We're Utd, minimum is a title push. The fact that we have fallen so far behind that this is not a genuine aim is nothing but a result of how badly Woodward has managed things since he got the job. How many other managers, coaches, players, staff can be blamed before his head finally rolls?
What is the absolute minimum that United should achieve next season?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Top 3 next season!!
We’ve a lot of ground to make up on City and Liverpool, CL is the minimum expected.
Top 4.
I think with Chelsea having the transfer ban and Arsenal not being able to splash the cash we should definitely finish 4th and I think we can beat Spurs to 3rd if we wrap up our summer transfers early and the squad has time to gel before the season kicks off. Its imperative that Ed and his team wrap up our summer business, CB, DM, RCM, and cf if Lukaku leaves, asap to give Ole and his staff the maximum amount of time to get the squad fit and firing on all cylinders.
If we can get Jadon Sancho next summer, keep Pogba, and stabilize our back 4 I think in a perfect world we could compete with City and Liverpool the season after next.
If we can get Jadon Sancho next summer, keep Pogba, and stabilize our back 4 I think in a perfect world we could compete with City and Liverpool the season after next.
Standing by this..
Every year its "top 4". Then a circumstantial reason as to why we shouldn't get top 4.
So next year il go with top 6.
So next year il go with top 6.
We were supposed to be better than Arse (only Boomerang stands out), and a "Hazard-less with a green-as-hell manager" Chelsea. That meant Spurs were our only rival left for the 3rd spot (+ the chance of ruining the title for Liverpool by making them drop 3 points at OT). Leicester was Top5-7 at best. Also hopes for a FA Cup + EL double.
Reality has come crashing down, hard. And it's not even mid-October.
Reality has come crashing down, hard. And it's not even mid-October.
Staying up, being a nice guy, and scoring more than 1 in a couple of games is enough right?
No, we had the "opportunity" to get ahead of those teams, IF, and that's one shuddering huge IF, we did enough work to our squad.
And we didn't, so it's only due to the sheer averageness of the rivals, that we even have a chance of top 4 still.
Absolute minimum, is to remain in the top part of the PL and if Mason Greenwood proves not to be a natural goal-scorer (at the moment he is showing by his positioning and movement in the box, enough to suggest he might become one) then that is number one transfer target for Ole. Our defence is looking better every game, with Axel now making a bid, and we can muddle along with Fred and Pereira in mid-field as McTominay is gaining confidence with every game and that will allow Pogba licence to play ten yards further up the pitch.
Unfortunately my man Matic has had his day in the Sun, his back injury (despite the op) has left him much slower and less mobile and he will leave at the end of the season, maybe even January window, if, as above, either Fred or Pereira are able to step up to the plate.
Unfortunately my man Matic has had his day in the Sun, his back injury (despite the op) has left him much slower and less mobile and he will leave at the end of the season, maybe even January window, if, as above, either Fred or Pereira are able to step up to the plate.
My point is that many folks correctly predicted a midtable season when Ed didn't bother to sign another CB and at least one MF and a RFW and/or a CF replacement for Lukaku.
After reading the other threads...promotion
Expectations should be top 4, same as every other United manager so far.
Reality is we'll finish around 8th at best and, if Ole stays the entire season, probably closer to 15th. Hopefully not lower.
Reality is we'll finish around 8th at best and, if Ole stays the entire season, probably closer to 15th. Hopefully not lower.
Top 4
Huge transfers = a sign of greatness!True.
Although we at least got a centre back. And a bargain one at that
Playing watchable football would be a start.
Promotion to the premier league via playoffs.
Not getting relegated
It's a far fetch to be fair. But between top 4 and relegation battle there's more possibility of the later. Anything in between 4 and 17 are just numbers.
It's a far fetch to be fair. But between top 4 and relegation battle there's more possibility of the later. Anything in between 4 and 17 are just numbers.
If Moyes didn't get time why should Ole.
Most important thing is Ole keeping the lads happy...
Depends on the investment really, or lack of it knowing the board and owners.
Top 4, what is so special that we have to drop standards for Ole who has no credentials to his managerial CV? we are playing the worse football post fergie where we can barely score a goal to save our lives, we look like a team with no style, patterns, ideas of how to attack, we still look dodgy at the back, no player is getting better under him infact his favourites like lingard and rashford are playing worse under him than they did under either Mourinho or van Gaal.
If we invest decently in the next transfer window, which I gave little faith in the board doing. We have a chance of getting 4th, as we are only 3 points away now due to our rivals also not playing to the best if their ability.
I'm doubting that we will get 4th but a few good transfers and some luck with injuries and we may still get it. I'm hoping
I'm doubting that we will get 4th but a few good transfers and some luck with injuries and we may still get it. I'm hoping
What about this season??? Are we just writing it off because Ole is at the wheel?
Because he took over a team that had cruised the title the year before, and Ole took over a shimmering wreck of a squad?
Course not, we'll still squeak a few wins at home and get battling draws like yesterday.
Not because Ole is at the wheel but because we have a seriously imbalanced squad.
It's only in balanced because of the signings Ole made and the formation he uses, had conte took over instead of Ole we would have been just fine with the squad balance.
Got down bookies and bet on it you will make lots of money
Absolutely. We also need to bring some of the old friends at the club in important roles. Regardless if they have credentials or not.
Realistically I would honestly say this...
Year 1: Top 8
Year 2: Top 6
Year 3: Top 4
An improvement of two places per season with a modest goal this season would seem like a realistic plan.
Once we are back in the Champions League we can push on by investing in established talent
Year 1: Top 8
Year 2: Top 6
Year 3: Top 4
An improvement of two places per season with a modest goal this season would seem like a realistic plan.
Once we are back in the Champions League we can push on by investing in established talent
It'll get progressively worse, Ole will be gone by March at the latest and we'll finish about 8th.
What gives you any confidence that United will be back in the champions leagues in three years time?
You forgot 'running', and also 'the United way'.
I saw this coming on the 17th June.
Oh I'm not confident at all, I see this as a best case scenario.
With the right investment and management it is a realistic goal, I think it is a fair target/ask
Why don't you start from the bottom 16? Then we can keep him longer and finally satisfy our fetish for a 'long term manager'
I rarely read much about this on here - it's always the about team, the football, the manager etc. but what about the ground? Would it perhaps not be better to accept that O.T. is getting a bit shabby and bite the bullet: move to a temporary home (possibly ground share with City) whilst the whole thing is re-built?
See: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6049195/manchester-city-united-ground-stadium/
See: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6049195/manchester-city-united-ground-stadium/