MF1138
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If he could make us look like a football team it would be a good start.
This and this. Promote more youth and make the old farts benchwarmers. Youth with hunger always beat the old slow and uninterested.Pretty much this. I don't think we have the personnel to get top 4 anyways right now barring Amad turning into Foden for us and Hojlund making huge improvements, so I'll go with the above criteria and a solid run in Europa.
Would like to see some youth experimentation too in the new system since many of the current players don't seem to fit great.
This and this. Promote more youth and make the old farts benchwarmers. Youth with hunger always beat the old slow and uninterested.
Happy to say that I agreed with him at the time.
How the tune has changed from when 90% of this forum attacked Ole for saying that mickey mouse cups don't necessarily mean real progression. Too many flip-floppers
Agreed. Ole was very obviously correct in what he said. The idiots mocked him for supposedly 'not wanting to win trophies'. I believe some of the misunderstanding was deliberate. Some revelled in shitting on Ole at the time. It was the cool thing to do.I think a lot of people misunderstood his point, some maybe deliberately too
I found it quite strange how much more people shit on Ole than Ten Hag during their respective tenures given the former is a club hero and had us playing better football and getting better results over the majority of his tenure than the latter. I guess it came down to credentials? Still weird how much more loyalty Ten Hag inspired from some sections of the fan base.Agreed. Ole was very obviously correct in what he said. The idiots mocked him for supposedly 'not wanting to win trophies'. I believe some of the misunderstanding was deliberate. Some revelled in shitting on Ole at the time. It was the cool thing to do.
Agreed. Fine margins when it came to missing out on a trophy or two during Ole's tenure also. I find it incredible that Ole hasn't been back managing again in the Premier League. It isn't a fair reflection of the job that he did here. Perception is a funny thing.I found it quite strange how much more people shit on Ole than Ten Hag during their respective tenures given the former is a club hero and had us playing better football and getting better results over the majority of his tenure than the latter. I guess it came down to credentials? Still weird how much more loyalty Ten Hag inspired from some sections of the fan base.
+1Honestly, I'll take just not being shit.
And actually I can accept being shit if its due to a commitment to a playing in a certain style/way that will bear fruit in the long run
Bringing Ronaldo back was an absolutely horrible decision. It was sentimental and irrational. It was never going to work and cost Ole his job, even though it was clearly not his decisionTo drop players who simply aren't good enough. Start with Rashford and Bruno.
That would make him the first manager since Fergie who actually made some big decisions that would make a real difference.
Ten Hag dropped Ronaldo, which many will argue was a big decision. In all honesty I don't think Ronaldo wanted to play for this awful team, so he effectively forced a move.
Agreed. I have no expectations or requirements and he can do what he wants.Honestly, I'll take just not being shit.
And actually I can accept being shit if its due to a commitment to a playing in a certain style/way that will bear fruit in the long run
Visible improvements in the quality of performances over the course of the season and by May we should be able to see a somewhat clear roadmap.
Just let him work with the players and assess the fitness and abilities, see who needs to go and build a playing style.
Start as he means to go on and long term we benefit instead of some salvage job or resorting to counter attack, don't accommodate limited players or those that aren't up to it each week. If a big name needs to go then so be it, get a technical and fitter player in that's not yet high profile, make the stars like we used to with the mentality to win each game.
The goal is to win the League and European Cup each year. Every player running out there next season should have the mindset we're going out to win the league and we need to win this game today. If we end up not out the top 3 for many years that is the bonus, not aiming for top 4 and putting in a game each month and maybe in four years we can stumble on a league challenge, we won't get the momentum or mentality that way.
Hope he's just ruthless with the players. Either adapt to his football or get binned. We've spent too much time babysitting our players and trying to alter things to fit them.
Once the core players are identified and they gel well with the formation I'm hoping for a Top 6 finish with a deep run in europe.
I don't think that is the case to be honest. Erik was just very stubborn with his lineup, he used to be the same at Ajax too. I really hope he bloods in some youngsters too, had a really good track record of doing that at Sporting, however, that was kinda forced and much easier to do given how high the stakes are here.I was about to write exactly this.
He comes with a reputation for not being afraid to cut big names, give unproven people a chance. It's the team over the superstars mentality I expect to see from him.
What I don't know is whether the club and the players contracts will support that happening. I wonder how many of them have minimum game time written into their contracts...