What's going on at Chelsea?

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by LawCharltonBest, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. Jun 1, 2018
    #1

    LawCharltonBest Enjoys watching fox porn

    Joined:
    May 17, 2012
    Messages:
    8,324
    Location:
    Salford
    Their owner isn't allowed in the Country. Has shelved Stadium plans. Whispers that he isn't willing to throw funds at the Club any more.

    They've been successful over the last 15 years, but they've still always seemed capable of a quick collapse like they're built on quick sand.

    Chelsea fans, what's you take? Are you concerned?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44315033
  2. Jun 1, 2018
    #2

    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2004
    Messages:
    34,219
    Location:
    Chelsea fan.
    I'd post the "this is fine" meme if I were allowed.
  3. Jun 1, 2018
    #3

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    7,360
    There’s a storm coming
  4. Jun 1, 2018
    #4

    Raw Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2013
    Messages:
    22,292
    Location:
    Manchester, UK
    They'll just win the league next season anyway.
  5. Jun 1, 2018
    #5

    Minimalist New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2013
    Messages:
    15,091
    Probably nothing in truth.
  6. Jun 2, 2018
    #6

    golden_blunder Site admin. Manchester United fan Staff

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2000
    Messages:
    92,392
    Location:
    Dublin, Ireland
    Not everyone is so confident
  7. Jun 2, 2018
    #7

    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    Messages:
    11,330
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Why is he not allowed in the country? Has enough assets in the country and not some economic refugee?
  8. Jun 2, 2018
    #8

    JinnerJamie Small ginger

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    8,756
    Location:
    The Kings Town of Hull
    Perhaps the natrual order of football is slowly correcting itself, back to the pre Abrahamovic Chelsea days. First Chelsea will fall, then in a few years City will tumble, Liverpool will continue to yo-yo between 4th and 8th and Spurs will fall back to their true level of the Newcastle’s and Everton’s.

    United under Josè and Arsenal under Emery duke it out for the title and the cups... :drool:
  9. Jun 2, 2018
    #9

    Trizy New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    12,009
    They're financially independent now. They'll have spending on par with Arsenal and Liverpool now, which is enough to challenge for any trophy if the funds are used right.

    I just wouldn't expect to see any future talents chose them over other big paying clubs. Or any 100m marquee signings unless they sell first.
  10. Jun 2, 2018
    #10

    711 Full Member Scout

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2007
    Messages:
    19,265
    Location:
    Don't Sign Old Players
    They do have a stadium, they will have a manager, and Hazard is an obvious star amongst a top 6 squad.
  11. Jun 2, 2018
    #11

    JohnnyKills Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2016
    Messages:
    4,889
    It's part of the anti-Russia crackdown following the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal on British soil.
  12. Jun 2, 2018
    #12

    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    Messages:
    11,330
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Surprised its such a blanket approach unless Roman was involved.
  13. Jun 2, 2018
    #13

    Garethw scored 25-30 goals a season as a right footed RW

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2005
    Messages:
    13,685
    Location:
    England:
    He’s very cosy with Putin.
  14. Jun 2, 2018
    #14

    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,153
    Supports:
    Spurs
    The proposed new stadium is many years down the road and may now not ever get built. Even if construction starts, they face the prospect of playing their home games at Wembley (or wherever) for 3 long seasons.

    Even worse, the club don't own the current stadium, and even the name "Chelsea Football Club Ltd" is only licensed to them.

    On top of this they owe well over £1 billion to Abramovich, their sugar-daddy funding is drying up and they may well lose some of their best players this summer .. players who don't relish playing in the Europa league.

    All in all, the club's in pretty dire straits.
  15. Jun 2, 2018
    #15

    Ducklegs Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,714
    Roman cant get a visa because he cant/wont prove his money was earned via legal means.

