What is your nations worst defeat?

[Annihilate Now!]

To celebrate this weekends match between England and Iceland, thought it would be a good time to a) reminisce about what for me is England's worst defeat in my lifetime and b) ask the question "What is your countries worst defeat" (Easy one for our resident Brazilians at least)

Whilst we've seen a fair few bad England defeats (3-2 at home to Croatia to not qualify for Euro 2008 immediately comes to mind) ... I do think the Iceland defeat at Euro 2016 sits on top of the pile. Even with Iceland riding the wave in the way that they were, there's no way a team like England should be losing to Iceland, not in a major tournament anyway. Yeah that Croatia loss under McClaren was bad (at home too, to an already qualified team) but Croatia were on the same level as England at the time.

The game itself was a bit of a disaster, it's not like we lost by a flukey goal... Iceland scored twice and England were just inspid, uninspiring and completely Hodgsoned. The only shining lights were a 5 minute cameo for Rashford and this:

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And the fact that it brought the Hodgson era to an end.

 

[GDaly95]

First one that comes to mind for me is Republic of Ireland 1-5 Denmark

Eriksen ruined us

 

[GhastlyHun]

Since there was no WC in 2018, I'll go with Germany 1 - England 5 in 2001.

 

[SamVimes]

Kinsale 1602.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

To celebrate this weekends match between England and Iceland, thought it would be a good time to a) reminisce about what for me is England's worst defeat in my lifetime and b) ask the question "What is your countries worst defeat" (Easy one for our resident Brazilians at least)

Whilst we've seen a fair few bad England defeats (3-2 at home to Croatia to not qualify for Euro 2008 immediately comes to mind) ... I do think the Iceland defeat at Euro 2016 sits on top of the pile. Even with Iceland riding the wave in the way that they were, there's no way a team like England should be losing to Iceland, not in a major tournament anyway. Yeah that Croatia loss under McClaren was bad (at home too, to an already qualified team) but Croatia were on the same level as England at the time.

The game itself was a bit of a disaster, it's not like we lost by a flukey goal... Iceland scored twice and England were just inspid, uninspiring and completely Hodgsoned. The only shining lights were a 5 minute cameo for Rashford and this:

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And the fact that it brought the Hodgson era to an end.

That McClaren clip is absolute gold. He is by all accounts a fine coach but he has a habit of looking so hapless.

Those two defeats leap to mind as an England fan. I'd also like to add the draw with Algeria at World Cup 2010. As Rooney said "It's nice to see your own fans booing", the blinding awfulness of that performance seemed to lay bare the disfunction at the heart Capello's camp. This one wasn't a defeat but for me it was far worse than the hammering we ended up taking from Germany in the last 16.

 

[Wayne's World]

First one that comes to mind for me is Republic of Ireland 1-5 Denmark

Eriksen ruined us

I think Cyprus 5-2 in 2006 was even worse. At least Denmark were a decent international side, we were totally outplayed and smashed by bloody Cyprus.

We also had our worst ever win that campaign too when we managed to sneak a 2-1 win against San Marino with a last minute goal by Steven Ireland

 

[Cooksen]

Australia 4 vs Germany 0 - 2010 World cup
France 6 vs Australia 0 2013 friendly

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

Australia 4 vs Germany 0 - 2010 World cup
France 6 vs Australia 0 2013 friendly

Sounds pretty good to me from an Aussie standpoint

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Australia 4 vs Germany 0 - 2010 World cup
France 6 vs Australia 0 2013 friendly

Bet you bloody wish you'd beat Germany 4-0!

Though is losing to Germany - semi-finalists that year 4-0 really that bad for Australia? They did beat us 4-2 in that tournament and Argentina 4-0 too.

 

[Gio]

According to some stats company Gracenote these are Scotland's worst ever

Mostly bollocks though. Poland were building their great 70s team in '65, Peru were class through most of the 70s, Belgium reached the Euro 80 final a year later, Ireland had an excellent Euro 88 a year alter.

I'll go for Wales pumping us 4-0 in 2004 with a fairly average side.

 

[krautrøck]

WW2

 

[MTF]

Brazil 1 x 7 Germany . World Cup semi-final, at home. I think it could only get worse if it were the final.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

WW2

Well this thread has taken a turn..

