What's going on at Chelsea?

[RedDevilCanuck]

Can't believe we lost the final to them. They are shit and Even more boring and defensive than we are.

 

[Prometheus]

Can't believe we lost the final to them. They are shit and Even more boring and defensive than we are.

We are shit, but we're decidedly not more boring/defensive than you!

 

[Mint]

Annexation of the Crimea, invasion of eastern Ukraine, assassination of opposition politicians and critical journalists, shooting down a civilian airliner, use of nerve agents on the streets of Britain ... you know, little things that.

How do you know they shot down the plane?
How is any of this relevent to Abramovich? The government can't play moral police after their crimes. Maybe they should refuse Israeli money.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

We are shit, but we're decidedly not more boring/defensive than you!

It's close. Hazard is pretty much your entire attack.

 

[Loublaze]

We are shit, but we're decidedly not more boring/defensive than you!

Your team is more boring but everyone talks about united obviously.

 

[Offside]

They’re such a shit club. All success built on funds by a Russian billionaire. They’re a crap team now too. So poor from us that we lost to them.

 

[M18CTID]

How do you know they shot down the plane?
How is any of this relevent to Abramovich? The government can't play moral police after their crimes. Maybe they should refuse Israeli money.

Don’t you know? Abramovich was the one firing the RPG that took the plane down. Well, in Glaston’s mind he was.

Anyhow, London’s awash with Russian money and there’s no chance the UK government would alienate itself from all that IMO. This business with Abramovich and his visa seems like brinkmanship to me and I can see it blowing over eventually. I think, as others have alluded to, Chelsea have bigger issues on the general footballing side of things and a re-structuring of personnel within the club is required.

 

[GlastonSpur]

How do you know they shot down the plane?
How is any of this relevent to Abramovich? The government can't play moral police after their crimes. Maybe they should refuse Israeli money.

Well, international investigators concluded that the missile system that brought down the flight came from a Russia-based military unit. And Russia is being held formally responsible for shooting down the jet by Australia and the Netherlands.

Of course Russia denies it, but then they deny everything ... from barrel-bomb chemical weapon attacks in Syria, to involvement in the invasion of eastern Ukraine and all points in between.

It's relevant to Abramovich because he's a Russian gangster and his fellow Russian gangsters run Russia and the Russian government.

 

[1Manchester]

Bertrand should count.

While he did end up making it into the Chelsea senior team for 2 seasons or so (and won a Champions League medal in the process) (1), I would not count him as a sucessful graduate to the first team since Chelsea ended up foolishly selling him to Southampton (shortly after they got rid of Cole as well!). Which is a shame because the club then ended up wasting money on Rahman (and Luis, another player they should have not sold after only a season) before having to get both Alonso and Emerson to solve the issues they had in LB.

Note

(1) I wonder how Buffon, Zlatan and the (Brazillian) Ronaldo feel about this guy winning more Champions Leagues than they have done.

 

[Alex99]

While he did end up making it into the Chelsea senior team for 2 seasons or so (and won a Champions League medal in the process) (1), I would not count him as a sucessful graduate to the first team since Chelsea ended up foolishly selling him to Southampton (shortly after they got rid of Cole as well!). Which is a shame because the club then ended up wasting money on Rahman (and Luis, another player they should have not sold after only a season) before having to get both Alonso and Emerson to solve the issues they had in LB.

Note

(1) I wonder how Buffon, Zlatan and the (Brazillian) Ronaldo feel about this guy winning more Champions Leagues than they have done.

Mate you've written two fecking sentences there and still managed to squeeze in a footnote.

 

[Mint]

Well, international investigators concluded that the missile system that brought down the flight came from a Russia-based military unit. And Russia is being held formally responsible for shooting down the jet by Australia and the Netherlands.

Of course Russia denies it, but then they deny everything ... from barrel-bomb chemical weapon attacks in Syria, to involvement in the invasion of eastern Ukraine and all points in between.

It's relevant to Abramovich because he's a Russian gangster and his fellow Russian gangsters run Russia and the Russian government.

Those investigators are not trustworthy. Russia were blamed immediately. That should seem suspicious. The media are all in it together. Australia are part of the new world order. USA's bitch. They've let USA built a military base there.
Abramovich is wanted by Russian authorities, thats why came to London.

 

[adexkola]

The thing is though, they need to adopt this stratagy a hell of a lot more as well as lobby for the establishment of a B Team in the Football League, because those 2 things are the only way they can increase the numbers of prospects becoming first team players.

This idea can feck off. If your club can't develop youth by offering them opportunities in the first team, then they should look to purchase fully developed players on the market. At top fecking dollar.

