What is it about Arsenal that makes them so much more of a potentially 'modern, progressive' club than United? It's United who dominate social media, that make far more intuitive signings and who have an unmatched commercial awareness. Granted they have a nice new stadium, but what else? They're in a rut, and have been for quite some time.
When will Arsenal hire a new manager?
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This guy is 29 years old and is achieving amazing results with a pretty rubbish team. Pretty incredible. But surely he is not ready for a high profile job at one of the PL's big four just yet?
Well, Arsenal are already having problems with getting over the last "hurdle" - winning a title (PL) the last couple of years. So the question is are they willing to take a chance or are they willing to just "settle" for CL-spot and the money they get from that, but nothing more.
I think Arsenal needs something like this, a new "Wenger", and by that I mean someone who will stay for a long time and shape this club. But they are going to have to be patient. If it's quick results they want, than they probably won't be interested in him, then it's the "big" names. But there's no guarantees with anyone so if think it would be better with a young manager. But that's what I think, but then again, I don't know much about what's best for Arsenal, since I don't follow/support the team.
Allegri has reached the same CL final as Wenger in 5 years high-level experience vs Arsene's 20 and is winning his 4th scudetto with 2 different teams... I would be careful defining one-horse race leagues you clearly do not know anything about... if Ancelotti (very good), Mancini (good), Ranieri (the tinkerman) and Conte (a young nOOb) are getting 4 PL titles from the last 8 years, it is probable Italian coaches and football environment are on average much better than you would imply. Is not this PL season a one-horse race actually?
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I actually have huge respect for Italian coaches. There is no doubt that Italy produces the best coaches, followed by Argentina and Germany. Italian coaches have been at the very top of the game for years, going way back to the days of the legendary Trapattoni. English coaches are an embarrassment when compared to Italian ones.
However that doesnt change the fact that the Serie A is a one horse race, with no other team besides Juventus having any realistic chance of winning it, and this was the case at the very start of the season, not February or March!!
And certainly next season it will be Juventus winning the title again, anyone can make that prediction even before a ball is kicked!! I am serious when I say that even David Moyes could win a Scudetto if he somehow became manager of Juventus!!
Unlike the PL, it is just not a competitive league, which makes you wonder, what on earth has happened to Inter and AC Milan??? Or even Roma?? Aren't they supposed to be big clubs?
(Side note - I am seriously interested in how Italy always produces the best coaches??)
Hopefully this thing pushes Allegri to leave Juventus and join us 
http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/723/ser...ead-juventus-boss-allegri-rants-at-bonucci-in
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David Moyes, but you want to compare Moyes with Jardim, even Marco Silva and Paulo Sousa are better than him.
Jardim is 10 times better than any English manager, and Serie A not competitive? Well, If you look at least to Juventus, Napoli and Roma and they would be top 6 hands down, the italian coaches are 50 times better than the ones you have in the EPL, Ranieri who is an mediocre coach was champion last year.
The competitive side of the EPL is more on the phisical side of the game, tactically is the most poor from the top 5 leagues.
Napoli and Roma would be top six in the PL? Based on what grounds? You rate them higher than ourselves, Arsenal, City??
I said they would fight for the top 6, I am not saying they would automatically be.
But you do concede that Juventus would fight for the first place no?
Based on the quality of Roma squad and in the case of Napoli because they have an top manager.
Juventus would easily qualify for top four or three but I would not be certain that they would be title winners or contenders.
However I would admit that Italian coaches are the best in the world and I am really amazed by how they tend to do so well overall, even in other leagues. I don't know the background but for some reason the country just produces excellent coaches.
Lol where are you typing from, the north korea? There are no godzillas beyond the A57 ehehe. Cave! (=Beware!)
So you don't agree that Italian coaches are of a very high quality? You think they are shit? Lol
Italian coaches are great. The Italian league is shit. It's a one horse race. Anyone could win a title with Juventus, it doesn't matter who is coaching them. That's my point. It doesn't mean Italian coaches in general aren't good.
