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Spurs would probably have won the title 3 years ago had Bale been there. Also the CL final against a Liverpool there for the taking that night.He'd have an Audi Cup though, so there's that.
Levy is a cheap bastard, had they not sold Bale, they wouldn't have got Eriksen, Vertonghen etc.Spurs would probably have won the title 3 years ago had Bale been there. Also the CL final against a Liverpool there for the taking that night.
A Spurs team with Eriksen, Ali, Kane and Bale would have been pretty scary.Levy is a cheap bastard, had they not sold Bale, they wouldn't have got Eriksen, Vertonghen etc.
It would've been pretty good, scary? Not. It wouldn't have happened anyway with Levy at the helm.A Spurs team with Eriksen, Ali, Kane and Bale would have been pretty scary.
Not if Bale got injured, Spurs don't and never have got a good bench.Levy is a cheap bastard, had they not sold Bale, they wouldn't have got Eriksen, Vertonghen etc.
What does that have to do with anything I said?Not if Bale got injured, Spurs don't and never have got a good bench.
Give it a few years and he will beIt's unbelievable. He should be remembered as a great player there (not legend, but a great).
He will be remembered as such, no doubt.It's unbelievable. He should be remembered as a great player there (not legend, but a great).
Unfair. 15 months ago, Bale won a UCL with a commanding performance in the final.Reminds me a bit of Ronaldinho. One of the top talents in the game completely losing his passion and desire later in his career leading to a weird last few years of his career.
He has played over 90 games in the last two season... So you know he can't have been that injuredUnfair. 15 months ago, Bale won a UCL with a commanding performance in the final.
Injuries ruined him for most of 17-19, but he and CR are what made Madrid win 4 UCL in 5 years.
He and Giggs are the best welsh players of modern football. In fact, add Shearer and Rooney and you have the best attacking poker of british football of the last 30 years.
I said that injuries ruined him, not that the injuries made him lose two seasons. Anyway, how many of those "90" games he played from start to finish?He has played over 90 games in the last two season... So you know he can't have been that injured
All players know what they're in for when they sign with Real Madrid - they sign on for that as everyone knows this is a club that is ruthless and will dump the 'Galacticos' who sign on for grossly inflated wages, when those in charge feel like it. The track record was there for all to see including Gareth. The way Real treat successful managers is the same.Some proper gaslighting going on from Madrid and ZZ here. I was supportive of a club right's to discard players but they are just taking the piss. Screw him around, presumably give him permission not to travel and now talking about him instead playing golf to make him the bad guy. He could have an injury that permits golf (or recovery is aided by it) but the narrative is successfully back on him in the wrong.
AS wrote yesterday about the possibility of Bayern. Difficult but it seems our last option.
It would be great if they could get him in a loan as they did with James.
Issue is he kept getting injured. So in half those games he was still playing himself into fitness. In truth we've had him at full fitness for about a full year, out of three...He has played over 90 games in the last two season... So you know he can't have been that injured
IIRC last season there was a bit of row when he was injured, the doctors specifically told him not to play golf as it could worsen it/lenghten the healing time, and like two days later he was spotted playing golf...All players know what they're in for when they sign with Real Madrid - they sign on for that as everyone knows this is a club that is ruthless and will dump the 'Galacticos' who sign on for grossly inflated wages, when those in charge feel like it. The track record was there for all to see including Gareth. The way Real treat successful managers is the same.
Gareth is not imprisoned in the Bernabeau or held hostage in Spain - he can leave, it is his choice, he would just have to give up some of the grossly inflated money he is earning now because any other big club obviously at the moment thinks he's not worth it/has other priorities. But...but...but why should he give up his money? Exactly - it's his choice. He doesn't want to, this is what he gets.
As for golf - while some recreational golf isn't frowned on by sports clubs of every kind, if you grew up as I did in a country with a lot of space, including in my city cheap public golf courses which were accessible to the non-affluent, you too would have played the game as much as I did. And you'd know that golf is the last sport that assists an athlete recovering from injury particularly in terms of what it does to your back and hips with repetition.
While I think the issue of Gareth and golf has an element of pettiness to it regarding Real's attitude, most pro sportspeople have contractual obligations not to engage in sports or activities outside their profession or not on a regular basis. For obvious reasons.
