What if UEFA just populated their competitions by ranking?

[Alex99]

As briefly discussed in the league suspension thread, a possible outcome (should next season go ahead as normal) is that UEFA simply populate their competitions via UEFA ranking. I believe it's the last tie-breaker in their group stages already. But if that were to happen, what would next season's Champions League and Europa League draws look like?

Assumptions made are that Man City's ban is upheld (I can't be bothered researching if anyone else in Europe is banned), no qualifiers are played, and UEFA stick to the limits set for qualification spots from each league (this will not include the extra space allocated for Europa League or Champions League winners that finish outside of their respective league's qualification spots). As pots can't be determined by competition winners, they will simply be ordered by rank.

Champions League
Pot 1
Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus, PSG, Liverpool, Manchester United

Pot 2
Arsenal, Sevilla, Dortmund, Tottenham, Roma, Napoli, Lyon, Shakhtar

Pot 3
Porto, Benfica, Ajax, Zenit, Leverkusen, Dynamo Kyiv, Basel, Beskitas

Pot 4
Salzburg, Schalke, CSKA Moscow, Olympiacos, Lazio, Monaco, Gent, Copenhagen


Europa League
Pot 1
Chelsea, Villarreal, Valencia, Sporting CP, Leipzig, Braga, PSV, Wolfsburg, Anderlecht, Athletic Bilbao, Krasnodar, Celtic

Pot 2
Plzen, Dinamo Zagreb, Frankfurt, Lokomotiv Moscow, Atalanta, Inter Milan, Fenerbahce, Marseille, Sparta Praha, Genk, Astana, Club Brugge

Pot 3
APOEL, Slavia Praha, Ludogorets, Young Boys, BATE, Galatasaray, Red Star, Malmo, Partizan, St-Etienne, Rapid Wien, Leicester

Pot 4
Istanbul Basaksehir, Qarabag, PAOK, Steaua Bucharest, AC Milan, AZ, Spartak Moscow, Wolves, Feyenoord, Legia, AEK, Zorya Luhansk



So, thoughts on those competitions if they were to happen?

 

[WakeAndBeek]

Such bullshit, we have no right to be in the champions league next season ahead of Leicester if the season was to end today

 

[ti vu]

There is no fairness in that ranking. Since the system is down, why use it to make it more unfair?

How about starting the new (temporary system) to weather the storm? European Super League

 

[Nico87]

If this season Is declared null and void I wouldn‘t be surprised If they had a longer than usual qualifying rounds next season with arbitrarily invited cash cows the chance to qualify for the champions league in the first round qualifiers. It would reduce the risk of lawsuits and UEFA would happily rake in the extra income.

 

[ti vu]

If the season Is declare null and void I would be surprised If they had a longer than usual qualifying rounds with arbitrarily invited cash cows the chance to qualify for the champions league. It would reduce the risk of lawsuits and UEFA would happily rake in the extra income.

There is no way to do the qualification round for ongoing leagues unless you‘re talking about having all teams in the ongoing leagues to play qualifying rounds first for CL, then EL.

Why? Because CL, EL qualification spot are still for grasp. For example, it’s mathematically possible for City to finish outside top 4. Yet they are mathematically possible to deny Liverpool to be crowned champions at the same time. Since we can’t use league points and position, to help with this qualification, just don’t matter worse.

 

[Finn MacCool]

I think it’s up to each national league to sort this out as to how the placings are decided. There are very different situations in each league.

 

[Gringo]

How are Arsenal ahead of Chelsea in the rankings?

 

[Joseunited]

Shouldn't be any European football next season if all leagues are declared null and void anyway.

 

[Alex99]

How are Arsenal ahead of Chelsea in the rankings?

I think because Chelsea had a year out of Europe completely.

 

[Greck]

Is this being suggested only because it favours us?

 

[Alex99]

Is this being suggested only because it favours us?

I just saw it being floated in the other thread and thought it would be interesting to see how things would pan out if it were to happen.

Seems very harsh on both Chelsea and Leicester, and extremely kind to us and Arsenal.

Also means Sheffield United would miss out on a possible spot too. If City weren't banned, Wolves would also miss out.

 

[RedCurry]

Champions League next season could be shortened and group stages could be removed. This would perhaps give the domestic leagues enough time to resume their 2019/2020 seasons and immediately start 2020/2021 season without a break. To reduce the number of games, domestic leagues could remove next season’s domestic cup competitions.

One way or the other I believe this season can be resumed in the summer if the disease is controlled by then.

 

[ti vu]

Champions League next season could be shortened and group stages could be removed. This would perhaps give the domestic leagues enough time to resume their 2019/2020 seasons and immediately start 2020/2021 season without a break. To reduce the number of games, domestic leagues could remove next season’s domestic cup competitions.

One way or the other I believe this season can be resumed in the summer if the disease is controlled by then.

Transfer issues.

Are teams allowed to use newly recruits? In close race, is it fair for one team to benefit from newly bought players?

If newly recruits are not allowed. What if a team face with a huge turn over. Their remaining of last season squad are not on the same quality which affect their final 9 games or so. Is it fair?

This is likely with team fighting to stay up. Facing uncertainty, players would likely to jump ship while recruiting new players is nearly impossible since in few months you as player can face with reality to play in lower leagues. Not selling player who want out, again create issue with the dressing rooms! Even with same squad, after an infighting over transfer, a team can nosedive. Team and players stuck in lower leagues until next transfer window.

IMO it’s terrible idea to resume this season then start new season.

 

[RedCurry]

Transfer issues.

Are teams allowed to use newly recruits? In close race, is it fair for one team to benefit from newly bought players?

If newly recruits are not allowed. What if a team face with a huge turn over. Their remaining of last season squad are not on the same quality which affect their final 9 games or so. Is it fair?

This is likely with team fighting to stay up. Facing uncertainty, players would likely to jump ship while recruiting new players is nearly impossible since in few months you as player can face with reality to play in lower leagues. Not selling player who want out, again create issue with the dressing rooms! Even with same squad, after an infighting over transfer, a team can nosedive. Team and players stuck in lower leagues until next transfer window.

IMO it’s terrible idea to resume this season then start new season.

The transfer window can be during the normal July and August with new players only able to join when the next season starts. In fact, the transfer window could be opened earlier in maybe May or June. For example, the 2021 season can begin in Oct simultaneously across Europe.

 

[ti vu]

The transfer window can be during the normal July and August with new players only able to join when the next season starts. In fact, the transfer window could be opened earlier in maybe May or June. For example, the 2021 season can begin in Oct simultaneously across Europe.

Then what happened for teams facing exodus? Their old squads get deflated. Is it fair for them?

 

[RedCurry]

Then what happened for teams facing exodus? Their old squads get deflated. Is it fair for them?

I might be missing your point. But a team facing exodus would still have all its players to finish the season. The exodus would only happen after the end of the season. If a team had players leaving, they would have the same amount of time as before to buy new players.

 

[ti vu]

I might be missing your point. But a team facing exodus would still have all its players to finish the season. The exodus would only happen after the end of the season. If a team had players leaving, they would have the same amount of time as before to buy new players.

Why would players who got their transfers to another risk playing their heart out with their old clubs to risk an injury? Not impossible for players to move to club that directly compete with their old clubs.