There was an article on the Guardian about the quality of Italian coaches last friday I guess, talking about Coverciano, but the main reason probably is because they have decades of being at the highest level and they love tactics, for instance, the coaches I admire more related with italian football, one of them is Zdenek Zeman who returned yesterday at Pescara last placed and they won 5:0.
He is Czech but all his carrer is related with Italy, also like Sacchi and Sarri, this for ones who look more to quality of football, because if you want to look to those who won a lot you have Trappattoni, Cappello, Lippi, Ancellotti.
And it is not only Italy, Germany has lot of progressive coaches, Argentina has all types of coaches, Spain and Portugal do have some nice coaches too.
In terms of producing high quality coaches, Italy is first for me, Germany and Argentina are joint second. Spain and Portugal are some way below them. The only world class Portuguese manager is Mourinho. Others like Villas-Boas and Jardim are not quite on the same level.
Italy produces coaches in the same way that Brazil produces players. It's an endless conveyor belt of quality talent. England is not even anywhere close.
Their best choices in my opinion are Sampaoli and Emeri.
But Portugal is not only Mourinho, actually for me he is not even my favourite at the moment, carrer Mourinho yes, the present one no.
My favourite one is at Shaktar Donetsk now, Paulo Fonseca, then we have Jardim at Monaco, Jorge Jesus at Sporting, former Benfica coach, also Vitor Pereira who is now working in Munich 1860, Sousa at Fiorentina, Silva at Hull and of course Mourinho.
Others who I do not like so much are AVB and one who is going to play against Juve, Espirito Santo at Porto, who worked in Valencia.
But then I have an different concept of football, I do not measure quality of coaches for the number of titles, because if it was that I would have to say we only have Mourinho and at an lesser extent AVB.
To talk about an shortlist for Arsenal here is my top 5:
Emery - Tuchel - Sarri - Sampaoli - Pochettino.
Emery - Tuchel - Sarri - Sampaoli - Pochettino.
Suspect Barcelona will have 1st dibs, and then Arsenal can have a slightly shorter list.
Van Gaal would be the ideal replacement, I can just imagine the fancams after his performances
Of the list from @SCP, i think we'll look at Sampaoli, maybe Tuchel and possibly Sarri for Enrique's replacement.
Yes this shortlist can be applied to Barcelona too.
I don't think Arsenal will skimp when it comes to a new manager - they'll get someone big, and they'll give him a large amount to spend...
I think it happens in the summer. And I think Wenger will be forced out if he doesn't step down.
I think it happens in the summer. And I think Wenger will be forced out if he doesn't step down.
Can't see him leaving if they win the FA Cup. With the way the draw has been going they might just do it. Wenger's a survivor, it's what he does best. He'll find a way to latch on.
He should think he can deliver no more than some F.A. Cups to Arsenal and retire.
Chances are they are going to face 2 of the top 6 in the semi final and final. I think Spurs might choke against them but I think the rest would beat them.
I hope Chelsea beat you because i can't really see you losing a single game until the end of the season. You look great.
If Arsene stays, he should continue to play a 343.
With a few signings, such as a striker, centre midfielder, centre back and wing backs, they could really challenge.
With a few signings, such as a striker, centre midfielder, centre back and wing backs, they could really challenge.
Are they going to be able to get the calibre of player required though, with no CL football on the table, possibly losing Sanchez/Ozil and the club's usual reluctance to spend big? I think it could be a challenging summer for Arsenal.
No-one's said that before in the last decade.
2019
So now he has to announce something for sure, as the season is over.
Haha, true.
It all depends on Sanchez imo. They're fecked if he goes.
Yeah if he does stay he needs some new signings.
I think he needs to sign a new striker, 2 cm's, 2 wingbacks, 3 cb's, 1 gk, and maybe 2 wide forwards.
Basically a new team.
ExactlyBasically a new team.
Surely the cup win should guarantee him at least new 2 year contract
We desperately need a striker and a left wing back. Apart from that we're doing ok, especially in numbers. That obviously changes if any of Sanchez, Özil or the Ox go.
One thing, Arsenal won the FA by Playing 3 at the back. Chelsea won the league by playing 3 at the back. Can we somehow credit LVG for respective succeses?