 

[greendevil]

Cyprus 5 - 2 Republic of Ireland in a Euro 2008 Qualifier in Nicosia... We were awful in that qualifying campaign.

 

[Lay]

Officially I believe we (India) lost 10-1 to Yugoslavia in the 1952 Helsinki Olympics. The worst in my lifetime was losing 9-1 to Kuwait in a friendly in 2010.

pretty sure India lost to Guam are some point. Population wise, I wonder if that’s the biggest disparity.

 

[do.ob]

Since there was no WC in 2018, I'll go with Germany 1 - England 5 in 2001.

Wouldn't you say that losing 0-3 to Portugal's B-team at the Euros 2000 or drawing Latvia in the 2004 tournaments were much worse?

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Brazil 1 x 7 Germany . World Cup semi-final, at home. I think it could only get worse if it were the final.

Never heard about this one - care to elaborate? Sounds like a hell of a game....

 

[Abizzz]

None of those are Germany's worst defeat. Loosing to Croatia in 1998 was the worst. Croatia had less inhabitants than the DFB had members. And Croatia deservedly won 3-0. Germany was reigning European Champion.

Edit: Meant to quote these:

Since there was no WC in 2018, I'll go with Germany 1 - England 5 in 2001.

WW2

Wouldn't you say that losing 0-3 to Portugal's B-team at the Euros 2000 or drawing Latvia in the 2004 tournaments were much worse?

 

[Annihilate Now!]

None of those are Germany's worst defeat. Loosing to Croatia in 1998 was the worst. Croatia had less inhabitants than the DFB had members. And Croatia deservedly won 3-0. Germany was reigning European Champion.

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South Korea from 2018 not up there too?

 

[Oldyella]

To celebrate this weekends match between England and Iceland, thought it would be a good time to a) reminisce about what for me is England's worst defeat in my lifetime and b) ask the question "What is your countries worst defeat" (Easy one for our resident Brazilians at least)

Whilst we've seen a fair few bad England defeats (3-2 at home to Croatia to not qualify for Euro 2008 immediately comes to mind) ... I do think the Iceland defeat at Euro 2016 sits on top of the pile. Even with Iceland riding the wave in the way that they were, there's no way a team like England should be losing to Iceland, not in a major tournament anyway. Yeah that Croatia loss under McClaren was bad (at home too, to an already qualified team) but Croatia were on the same level as England at the time.

The game itself was a bit of a disaster, it's not like we lost by a flukey goal... Iceland scored twice and England were just inspid, uninspiring and completely Hodgsoned. The only shining lights were a 5 minute cameo for Rashford and this:

Tweet

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And the fact that it brought the Hodgson era to an end.

That clip will never not be funny.

 

[Abizzz]

South Korea from 2018 not up there too?

Not for me personally. While it wasn't expected somehow there wasn't the same expectation towards the team. Might be an age thing too. Defeats just hurt worse when you're 10.

 

[Pexbo]

@fontaine

 

[tomaldinho1]

I hope there's someone here from Liechtenstein, the only country ever to have been beaten by the mighty San Marino.

 

[Siorac]

Hungary specialises in historic defeats. The most painful one is still the 1954 World Cup final where Puskás and co. should have easily beaten a far inferior team (one they beat 8-3 in the group stage) and were two up after 8 minutes...

The most embarassing? Losing 1-0 to Andorra in a World Cup qualifier in 2017.

 

[Traub]

South Africa 0 - 3 Uruguay in the 2010 group stages. Lead to us not going through to the R16 in our home tournament.

France must have some crackers.

 

[Robertd0803]

I think Cyprus 5-2 in 2006 was even worse. At least Denmark were a decent international side, we were totally outplayed and smashed by bloody Cyprus.

We also had our worst ever win that campaign too when we managed to sneak a 2-1 win against San Marino with a last minute goal by Steven Ireland

The 5-2 vs Cyprus was laughable. Was such a shameful performance/result and general period in Irish football.

The worst Irish result wasnt a defeat (technically) it was a 1-1 draw in Paris vs France when Henry blatantly cheated.