Most likely he doesn't have any clause about no golfing in his contract but playing it consistently certainly doesn't help your body recover from other sports injuries and most likely hinders that.
The first bolded part is questionable isn't it. It seems from credible reports that he had the chance to move to China, agreed to it (I suspect solely on the basis of the cash on the table) and Madrid pulled the plug. We have no idea who actually wants him or whether those clubs are prepared to pay him even half or a third of what he's currently on, or - perhaps more significantly, whether they see him as a stop gap for a season long loan or are actually offering him a long term future. He has a family and children who are presumably fairly settled in Spain, go to school etc. and as such, him moving on is not simply about him and whether he can play football. I have a child and I wouldn't want to make a rash decision about whether I might be living for the next four years, especially when my family are comfortable and settled.I don't think anybody feels it's any kind of 'moral obligation' to be passionate about their job - however, some of us enjoy what we do and want to give off that positive energy in our work. I agree about Real Madrid's capriciousness and ruthlessness - it's one of the reasons I don't like this club and never have.
Gareth has choices unlike many people because of that money and would with much less than that - yes Real are not treating him well but he is choosing to stay. Decisions and consequences. Some other players in the same position would move to another club to enjoy their football and be appreciated again and be in the position of challenging for trophies.
Just because you won't be earning the equivalent of GDP of some countries doesn't mean you can't leave Real behind and have a great career again. Ooh, he's being victimized - no, he's choosing to suck it up. His choice.
You're over-simplifying the issue. Gareth Bale is not some wronged innocent - like Beckham and every other non Spanish footballing big name that joined Real, he knew what this club does. They've done it for decades. Buy success, are ruthless in dumping and buying players.
Gareth signed on for the bloated Real Madrid salary - lucky him but guess what, all that money comes with the not even fine print that you signed for a ruthless club like Real Madrid. He did this in full knowledge of what kind of club this is. He wanted to be a 'Galactico', he turned down other clubs and the choice was his.
And no, I can't feel sorry for somebody earning that money especially in the context of how most people on this planet struggle, many die everyday because of lack of money and resources. Over-paid sportsmen sign the devil's bargain - take the frankly obscene money, take everything else that comes with it.
If the player wants to stick it out instead of going somewhere they'll be appreciated but won't be earning more than the GDP of some countries - that is their decision that doesn't require sympathy.
Honestly, why would they? It seems that the big clubs including Manchester United who might have been the rescuer here have got a rock solid sense of perspective on Gareth Bale. Great player on his day, worth that money, no, never was as any sportsperson never was and never is.AS wrote yesterday about the possibility of Bayern. Difficult but it seems our last option.
It would be great if they could get him in a loan as they did with James.
These posters also don't get it that attitude is a key ingredient. Beckham outwore his welcome at United because Sir Alex thought his attitude off the pitch was misdirected but his hunger on the pitch was there to see right down to playing in the American League.I'll just say it here, most people here are delusional about the player Gareth Bale currently is and vastly overrates his actual contribution to Madrid's CL success.
Yes, you're right. I wouldn't do it if I were Bayern. The article is based rather on the Adidas-Bayern-Bale relationship to create a possibility.Honestly, why would they? It seems that the big clubs including Manchester United who might have been the rescuer here have got a rock solid sense of perspective on Gareth Bale. Great player on his day, worth that money, no, never was as any sportsperson never was and never is.
He is a liability with his passion - golf, not football. It does long term damage to your back and hips, you can also damage your shoulders. Why on earth should any big club waste the kind of money Gareth wants on somebody who is doing that and has a limited window of time thanks to that, his footballing injuries and general lack of drive.
Bale does come across as somebody happy just to collect the money and play golf. Christiano Ronaldo has never come across as somebody like that nor did David Beckham. Bale seems the kind of personality that gets comfortable and sets their ceiling then wonders why big clubs aren't coming calling.
Right now it looks like the worst bit of man management on Zidane's side. Bale's mentality will save him yet though it seems.Had enough of watching our game so just seen Real Madrid are playing and Bale is starting. Zidane is ultimate WUM it seems.
Guess Bale has won that particular war this season.
And if they kept Modric/Walker.A Spurs team with Eriksen, Ali, Kane and Bale would have been pretty scary.
Considering how bad we are I wouldn't even be against it at this point.Apparently he's angry at Real Madrid.
Maybe it's time to finally panic buy another injury prone player in January?