What position would you be playing N’Kunku if you’re buying Antony too?The perfect transfer window would be
Nidicka
Timber
Tchouameni
De Jong
Anthony
Nkunku
With at least 10 to 14 players leaving, the above transfers are possible financially, but unfortunately, I can't see us landing them all.
Sam Johnstone would be free, he’s out of contract next month. A host of clubs are waiting to sign him though so wouldn’t be confident he’d be happy to come here and be 2nd or 3rd choiceIn a perfect, but obviously never going to happen window:
Signings:
Johnstone - 10m
Timber - 30m
Torres - 30m + Bailly
Malacia - 20m
Tchouameni - 50m
De Jong - 60m
Nunez - 70m
Total Spend - 250m
Sales:
Henderson - 40m
Grant - 0
Wan-Bissaka - 15m
Maguire - 25m
Bailly - Px
Williams - 10m
Matic - 0
Pogba - 0
Mata - 0
Lingard - 0
Pereira - 5m
Chong - 5m
Greenwood - 0m
Martial - 0
Cavani - 0
Total Sales - 100m
Net Spend - 150m
Oh. I thought I'd read that he had a year left and was available for 10m. Perhaps it was an old article then.Sam Johnstone would be free, he’s out of contract next month. A host of clubs are waiting to sign him though so wouldn’t be confident he’d be happy to come here and be 2nd or 3rd choice
A close to perfect transfer window for me would be;We're in a situation where we have to get this transfer window perfect, this transfer window is going to be the foundation of our rebuild for our future years. I'm curious to see the signings that everyone thinks are the perfect sign of progress. Maybe also a thread to look back on after the window as well.
Probably more hope then anything but, the rational I have is about our ability to do so, combined with how necessary it is and with how much money we are getting off the wage bill. I do not think someone like ETH comes here if he is not promised major investment to turn things around fast, plus RR already spoke about 2 or 3 transfer windows to get back to the top. Adding all of that, I think it's reasonable to expect major investment, at least on par with our max of previous years.What makes you think that we will break our spending budgets?
Yeah I like that windowA close to perfect transfer window for me would be;
- DM (Kamara. £0m)
- CM (de Jong. £70m)
- RB (Dest. £15m)
- RW (Raphinha if relegated, Olise or Tete. £25m)
- ST backup (Joao Pedro, £20m)
- GK backup (Johnstone. £0m)
Total spend £130m.
2 of the recruits knowing Ten Hag and his style of football from Ajax.
2 or 3 with PL-experience.
All of the recruits aged 25 or younger (except Johnstone).
Let go of all those with contracts expiring this summer.
Sell Henderson, Martial, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Pereira, Wan-Bissaka and one of Telles or Williams.
In total perhaps sales of £75m.
A net spend of £55m that gives us a solid foundation to build on for the future.
Promote Mengi or Bernard to be the 5th CB, loan out the other.
Loan out Garner, Mejbri, Laird, Amad, Pellistri and Shoretire.
High quality players are usually courted by many clubs and it takes time. The only way we do our business fast and good is if we arranged things far before the market opens. Can the United board do that? Not sure.Hopefully we hit the ground running and get people in for preseason training rather than more drawn out transfer sagas.
That would be a great window. You could include another say 35m incoming for AWB and Williams. I would actually look to off load Dalot now also which should be another 20m. He is just not good enough and I have no doubt there are better right backs available for approx 25m.In:
Frenkie De Jong - £67m
Darwin Nunez - £60m
Raphinha - £25m
Jurrien Timber - £38m
Boubacar Kamara - £0m
Out:
Dean Henderson - £28m
Anthony Martial - £18m
Eric Bailly - £12m
Alex Telles - £7m
Axel Tuanzebe - £10m
Andreas Pereira - £5m
Net Spend: £110m
Obviously not what I expect to happen, but I would consider a brilliant window and somewhat realistic? 5 in and 6 out seems doable if United are able to move quicker under the new footballing setup then they have previously. Bear in mind one free agent and one release clause which should save some negotiating time.
Then a Pep style splurge on a new keeper and two new full-backs (LB can be a bit cheaper, somebody to compete with/push Shaw) in 2023 and I think you look in pretty good shape going into year 3.
