You what? Half your squad players would start for United. You often have hundreds of millions on the bench. A City fan complaining about their squad depth...Impossible with this squad. We don't have the quality to do both in the same year. The best way to do it is what we are doing now. Win the League twice in a row, than go all out for the CL next year and miss the League. Than back to League and so on. People over estimate the current City squad, making it like some sort of juggernaut all time great side filled with iconic players..... If we had made it into the CL Semi and had to play Ajax for two games, we might have dropped points and lost the PL. Look at the league/CL double of the last 10-15 years. We are looking at teams that include Ronaldinho/Eto, Messi/Iniesta/Xavi, Ronaldo/Tevez/Rooney/Rio/Vidic, Neuer/Ribery/Robben/Basten and so on. There is no way our squad is on par with those mentioned.
Is there a year when United, Chelsea or even Blackburn won the league that your statement above wouldn't hold true ? Obviously not when Leicester won and to an extent, when Arsenal have wonEven the 100-point season is not that big a deal, as 90% of their games are against teams that have far less funding, who they should beat.
This is all correct.I hate to say but they're the best of all time. Drop them in any PL season and they win the league. Head to head they're tactically way ahead of the United/Chelsea/Arsenal teams you're comparing them to. They'd simply over run the possession against any of those teams.
feck knows how they've managed to fluff the CL twice because they've been the best in Europe for 2 seasons now.
Are you kidding? We have 2 champions League finalists, 2 Europa League finalists and Liverpool also made the CL final last season. At the top (where it matters the most) the league as strong as ever.The league is at it's lowest standard for many years. The gap between 6th & 20th was 50 pts. The gap between 6th & 1st was 32 pts. Teams from 3rd to sixth have a win rate hovering around the 50% mark. There are many more teams outside the top 6 than in recent years that are extremely limited. We now have a worrying trend where these teams refuse to leave their own half in both their home & away fixtures to City.
It has been a perfect storm for City as they have continued investing heavily into a steadily declining league. I would not be surprised to see them break 100 pts next season as i don't see massive improvements coming from any of the other top 6 teams.
Where a team is ranked very much depends on the quality of opposition faced. Amassing huge points totals in an uncompetitive league should not put you into the running to be the best PL team.
Dunno about that. I mean they are up there but how are they tactically way ahead of those teams? Because they dominate possession by passing the ball 400 times between their CB’s?I hate to say but they're the best of all time. Drop them in any PL season and they win the league. Head to head they're tactically way ahead of the United/Chelsea/Arsenal teams you're comparing them to. They'd simply over run the possession against any of those teams.
feck knows how they've managed to fluff the CL twice because they've been the best in Europe for 2 seasons now.
It's way to simple to compare it to head to head games and even then it's near impossible.I hate to say but they're the best of all time. Drop them in any PL season and they win the league. Head to head they're tactically way ahead of the United/Chelsea/Arsenal teams you're comparing them to. They'd simply over run the possession against any of those teams.
feck knows how they've managed to fluff the CL twice because they've been the best in Europe for 2 seasons now.
As I said, I think the quality of football played by City is the best ever in the PL, without doubt.Is there a year when United, Chelsea or even Blackburn won the league that your statement above wouldn't hold true ? Obviously not when Leicester won and to an extent, when Arsenal have won.
I wouldn’t say it’s impossible. The issue Guardiola has is he only has one game plan. It’s a very good game plan but sometimes it needs to change depending on the opposition. That has caught him out the last few years.Impossible with this squad. We don't have the quality to do both in the same year. The best way to do it is what we are doing now. Win the League twice in a row, than go all out for the CL next year and miss the League. Than back to League and so on. People over estimate the current City squad, making it like some sort of juggernaut all time great side filled with iconic players..... If we had made it into the CL Semi and had to play Ajax for two games, we might have dropped points and lost the PL. Look at the league/CL double of the last 10-15 years. We are looking at teams that include Ronaldinho/Eto, Messi/Iniesta/Xavi, Ronaldo/Tevez/Rooney/Rio/Vidic, Neuer/Ribery/Robben/Basten and so on. There is no way our squad is on par with those mentioned.
Probably the best ever, 198 points in 2 seasons is next level.
That being said we aren't all steamrolled by a family of multi-billionaires, the achievements of United and Arsenal were self made.
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This is why I wanted Liverpool to win the league over City - watching match of the day last night they said they thought this was the best side of the Premier League era. If they hadn't won it back to back then they wouldn't be so sure.
I'd take this over the potential reaction to Liverpool's win.
For me, our treble side still triumphs - but I'm biased.
The top of the league isn't strong though. We were 2nd 19 pts behind City last season. This season Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea & Utd have all been poor. Liverpool have only been competitive due to having the luckiest ever PL season.Are you kidding? We have 2 champions League finalists, 2 Europa League finalists and Liverpool also made the CL final last season. At the top (where it matters the most) the league as strong as ever.
The Huddersfields and Derbys (07/08) don't account for how strong a league is.
So is that also true for the English sides in the late 00s? Were lucky enough to miss Barcelona and the great Italian sides of the early 00s?The top of the league isn't strong though. We were 2nd 19 pts behind City last season. This season Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea & Utd have all been poor. Liverpool have only been competitive due to having the luckiest ever PL season.
Having 4 finalists in Europe is more down to the super powers fading rather than the PL being so strong.
The question is though is if City are the best PL team. It's arbitrary to say that City are a better PL team than Utd as Utd never reached 100 pts. We never reached 100 pts due to the league being much more competitive than it is now.
Agreed. It doesnt matter anymore. Like comparing the newer generation of athletes to those in the 80s.The best side of the financially doped era. Comparisons to sides before this are irrelevant really.