    Currently throwing his toys out of the pram.
  16. Jun 2, 2018
    #16

    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    Messages:
    17,239
    The name is licensed to them? What does that mean
  17. Jun 2, 2018
    #17

    cyril C Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,104
    Dire straits? Chelsea cancelled the plan to build a new stadium, they still have a current one. In fact, spending 1b to build a new stadium that could only add 20K seats is economically unsound, so a blessing in disguise. Chelsea doesn't have to sell any of their players and in fact can afford to buy new players if they feel like it, because the debtor Abra isn't going to force through a pay back. Should Abra lose interest in the operation of the club and stop sacking their manager every 2 seasons, it would be a big problem to all of us.
  18. Jun 2, 2018
    #18

    ayushreddevil9 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2015
    Messages:
    4,165
    Whenever we think about them this way, they go on to win the league. Maybe not this time around, but we should never write them off
  19. Jun 2, 2018
    #19

    vodrake Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,782
    Theyve been spending well out of their means, they owe ambramovich £1 billion personally. So if he does pull out and doesn' write off a large part of it i think their spending is going to be quite hampered for the forseeable future
  20. Jun 2, 2018
    #20

    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,153
    Supports:
    Spurs
    The name is owned by Chelsea Pitch Owners (CPO), who also own the stadium land freehold. The name is licensed back to the club on condition that the first team play their home matches at Stamford Bridge. This means that should Chelsea move to another stadium in the future, they would not be able to use the name Chelsea Football Club without permission from 75% of CPO shareholders.
  21. Jun 2, 2018
    #21

    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,153
    Supports:
    Spurs
    They don't even own the land on which the current stadium sits.
  22. Jun 2, 2018
    #22

    Ferrers New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2017
    Messages:
    31
    Supports:
    Chelsea

    You don’t half talk some waffle..

    As if the name is an issue the fans of the club own that license and will always act in the interests of the club.

    The club has been very successful over the time since Abramovich took over and I mean success as in winning leagues and European honours (not what spurs consider success) if he were to sell his hand would be bitten off.
  23. Jun 2, 2018
    #23

    Farfetched New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2017
    Messages:
    60
    He can get a visa to visit the UK, but not a visa to work unless he answers some questions on the origin of his wealth. As a result he is not happy to invest in a country where he can’t work. Long may the toys exit the pram!
  24. Jun 2, 2018
    #24

    TheReligion Abusive

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    23,011
    Location:
    Manchester
    I initially thought this was nothing but it seems as though some at the club are starting to show concern. All down to Roman really. I don't buy that if he pulls out there will be no noticeable changes though. The club and fans will definitely see the effects and they won't be positive.
  25. Jun 2, 2018
    #25

    GlastonSpur Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,153
    Supports:
    Spurs
    So bearing in mind the money owed to Abramovich, and the many obstacles to building a new stadium, how much is the club worth do you think?
  26. Jun 2, 2018
    #26

    MJJ New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Messages:
    28,955
    Location:
    sunderland(1)-Derby(1)
    UK always overreacts when it comes to making polciy reforms.
  27. Jun 2, 2018
    #27

    Dancfc Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Messages:
    1,243
    Supports:
    Chelsea
    The hire and fire culture is one of the best things off the Roman era.

    Look at what happened to Arsenal and to an extent United when they held on to managers for too long.
  28. Jun 2, 2018
    #28

    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    Messages:
    11,330
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Keeping it fresh!
  29. Jun 2, 2018
    #29

    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2014
    Messages:
    36,051
    Location:
    Birmingham
    Predicting their demise is premature. Let's see how the summer goes for them.
  30. Jun 2, 2018
    #30

    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2014
    Messages:
    36,051
    Location:
    Birmingham
    One of the world's most famous clubs, in the richest league and in the country's most exclusive area...Abromovich would have no shortage of offers.
  31. Jun 2, 2018
    #31

    Nickosaur Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    Messages:
    9,069
    Oh please, please let this happen :D
  32. Jun 2, 2018
    #32

    M18CTID Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    2,493
    Location:
    Gorton
    Supports:
    Manchester City
    Try telling that to Glaston mate. He’s already decided that they’re pretty much going out of business - talk about premature ejaculation!