 

[Dancfc]

This idea can feck off. If your club can't develop youth by offering them opportunities in the first team, then they should look to purchase fully developed players on the market. At top fecking dollar.

You act like we send them on loan then don't bother with them.

They get a top class education under fantastic coaches, then when the time comes for a loan we have a Champions league winning coach and an ex player who won it all studying their performances religiously and giving them feedback to the point they basically have two manager's, from what ive heard it's a big reason some loanee's don't look for a permanent move for as long as possible (hence the likes of Kalas and Piazon extending their contracts even past the points it's obvious they will never be good enough). Due to our contacts it also allows some players to get loans at levels they wouldn't sniff if they went down the "proper route" for example Patrick Bamford in the PL.

Had say Tottenham and Levy conjured up a system as successful as this, they would be getting showered with plaudits like never before, but because it's us the whole thing is deemed as the ultimate anti christ.

 

[adexkola]

You act like we send them on loan then don't bother with them.

They get a top class education under fantastic coaches, then when the time comes for a loan we have a Champions league winning coach and an ex player who won it all studying their performances religiously and giving them feedback to the point they basically have two manager's, from what ive heard it's a big reason some loanee's don't look for a permanent move for as long as possible (hence the likes of Kalas and Piazon extending their contracts even past the points it's obvious they will never be good enough). Due to our contacts it also allows some players to get loans at levels they wouldn't sniff if they went down the "proper route" for example Patrick Bamford in the PL.

Had say Tottenham and Levy conjured up a system as successful as this, they would be getting showered with plaudits like never before, but because it's us the whole thing is deemed as the ultimate anti christ.

Who?

I'm not a fan of the loan system as is used by you guys but I can stomach it.

A B-team league would only benefit the top clubs who have all these loanees on their books. That I'm staunchly against.

 

[Dancfc]

Who?

I'm not a fan of the loan system as is used by you guys but I can stomach it.

A B-team league would only benefit the top clubs who have all these loanees on their books. That I'm staunchly against.

Eddie Newton (was Di Matteo's assistant in 2012) and Paulo Ferreira.

I personally believe a B team in the lower league's is the way to go, it will be a big benefit to English football and the National team in the long run. Our lads benefited massively from the Checkatrade trophy, but unfortunately i think B team's in that competition was the compromise between putting them in League's 1/2 and not atall.

 

[Fully Fledged]

Why is he not allowed in the country? Has enough assets in the country and not some economic refugee?

Close ties to Russian Government.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Is there any more news on the new manager situation? Thought Conte would be sacked by now tbh.

That said, June is the one full month a year where Club teams generally can slip under the radar and get on with things behind closed doors

 

[coolredwine]

They didn't care about his dirty money before, so why now?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-thought-to-be-caught-up-in-uk-visa-crackdown

 

[coolredwine]

Close ties to Russian Government.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-thought-to-be-caught-up-in-uk-visa-crackdown

 

[Stobzilla]

Are they after anyone from OGC Nice at the minute ? Don't ask me how I know but Guy Laurence is there.

 

[Bojan11]

Amazing they still haven’t sorted out their managerial situation.

 

[coolredwine]

Are they after anyone from OGC Nice at the minute ? Don't ask me how I know but Guy Laurence is there at the minute.

Balotelli?

 

[do.ob]

Are they after anyone from OGC Nice at the minute ? Don't ask me how I know but Guy Laurence is there.

Seri supposedly.

 

[Klopper76]

Amazing they still haven’t sorted out their managerial situation.

You’d think they would’ve sorted it by now what with the World Cup and a shorter summer transfer window.

As of right now I don’t see them making top four next season.

 

[TheeAma]

Lol funny Chelsea is such a threat to alot of you in here. Let's just make this clear the only two clubs in the league that makes more than us is united and City. Whereas united we can justify City have their shady deals but that aside, we haven't been spending Roman's money for a long time now we're self sufficent. We're following the united model, leverage your popularity, sign good sponsorship deals and look to exploit your global fan base.

For most of you who think Roman is bored with us then think that it's his asset and he's a good businessman so he won't let us fall into disarray, the point is that no journalist knows what's roman is thinking none of you do and none of us do. So he canceled a billion dollar stadium plan so what? Spurs gonna be labored with debt repayments and Y'all don't have half of the sponsorship deals or the global status that we have much less trophies.

If we didn't have a massive implosion after January we would have still made top 4 and we still won a trophy for our failure of a season.

 

[cjj]

It's crazy to think that, despite the huge inflation of values that have occurred since 2003 (when RA bought Chelsea), if he sold his stake for £1bn, he'd still lose money.

That's if you even think that the old stadium, 10 year old training ground, and a tissue paper level of sustainability is even worth that much.


