Fred/Seri
SMS/Mahrez (Depends which formation we're going with)
Sandro/Teirney
Fred/Seri
SMS/Mahrez (Depends which formation we're going with)
1 gouhlam, great attacking fullback, not sure since His injury though, 2 Fabinho, versitile, great player, 3 Mateo Kovacic, extreamly underarter, midfielder who can do sevral Jobs in midfield,4 Nabil Fekir. Fantastic dribbler, moves the ball quickley.
In -
Alex Sandro (50m)
Toby Alderweireld (40m)
Marco Verratti (90m?)
Thomas Meunier (40m?)
Leon Bailey (60m?)
Out -
Smalling - 25m
Darmian - 15m
Young - Wages
Carrick - Wages
Blind - 15m
Fellaini - Wages
Shaw - 20m
Wishful thinking. Budget - 205m
Alex Sandro (50m)
Toby Alderweireld (40m)
Marco Verratti (90m?)
Thomas Meunier (40m?)
Leon Bailey (60m?)
Out -
Smalling - 25m
Darmian - 15m
Young - Wages
Carrick - Wages
Blind - 15m
Fellaini - Wages
Shaw - 20m
Wishful thinking. Budget - 205m
Alderweireld
Sandro
Fred
SMS
Sandro
Fred
SMS
Would depend on the budget and how realistic the targets are. So taking that criteria into account:
In:
Sandro
Aldeweireld
Thiago/Kroos/Saul (someone of that quality, who we might be able to get)
Willian
(we need a first choice RW but I'm struggling to think of any type of proven quality out there - maybe Mahrez? - Bale/Robben too old/expensive/injury prone. Malcolm/Bailly, littered with potential, but might both be too young and give us more of the Martial/Rashford dilemma/inconsistencies and if we get a RW - what happens to Martial/Rashford's development, assuming it means Sanchez on the LW, with Pogba in a midfield 3?)
Out:
Carrick (retired)
Zlatan (gone)
Shaw (not working out)
2 of Smalling/Jones/Rojo (and keep Axel - otherwise loan him again)
Blind
Darmian
Fellaini
Mata (time's up, especially if we sign a RW)
Also, here's hoping Valencia can give us 1 more quality season, with TFM as backup. Retain Young as the backup LB.
In:
Sandro
Aldeweireld
Thiago/Kroos/Saul (someone of that quality, who we might be able to get)
Willian
(we need a first choice RW but I'm struggling to think of any type of proven quality out there - maybe Mahrez? - Bale/Robben too old/expensive/injury prone. Malcolm/Bailly, littered with potential, but might both be too young and give us more of the Martial/Rashford dilemma/inconsistencies and if we get a RW - what happens to Martial/Rashford's development, assuming it means Sanchez on the LW, with Pogba in a midfield 3?)
Out:
Carrick (retired)
Zlatan (gone)
Shaw (not working out)
2 of Smalling/Jones/Rojo (and keep Axel - otherwise loan him again)
Blind
Darmian
Fellaini
Mata (time's up, especially if we sign a RW)
Also, here's hoping Valencia can give us 1 more quality season, with TFM as backup. Retain Young as the backup LB.
we don't have 400 ml
Not sure I share the same enthusiasm that Daniel Levy will sell us Alderweireld in the summer when he is not under pressure to sell until 2019 when he will have a buy-out clause activated. Umtiti is apparently on the verge of signing a new contract with Barca. Not sure Real are selling Varane either. Boateng, Papastathopoulos, Kostas Manolas all probably more likely
By the way I tend to agree, but I do think its interesting that most people goe for defensive and midfield options over attackers, even though our attacking football has been of concern.
I would like to see:
Sandro/Tierny
Aldeweireld
Jorginho
Seri
However I really do think we need a solution for RW, personally I would deploy Sanchez there but if Jose doens't intend to do so then he needs to go shopping.
I would like to see:
Sandro/Tierny
Aldeweireld
Jorginho
Seri
However I really do think we need a solution for RW, personally I would deploy Sanchez there but if Jose doens't intend to do so then he needs to go shopping.
Not getting too giddy, I think all of these guys might be open for a new challenge and could possibly be attainable for the right money (Umtiti I don't believe is even remotely considering leaving Barcelona)
LB - Sandro or Alaba
CB - Varane or Koulibaly
CM - Verratti or Fabinho (Could even play RB)
CM - Savic or Kessie
I'm also intrigued by Doucoure.
He's had a fantastic season at Watford, could he step up a level at United, possibly he could.
Might be a master stroke...!!
LB - Sandro or Alaba
CB - Varane or Koulibaly
CM - Verratti or Fabinho (Could even play RB)
CM - Savic or Kessie
I'm also intrigued by Doucoure.
He's had a fantastic season at Watford, could he step up a level at United, possibly he could.
Might be a master stroke...!!
Hazard, Neymar, Bale, Kane
My 4 new signings in a formation
---------------De Gea---------------
Valencia--Bailly--Aldeweireld--Sandro
---------------Matic--------------
----Pogba---------------Jorginho----
Bale-----------Lukaku-----------Sanchez
Initially had Jorginho as the deepest in midfield
---------------De Gea---------------
Valencia--Bailly--Aldeweireld--Sandro
---------------Matic--------------
----Pogba---------------Jorginho----
Bale-----------Lukaku-----------Sanchez
Initially had Jorginho as the deepest in midfield
This is what I would do in terms of picking four players to come to United, whilst also trying to be realistic in terms of transfer expenditure.
RB - Odriozola (23 in December; good age-profile - £40m)
LB - Tierney (21 in June ; good age-profile again, but might need some time to adjust - £30m)
CDM - Jorginho (27 in December, which is relatively young given the position he plays in; would probably take a season to adjust though, and is not the type of player who thrives in a Mourinho side - £60m)
RW - Cengiz Under (21 in July; should be rotated gradually into the side, and seems to be something of a relatively high-ceiling player - £45m + Daley Blind)
That would come to £175m altogether; if the club would allow a net spend of £150m, then you would have to sell £25m worth of players (Which shouldn't be too hard).
Ideally, we also need to buy a Box-to Box CM in the mould of Vidal (Not Vidal however; too old), as a hypothetical three-man midfield involving Pogba and Jorginho would need someone like him in order to make the midfield more robust. Age-wise and quality-wise, I would say that Saul Niguez fits the bill; however, he would likely cost upwards of £80m, which makes the transfer unlikely given the club's probable self-imposed limit on net spend.
RB - Odriozola (23 in December; good age-profile - £40m)
LB - Tierney (21 in June ; good age-profile again, but might need some time to adjust - £30m)
CDM - Jorginho (27 in December, which is relatively young given the position he plays in; would probably take a season to adjust though, and is not the type of player who thrives in a Mourinho side - £60m)
RW - Cengiz Under (21 in July; should be rotated gradually into the side, and seems to be something of a relatively high-ceiling player - £45m + Daley Blind)
That would come to £175m altogether; if the club would allow a net spend of £150m, then you would have to sell £25m worth of players (Which shouldn't be too hard).
Ideally, we also need to buy a Box-to Box CM in the mould of Vidal (Not Vidal however; too old), as a hypothetical three-man midfield involving Pogba and Jorginho would need someone like him in order to make the midfield more robust. Age-wise and quality-wise, I would say that Saul Niguez fits the bill; however, he would likely cost upwards of £80m, which makes the transfer unlikely given the club's probable self-imposed limit on net spend.