    Sure, the new stadium being put on hold is an issue but since when did moving to a bigger stadium guarantee more success. It’s not helped Arsenal who were far more successful in the final years at Highbury. It’s not doing much for West Ham so far. Spurs are going to be hamstrung for a fair few years (looks a fantastic stadium mind), and it was doing fook all for City until we got an owner who pumped loads of money in (although if we stayed at Maine Road, we might not have been as attractive a proposition for Mansour to buy us so I guess it’s served a purpose in some way)
  33. Jun 2, 2018
    #33

    Trizy New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    12,009
    Yes but the club is probably worth 2bn. He could sell it which could be bad for the league considering there are plenty of Chinese billionaires that would snap up Chelsea. Not to mention, it's only time before Saudi Arabia decide to try football to clean their image.
  34. Jun 2, 2018
    #34

    Nick7 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    11,210
    Location:
    Ireland
    Wait, what happened to us?
  35. Jun 2, 2018
    #35

    CechMate1 Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Messages:
    160
    Supports:
    Chelsea
    As a Chelsea fan I'm not to worried regarding the Visa issue with Roman, it's just petty politics and money always talks and Roman is ridiculously rich. I'm pretty sure that would be sorted soon

    The thing that concerns me as a Chelsea fan is on the football side of things, we don't seem to have a clue on what we are doing. The problem for me is our board is filled with business people, there's no person on that board that truly understands how football works and has footballing background.

    We had a shocking transfer window last year, our transfer dealings were absolutely horrific. We loaned out RLC and sold Chalobah for 5 million and replaced them with Bakayoko and Drinkwater who cost almost 80 million. We also missed out on almost all our first choice targets and went into complete panic mode. There seemed to be no clear plan on what we were doing.
    We also went into complete panic mode the Summer before but got lucky due to our panic signings in Alonso and Luiz turning out to be good buys and being able to get Kante on the cheap. Then you have Mourinho's last season with us when we failed to sign our first choice targets and started randomly trying to throw money around, we also made a huge mess trying to sign John Stones and completely failed trying to sign him.

    I could be totally wrong but I feel Marina Granovskaia is a big problem for us right now. Our problems with transfers and everything else seemed to start when she became Chief Executive. I've heard stories that she's notoriously hard to deal with and goes about things with an iron fist.
    While she's shown she is great when it comes to selling players and brokering sponsorship deals, she's also shown that she doesn't have a clue and appears to rub people up the wrong way when it comes to signing players. Like I said before in this post, she has literally no background in football and no experience or understanding on how it works.

    Right now we have no idea what's happening with Conte, we still have no idea who our manager will be and we've made an absolute mess with this Sarri situation that could potentially be taken to court. We just seem to be making an absolute mess out of anything we try to do

    Oh yeah, we still haven't even got a DOF either
  36. Jun 2, 2018
    #36

    BergkamptoOvermars New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2016
    Messages:
    36
    Supports:
    Arsenal
    Haha exactly how things should really be in the premier league.
  37. Jun 2, 2018
    #37

    King Kana New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    185
    Supports:
    Chelsea
    Reason he’s trying to build the stadium isn’t cos of seats. Increasing the value of the asset for a massive sale. Quote me.
  38. Jun 2, 2018
    #38

    Dancfc Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Messages:
    1,243
    Supports:
    Chelsea
    Held onto Moyes and LVG for too long.
  39. Jun 2, 2018
    #39

    sglowrider Against Oral Equality

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    Messages:
    11,330
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Yeap. Strange business model and org structure. Lego-like mindset that you can plug in a manager and things aren't suppose to miss a heartbeat but it does. No lessons learnt. As its almost groundhog day.
  40. Jun 2, 2018
    #40

    AndyJ1985 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2016
    Messages:
    8,954
    It's about time things went wrong for them. Since Abramovich bought them it feels like no matter what they did, no matter who they signed or sacked, they'd land on their feet and continue winning trophies.