For whatever reason, they struggle to stay in the top 4 without constantly overhauling the coaching staff and squad.

 

[TheeAma]

It's crazy to think that, despite the huge inflation of values that have occurred since 2003 (when RA bought Chelsea), if he sold his stake for £1bn, he'd still lose money.

That's if you even think that the old stadium, 10-year-old training ground, and a tissue paper level of sustainability is even worth that much.


For whatever reason, they struggle to stay in the top 4 without constantly overhauling the coaching staff and squad.

Said the club that just started to make Top 4? Bar 2012 when we won the CL we were consistently in the top 4 since Roman took over and we've missed out twice in the last 3 season which is not really like us. And our 10-year-old training ground is still miles ahead of yours being one of the best training grounds in the world. Our infrastructure is one of the best and only the top clubs in Europe can compete with that.

Also our tissue paper sustainability has brought us 16 trophies since 2003, massive commercial deals and we still pay some of the highest wages in Europe and we can still bid high amounts of money. Going forward we will be relying more on our academy to produce players for us to sell an if they can make it in our first team then that's a bonus too. We have sold players for far above market value in recent times and yes we have bought some utter trash, Roman has been distracted this year with divorce, Russia and Trump. The UK is playing like a stubborn child and they are not realizing that with Brexit on the loom and your picking open fights with billionaires where's the investment gonna come from that your gonna desperately need post-brexit.

 

[Foxtrot]

While he did end up making it into the Chelsea senior team for 2 seasons or so (and won a Champions League medal in the process) (1), I would not count him as a sucessful graduate to the first team since Chelsea ended up foolishly selling him to Southampton (shortly after they got rid of Cole as well!). Which is a shame because the club then ended up wasting money on Rahman (and Luis, another player they should have not sold after only a season) before having to get both Alonso and Emerson to solve the issues they had in LB.

Note

(1) I wonder how Buffon, Zlatan and the (Brazillian) Ronaldo feel about this guy winning more Champions Leagues than they have done.

They probably don't even know who he is.

 

[cjj]

Also our tissue paper sustainability has brought us 16 trophies since 2003, massive commercial deals and we still pay some of the highest wages in Europe and we can still bid high amounts of money.

Lol. Just ignore the £1bn RA has put into the club to get that.

Not sure you're up to date on the term "sustainability"

 

[GlastonSpur]

Lol funny Chelsea is such a threat to alot of you in here. Let's just make this clear the only two clubs in the league that makes more than us is united and City. Whereas united we can justify City have their shady deals but that aside, we haven't been spending Roman's money for a long time now we're self sufficent. We're following the united model, leverage your popularity, sign good sponsorship deals and look to exploit your global fan base.

For most of you who think Roman is bored with us then think that it's his asset and he's a good businessman so he won't let us fall into disarray, the point is that no journalist knows what's roman is thinking none of you do and none of us do. So he canceled a billion dollar stadium plan so what? Spurs gonna be labored with debt repayments and Y'all don't have half of the sponsorship deals or the global status that we have much less trophies.

If we didn't have a massive implosion after January we would have still made top 4 and we still won a trophy for our failure of a season.

Actually Arsenal have a bigger income than Chelsea, so that puts you 4th on the Prem income list as of the end of 2016-17. Liverpool were barely behind you at that point in time and will now have surpassed you, so that pushes you down to 5th on the list.

And Spurs will likely match - and perhaps exceed - Chelsea's income inside the next 2 years. Pretty soon you'll be down to 6th place income wise. And that's just in the Prem.

 

[deafepl]

Said the club that just started to make Top 4? Bar 2012 when we won the CL we were consistently in the top 4 since Roman took over and we've missed out twice in the last 3 season which is not really like us. And our 10-year-old training ground is still miles ahead of yours being one of the best training grounds in the world. Our infrastructure is one of the best and only the top clubs in Europe can compete with that.

Also our tissue paper sustainability has brought us 16 trophies since 2003, massive commercial deals and we still pay some of the highest wages in Europe and we can still bid high amounts of money. Going forward we will be relying more on our academy to produce players for us to sell an if they can make it in our first team then that's a bonus too. We have sold players for far above market value in recent times and yes we have bought some utter trash, Roman has been distracted this year with divorce, Russia and Trump. The UK is playing like a stubborn child and they are not realizing that with Brexit on the loom and your picking open fights with billionaires where's the investment gonna come from that your gonna desperately need post-brexit.

