croadyman
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Do you want him coming back here as a backup though?Where does Vitek come in?
Do you want him coming back here as a backup though?Where does Vitek come in?
Needs to go out on loan again as a 1st choice to continue his development.Do you want him coming back here as a backup though?
Maybe to one of the promoted sides?Needs to go out on loan again as a 1st choice to continue his development.
Anywhere he gets first team football. PL football would be ideal. Someone said Sommer (37) is out of contract. I'd bring him in as no2 to lammens. Excellent keeper with really good footwork. Lammens could learn a lot from him.Maybe to one of the promoted sides?
Yeah should definitely consider himAnywhere he gets first team football. PL football would be ideal. Someone said Sommer (37) is out of contract. I'd bring him in as no2 to lammens. Excellent keeper with really good footwork. Lammens could learn a lot from him.
Personally I think it’s more important to keep him getting games so id have him on loan for another seasonWhere does Vitek come in?
Does he want to be a number 2? Maybe he wants to play every week somewhere (even if at a lower calibre club)Someone said Sommer (37) is out of contract. I'd bring him in as no2 to lammens.
We also have Lacey for RW and Gabriel for LWWings: we have Mbeumo and Amad for RW so don't think much will be done about that side. Good thing about Amorim's formation was we were able to have Amad at RWB and Mbeumo at right 10. Now we need a different solution. For other side we have Cunha. Dorgu could be more advanced and play there, Mount could play there sometimes (again far from ideal). Amad has played there.
We also have Lacey for RW and Gabriel for LW
He'd get plenty of games with us and our 60 game season. Besides lammens needs competition and some rest at some point.Does he want to be a number 2? Maybe he wants to play every week somewhere (even if at a lower calibre club)
16 in October I think.Can not include Gabriel in anything at this stage. He's not even 16 is he?
Not yet and he’s still built like a 14 year old. We need to let the guy develop before throwing him into mens footballCan not include Gabriel in anything at this stage. He's not even 16 is he?
Reality is different: if we don’t start playing him, his entourage may persuade him to look elsewhere and we lose a new Neymar as a result.Not yet and he’s still built like a 14 year old. We need to let the guy develop before throwing him into mens football
Look at the expectations you’re piling on him already. The new Neymar? He’s a 15 year old child. You need to temper your expectationsReality is different: if we don’t start playing him, his entourage may persuade him to look elsewhere and we lose a new Neymar as a result.
Besides, he is versatile and can play all 4 positions in attack, so why not to use him as a sub here and there? 60 games next year as people already mentioned, need a big squad
He is a player who produced more end product than Greenwood did for U-18, and did that at the age of 15. So if you are good enough you are old enough - it’s not as it’s expected for him to start matches regularly at 16, but being a sub player and part of the squad in a 60-game season - yes pleaseLook at the expectations you’re piling on him already. The new Neymar? He’s a 15 year old child. You need to temper your expectations
Mason Greenwood was 17 and a half when he made his debut.He is a player who produced more end product than Greenwood did for U-18, and did that at the age of 15. So if you are good enough you are old enough - it’s not as it’s expected for him to start matches regularly at 16, but being a sub player and part of the squad in a 60-game season - yes please
Max Dowman isn’t allowed to get changed in the same dressing room as the first team for safeguarding. When that’s happening, it’s pretty obvious they’re too young.Mason Greenwood was 17 and a half when he made his debut.
“If you are good enough you are old enough”. This is a dangerous mantra when you’re talking about a child. They are more prone to injuries.
But you’re not going to listen to reason. You have your mind made up that promoting a child to the men’s game after limited exposure to even u21 is the way forward.
Neymar left Brazil at 21. Neymar didn't start playing for Santos until 17. Gabriel's got 2 years until that...Reality is different: if we don’t start playing him, his entourage may persuade him to look elsewhere and we lose a new Neymar as a result.
