Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by Rozay, Nov 9, 2019 at 14:06.
Doubt Shaw is on £195 a week.
Martial was an odd one too. Relatively innocuous injury and he was out for a long time.
Some sources have him on £9.8m (£195k). Others £7.8m (£150k). When someone like Mata is reported to be getting £160k a week, is it really farfetched for Shaw to be that high? Have you seen our wage bill? It's enormous.
I’m losing patience with Shaw. I’ve heard rumours that he views professional football more of a job than a something he loves doing, and that it’s all he’s good at so he sticks at it.
While I’m not criticising that stance. There’s probably plenty of players out there who think that, and not many of them are going to be frank with it like Benoit Assou-Ekotto did once... However I don’t think that mentality cuts it at the very top level of the game. I don’t think it’d wash with Sir Alex who lives on having players who want to win all the time no matter if they’ve spent most of their career winning.
And if Shaw is basically being precious with his fitness, then I think it matches well with that rumour that he views football as a job, in that he’s protecting his working assets and knows a serious injury would mess up that huge revenue stream.
Luke vs hamstring
This has been just terrific for us/the player. Finally he gets it all together and is player of the season for us and you'd hope he can kick on and elevate his game. But he gets injured for half a season and there's a lot of uncertainty once again.
Please keep this thread on-topic and don't speculate about other things.
I wonder if hes come back a bit plump/unfit and they are using the continuing "hamstring" injury as cover, knowing how open to criticism he is for his weight, while they get him back into shape
He has competition for the spot so if he doesn't play its on him
Repetitive strain of the mouth from all his binge eating.
Shaw is a useless sack of shit
It goes under the radar but he’s got to be one of our worst ever signings
does he really still have 4 years left on his deal? christ this club is a joke with contracts.
He's never been in shape and doesn't deserve a professional football contract nevermind one at Man Utd.
I've been wanting a new left back for around 3 seasons now. It's probably the last serious weak link along with not having a proper number 10 in the squad
75 appearances in 5 and a half years apparently. Unreal.
Absolutely insane. I can't even begin to think how someone thought that was a good idea.
He's not even good enough when he's fully fit. That in combination with his joke of an injury record should result in him being replaced.
Not that anyone would take him off our hands with the ridiculous salary we gave him. We'll prob persist with him and continue playing Young every game because Shaw is always on the treatment table.
A turkey and hamstring injury...
He was in the best shape he’s been in at the start of season, clearly worked very hard to get there and was in great form too.
The cheap speculation in here is cheap. I understand the frustration but the accusations don’t weigh up against the efforts he made over the summer.
Ole was the idiot who let him try to keep playing on a hamstring injury. Did the same thing last season with Jesse. Who the feck comes back from a hamstring injury in a week. You’d think Ole never played football.
Should be a red flag about how accurate these sources are how huge of a difference the wages are reported. Papers are talking out of their asses. Why would they know the wages?
Its fascinating how the likes of him and Jones manage to get contract extensions every single time. I expect our club to renew Bailly's contract as well while at it.
I feel you when I read stupid posts like this one below. "Never been in shape", give a fecking break
Whatever it is, he’s clearly not fit enough to merit being a starter next season.
time to bring a replacement in. Can’t believe we need to spend money on defence again. Ugh.
"Protects" his value
It is obvious why we gave him a deal. In real life where real money actually matters, we have to try and manage what we have. Shaw ‘making the grade’ would have been a massive convenience for us. He already cost a huge outlay, and was coming to the end of his deal. We were facing losing him for free, and having to spend a lot of money to replace him. Him looking like he had turned a corner made life much easier for us, and it was a gamble that made sense, as it was one less position we would need to spend on.
It's a shame, injuries have definitely effected his development. I remember quite a few stories about him hiring personnel trainers and being one of the fitter players coming back from preseason. I thibk he takes his profession seriously these days (not when he was younger) yet still cannot keep fit which suggests he doesn't have the body to be a top athlete.
He will stay a few more seasons until he is fully ousted by Williams and its a shame he hasn't hit his potential as when we signed him he was on the path to becoming one of the best in his position.
New and kind of worrying trend of discussion on this site is questioning the truth behind injuries of our players. Hamstring injuries can be tiresome and take a good while to get better. Pogba was pictured in a cast, missed four games for France, Ole said how he was injured and still his injury was described as an 'injury' and used as a reason that he didn't bother playing for United.
Total average player.
Any top club would have shipped him out at the time we gave him a new 5 year contract.
His positioning is poor and he's never fit.
file him with the deadwood to be binned next summer.
‘I did the same and then the worst thing was I felt like I was fully recovered, had been 3 months played one really casual game of football where I pretty much jogged apart from the one time I decided to sprint and it went again.
Ham strings are a nightmare and normally a sign of muscle fatigue or an issue somewhere else. I seem to recall Giggs in his earlier years having a problem with his hamstrings. Took up yoga and that supposedly helped him a lot.
Because they are English.
So you want to give credit to someone for getting into shape over pre season 6 years after signing for United? Mind blowing.
Its silly as it gives the message that irrespective of performance or contribution there's always a new contact waiting in the corner
Nobody is questioning whether he is injured. I’m questioning why the feck a hamstring injury has kept him out for 3 months. One that he has not had to have surgery on. Are you unfamiliar with hamstring injuries?
That is weird comment. Do you know how much determination does it take to become a footballer?
He worked his arse off all his life to become a premier division player. Why doubt his determination?
Maybe 195k including appearance bonuses, clean sheets, assists..
Yes, I think anyone who has experienced it truly respects the injury and the recovery processes both physically and psychologically. Being fully healed is so important, but even then, it takes quite a bit of time to trust and believe you actually are.
I did mine in the dumbest way possible, suffice it to say I never repeated that action again!
A hamstring can take that long, I was out for 2 months and with that I kept suffering tightness after it. Obviously his recovery would be a lot more professional but hamstring injuries are a nightmare. My issue was that I had one leg shorter than the other and it was putting all the pressure on it.
Let’s hope he’ll be back after the international break.
My understanding is that the ones that take months require surgery. That’s for a complete tear. Like Dembele had. Shaw hasn’t gone under the knife according to any reports. Yet we’ve not even seen him in training. He was also mentioned as being back about a month ago if I recall.
he could have easily developed an inflammation that kept or is keeping him out longer when in reality his hamstring tear/strain is healed.
He could have suffered a recurrence when back training who knows.
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