Maybe in decades, our training ground will be best and much improved, we have invested heavily in our academy the last few years and follow your academy model to produce players for us to sell as Ed Woodward see it as a cash cow and bring through the academy which we have been doing this since Busby day, Ed Woodward want to see creation of next the Busby's babes and the Class of 92. We were spoiled with SAF being man club, it kind of becoming outdated compared to all top clubs, it took 2 years for Ed Woodward to realize that our structure of the club is outdated, Moye and LVG had too much powers, it have wrecked our club. I'm glad we have been improving this way and accept there won't be next SAF. I hope you'll be doing same and Chelsea can turn it another way, it's not too late before falling to Liverpool that nearly went bankrupt in 2010.

 

[Ecstatic]

Is Laurent Blanc joining Chelsea?

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Is Laurent Blanc joining Chelsea?

There are rumors.
What kind of football brand does he play? Didn't follow PSG much when he was there.

 

[Ecstatic]

There are rumors.
What kind of football brand does he play? Didn't follow PSG much when he was there.

He played for Barcelona, which is his main inspiration.

He wants his team to have a high possession rate and be patient in the build-up.

You can expect a 4-1-2-3 tactical system

 

[Oscar.Z.Acosta]

The history wasn’t that long ago, though I realise younger members do abound here.

Abramovich was part of a cabal of individuals (collectively now known as ‘oligarchs’) that, due to the deliberate collapsing of the economy instigated by the US puppet, Yeltsin, managed to acquire the major industries and infrastructure in the Soviet Union for a song (whilst conveniently, at the same time, robbing the people of the Soviet Union of their birthright as they needed fripperies such as bread and milk so sold their shares in one of the biggest crimes against a whole nation’s population ever recorded: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization_in_Russia).

When Putin poloniumed his way to power he made a deal with these oligarchs (essentially they would pay their proper taxes and dues to Russia and be able to keep their obscenely acquired wealth for backing Putin) and Roman was one of his biggest backers to usurp the vodka-infused imbecile, Yeltsin.

For this, Putin allowed Roman to go and play in London but he was never allowed to fully transfer his wealth to the UK (hence the loan and company structure of Chelsea).

As some will be aware, a few incidents have occurred in the interim and many questions are (finally) being asked about Russian wealth in London. Putin had apparently advised Roman to take Israeli citizenship as he was such an important ‘contact’ and he wanted Roman to still be able to galavant around London Town and advise him of the current SPs (colloquial London slang for starting prices which means the full story).

Where this story goes from here will be interesting. I’m sure Roman now won’t ever invest heavily in Chelsea again but I’m pretty sure if it is ever sold Chelsea will made to pay back every penny to Roman and then some. Essentially, it’s a Russian enclave in west London and Putin likes this, but how much longer it will continue is very much up for debate.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

He played for Barcelona, which is his main inspiration.

He wants his team to have a high possession rate and be patient in the build-up.

You can expect a 4-1-2-3 tactical system

Oh okay.
I don't really think Chelsea have players for possession based football.

 

[Dancfc]

Oh okay.
I don't really think Chelsea have players for possession based football.

Only in CM we don't and we look set to start rectifying that if the Seri rumours are true.

We have quality ball playing defenders, Hazard's obviously suited as is Willy if he stays and Pedro is proven with possession based game. Courtois's game with his feet would be a concern, but unlike Hart he has enough quality for that to be worked around.

 

[Don Alfredo]

Only in CM we don't and we look set to start rectifying that if the Seri rumours are true.

We have quality ball playing defenders, Hazard's obviously suited as is Willy if he stays and Pedro is proven with possession based game. Courtois's game with his feet would be a concern, but unlike Hart he has enough quality for that to be worked around.

I think there are some regulars in your side like Cahill and Alonso who don‘t fit a possession based 4-1-2-3.

Will Luiz be redeemed? I suppose he would want to move because of lack of playing time

 

[Dancfc]

I think there are some regulars in your side like Cahill and Alonso who don‘t fit a possession based 4-1-2-3.

Will Luiz be redeemed? I suppose he would want to move because of lack of playing time

Cahill's got acceptable levels of technique to work as a squad player, he's not Luiz or Christensen but equally ain't Zouma. Alonso i'd wager would be dropped for Emerson, he's got good technique but is suspect agst pressing.

As for Luiz who knows, there's no real rumours he's off (when he left us the first time he was gone by this point), i think he'd be open to staying under Sarri/Blanc.

 

[duffer]

Sky reckon Roman is going nowhere.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...abramovich-has-no-interest-in-selling-chelsea

On another note, we've released a few players:
Mitchell Beeney
Isaac Christie-Davies
Cole DaSilva
Matej Delac
Eduardo
Jordan Houghton
Renedi Masampu
Wallace
Tushaun-Tyreese Walters

The two in bold will go onto have decent careers. Apparently Christie-Davies will follow Solanke and Brewster up to Liverpool.