Besides, he is versatile and can play all 4 positions in attack, so why not to use him as a sub here and there? 60 games next year as people already mentioned, need a big squad
It might be negative for his confidence and long-term development. He does not have the physique of Rooney or Ronaldo. He is very slighth. No idea about his mentality but in general I would use him sparingly in some cup games.What is the downside of trying him out next season? There is none, if it doesn’t work then we will continue with more senior players. But if it does - excellent, then we benefit from additional good attacker
Shaw is a superior footballer but can't play twice a week, which Dalot can. But man, Dalot is frustrating in the final third.Still surprised the club and fans barely.mentioning rb, think beyond cm its a priority. Shaw has been a lot more consistent and dependable tham Dalot. Ideally id sign two full backs and with more games next season id rather keep zirkzee who will get more opportunities...still think he offers more than most of the realistic experiencrd striker names...and doubt much of a net profit replacing him. The supposed lb, 2xcm and striker dont feel like the right priorities to me if we are only signing 4/5
Personally I think that there should be a rule for all European leagues that any player under 17 is not allowed to play senior football. More should be done to protect young players in my opinion.Max Dowman isn’t allowed to get changed in the same dressing room as the first team for safeguarding. When that’s happening, it’s pretty obvious they’re too young.
U16 should be outlawed, but I think even that’s on the young side. They’re children.
I'd be surprised if he isn't one of our youngest ever debutants next year. They will not risk losing him.Not yet and he’s still built like a 14 year old. We need to let the guy develop before throwing him into mens football
In recent years I would look at Garnacho and how early he was brought into the fold and given a big role. Give youngsters too much too early and it can go to their head and then attitude problems come in.. I’d even bring Chido into that argument as well with the rumours of problems this season.What is the downside of trying him out next season? There is none, if it doesn’t work then we will continue with more senior players. But if it does - excellent, then we benefit from additional good attacker
Honestly not sure. You could make case for both. I'd be happy with either really. More concerned about midfield as that's surely most important area.Given a choice would you prefer proven experienced ST like the two mentioned or someone who has that capability to cover LW and ST instead like Leao?
True, especially for Lacey. Gabriel will probably have to wait until 27/28 season when he'll be bit older.We also have Lacey for RW and Gabriel for LW
He's not on a pro contract yet right? I believe that's not til 17. If so, seems like we have very little leverage until then?I'd be surprised if he isn't one of our youngest ever debutants next year. They will not risk losing him.
Personally find him frustrating both ends, often poor defendive mistakes...his only major strength for me is driving forward in the middle thirdShaw is a superior footballer but can't play twice a week, which Dalot can. But man, Dalot is frustrating in the final third.
100% agree. We don't know the long term damage it will depend to the careers and bodies of the likes of Dowsman, Yamal etcPersonally I think that there should be a rule for all European leagues that any player under 17 is not allowed to play senior football. More should be done to protect young players in my opinion.
Yes, and look at Gavi and Pedri at Barcelona. Played into the ground at a young age. Contrast that with how Messi and Ronaldo were handled. Both were dipped in and out as teenagers.100% agree. We don't know the long term damage it will depend to the careers and bodies of the likes of Dowsman, Yamal etc
I agree, Dalot’s performances in the final third are often really frustrating. Still, I think he’s extremely underrated by the fanbase. He can contribute a lot more intensity than, for example, Shaw, and there’s probably a reason why he has four direct goal contributions. Defensively, I thought he was solid, and I believe he could surprise us offensively next season.Personally find him frustrating both ends, often poor defendive mistakes...his only major strength for me is driving forward in the middle third
I think an outright ban seems a bit like cracking an egg with a hammer, but you could definitely set minute limits for players under 17. We were always very good at slowly integrating players, even Rashford was only got half a season at 18.Personally I think that there should be a rule for all European leagues that any player under 17 is not allowed to play senior football. More should be done to protect young players in my opinion.
Isn't it well documented that Michael Owen played too often at a young age which led to injuries down the line.Yes, and look at Gavi and Pedri at Barcelona. Played into the ground at a young age. Contrast that with how Messi and Ronaldo were handled. Both were dipped in and out as teenagers.
The other side is mental. Can you imagine playing in front of 80,000 people at 15 or 16? It’s a pressure and a warping of reality that shouldn’t be put on kids.
Clearly, we need to add at the very least 3 signings in midfield, various profiles to match with Mainoo qualities.Midfield is the prime area for strengthening. Also fullback as well.