Maguire is going for 50-60m buddy. He still has clout. AWB going for 25mIn a perfect, but obviously never going to happen window:
Signings:
Johnstone - 10m
Timber - 30m
Torres - 30m + Bailly
Malacia - 20m
Tchouameni - 50m
De Jong - 60m
Nunez - 70m
Total Spend - 250m
Sales:
Henderson - 40m
Grant - 0
Wan-Bissaka - 15m
Maguire - 25m
Bailly - Px
Williams - 10m
Matic - 0
Pogba - 0
Mata - 0
Lingard - 0
Pereira - 5m
Chong - 5m
Greenwood - 0m
Martial - 0
Cavani - 0
Total Sales - 100m
Net Spend - 150m
You are dreaming. On the wages we're paying them - we'd be very, very fortunate to get the prices I put.Maguire is going for 50-60m buddy. He still has clout. AWB going for 25m
Which club(s) would buy Maguire for 50+ or AWB for 25 and pay their wages? Names please.Maguire is going for 50-60m buddy. He still has clout. AWB going for 25m
You are dreaming. On the wages we're paying them - we'd be very, very fortunate to get the prices I put.
AWB is on 90k pw, Maguire 190k pwWhich club(s) would buy Maguire for 50+ or AWB for 25 and pay their wages? Names please.
Thanks for the reply.AWB is on 90k pw, Maguire 190k pw
Chelsea would buy Maguire (they are losing the German and Alonso) as would Newcastle Utd.
For AWB we have West Ham , Villa (spent 30m on Digne, pay House and Mings 80k Matty Cash earns 65k) Everton, Spurs, those types of clubs. I feel confident I could facilitate this sale
Why not Maguire? He still and England starter and City were keen before we signed him. I don't think his stock is down THAT much and he plays better in a 3.He will most likely perform well at the World Cup too. At Chelsea he would be a better fit than United and have Kante ahead of him and Reese James to cover.Thanks for the reply.
I personally don't think Chelsea (or any of the top clubs) would go for Maguire. Hopefully Newcastle.
As for AWB-I think the club's you've named have better options on less money. I don't think he's an upgrade on Coufal or Cash. Everton bought a RB in January and spurs use wingbacks.
Just my opinion though, we can agree to disagree.
Personally, I think Maguire is an average, overpriced player and Chelsea (and Newcastle) can find better for less transfer fee and wages.Why not Maguire? He still and England starter and City were keen before we signed him. I don't think his stock is down THAT much and he plays better in a 3.He will most likely perform well at the World Cup too. At Chelsea he would be a better fit than United and have Kante ahead of him and Reese James to cover.
I'm not sure all of those are better options than AWB but like you said its all opinions.
EDIT: there is always Newcastle
Feels like we can be more organised this summer, however until that first signing is sorted then will remain skeptical of changeHigh quality players are usually courted by many clubs and it takes time. The only way we do our business fast and good is if we arranged things far before the market opens. Can the United board do that? Not sure.
We will be for sure. If those signings will be good or not is different, but fast and rich we will be.Feels like we can be more organised this summer, however until that first signing is sorted then will remain skeptical of change
Believe we can get Timber, either a pure DM or controlling DLP and NunezUnited will do well to get 3 players in.
None from what I have seenWhat RBs have we been linked to?
Has been nothing concrete on Neves, feel like he's more likely to join ArsenalDe Gea
Timber Varane Maguire Shaw
Neves De Jong
Antony Fernandes Sancho
Ronaldo
How I wish we could afford all thatTimber
De Jong
Tchouameni
Antony
Nunez
De Gea
Dalot Timber Verane Shaw
Tchouameni De Jong
Bruno
Antony Nunez Sancho
Would be my pick, think he would be a great signingHas been nothing concrete on Neves, feel like he's more likely to join Arsenal
Cue a prolonged chase for De Jong who signs a contract extension at Barca in late August.High quality players are usually courted by many clubs and it takes time. The only way we do our business fast and good is if we arranged things far before the market opens. Can the United board do that? Not sure.
Why? Last time we got Sancho plus mister CL Varane. Is ETH a worse attraction then Ole? I don't think so.Cue a prolonged chase for De Jong who signs a contract extension at Barca in late August.
Followed by us by spending entire budget on Declan Rice on transfer deadline day.
Last time we had Champions League thoughWhy? Last time we got Sancho plus mister CL Varane. Is ETH a worse attraction then Ole? I don't think so.
Sancho is English, has virtually grown up in Manchester and probably had likes of Rashford, Shaw and Maguire in his ear.Why? Last time we got Sancho plus mister CL Varane. Is ETH a worse attraction then Ole? I don't think so.
Varane has been an atrocious signing, rarely fit and then looks well off the pace when he is.Last time we had Champions League though
I’m confused, how does your assertion refute what he says. Whether he’s been a good or bad signing doesn’t change that we’re not in the champions league and are less attractive to big name players regardless of managers.Varane has been an atrocious signing, rarely fit and then looks well off the pace when he is.
Sancho is young enough to come good yet but his performances have been largely disappointing - especially considering the cost involved.
Unless of course I have missed the sarcasm in your initial post.