 

[GhastlyHun]

Wouldn't you say that losing 0-3 to Portugal's B-team at the Euros 2000 or drawing Latvia in the 2004 tournaments were much worse?

I don't remember German early 2000s results in great detail. Probably because they were rather shitty on the whole, despite Kahn carrying the NT to the final in 2002. That England match somehow stuck in my memory, but there surely were more meaningful defeats. You could count the 02 WC final, at that, because losing a final always sucks.

 

[el3mel]

Algeria 1 - 0 Egypt in WC 2010 final qualifying match was a disastrous day.

 

[Cooksen]

Bet you bloody wish you'd beat Germany 4-0!

Though is losing to Germany - semi-finalists that year 4-0 really that bad for Australia? They did beat us 4-2 in that tournament and Argentina 4-0 too.

Australia was lucky to lose only by 4 goals, the formation and tactics were all wrong and it was an arse kicking and a half on that stage.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

2-3 vs Portugal and a Ronaldo hattrick. Missed the world cup due to that in 2014.
Can't remember being smashed in a big game as long as I have followed Sweden.
Have a few other annoying defeats like vs Russia in the Euro 2008 and Ukraine in Euro 2012.

 

[Dan_F]

Depends on how you define worst defeat. Obviously the Iceland one for the quality of the opposition. But for the importance of match and how it went during the game, I’d say the semi vs Germany in 96. The fact that it was a home tournament made it even more disappointing.

 

[pacifictheme]

Feel the 1996 Germany semi final loss or the 1990 semi final loss were worse than Iceland because we were never going to win the tournament in 2016. Think we could have in 96 or 90 so felt so much worse.

 

[Charlie Foley]

I think Cyprus 5-2 in 2006 was even worse. At least Denmark were a decent international side, we were totally outplayed and smashed by bloody Cyprus.

We also had our worst ever win that campaign too when we managed to sneak a 2-1 win against San Marino with a last minute goal by Steven Ireland

Feck me I had erased that entirely from my memory. Richard Dunne stumbling around in Cyprus and then Staunton and the rest of that clown car management team fist pumping on the pitch away to San Marino.

Went back to look over that campaign. I thought both of those results were much later in the campaign. Cyprus was our second match and San Marino away our 5th. That group was a mess, 7 teams in it meant fixtures were never even. The idiot I am, when Czech Republic drew away to Wales (which meant we had both played 7 matches and they were only a point ahead of us) I thought we had hope. Of course we picked up 4 more points from 15 and they won 5 from 5.

so many other little moments like conceding at home to Czech Republic right after we scored, and conceding that last minute equaliser away in Slovakia which fecked us up going to Prague needing a win and losing 1-0 in the dullest game ever (on my birthday no less).Staunton booting the water bottle Germany away. The absolute drizzling shits of a campaign right the way through, where we as a nation were reduced to pinning our hopes on Stephen Ireland

 

[Offside]

Cyprus 5 - 2 Republic of Ireland in a Euro 2008 Qualifier in Nicosia... We were awful in that qualifying campaign.

Is that the same campaign they needed a 90th minute goal to beat San Marino 2-1?

 

[RC89]

WW2

 

[Florida Man]

 

[Haddock]

pretty sure India lost to Guam are some point. Population wise, I wonder if that’s the biggest disparity.

That's probably the most embarrassing. Guam isn't even a real country for god's sake.

 

[Charlie Foley]

Is that the same campaign they needed a 90th minute goal to beat San Marino 2-1?

Yeah

 

[Vault Dweller]

According to some stats company Gracenote these are Scotland's worst ever

Mostly bollocks though. Poland were building their great 70s team in '65, Peru were class through most of the 70s, Belgium reached the Euro 80 final a year later, Ireland had an excellent Euro 88 a year alter.

I'll go for Wales pumping us 4-0 in 2004 with a fairly average side.

Mate the Wales / Georgia / Kazakhstan games were tragic.

We should win on Friday but dreading the game v Norway or Serbia.

 

[JB7]

None of those are Germany's worst defeat. Loosing to Croatia in 1998 was the worst. Croatia had less inhabitants than the DFB had members. And Croatia deservedly won 3-0. Germany was reigning European Champion.

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Losing to Croatia 1998 was worse than the defeat in WW2? Interesting take.