Which 2 midfielders would you prefer we sign ?

Anderson to replace Casemiro. I'd also go for Stiller and Smit all in the same window. The latter two won't be nearly as expensive as Anderson. All fully fundable if we qualify for the CL and sell Ugarte imo.
 
Insightful.

So simple, yet still no names.
We need a deep lying #6, a true #6, who can last 90min and not injury prone, so tell me anyone less than 70m who is within our budget. I believe no more than 2 names surface.

We need another #6 to backup the 1st one, if having the ability to play box2box to backup/replace Minoee. The 3 of them will split the 60-games season.

If Anderson is the 2nd name, then we need to sell Ugarte to raise money. A 4th MF can be raised to the squad, I doubt we can afford the money nor game time to keep 1, then perhaps Academy is the best place to go (or someone's Academy)
 
Need to make waves and go for both of them as that would be making a serious statement of intent

It's not impossible that we go nuclear on the midfield like we did with the attack last summer. If we go out and spend 150-200 million on the midfield it'll have been fixed for the first time really since Fergie retired. It's about time!
 
It's not impossible that we go nuclear on the midfield like we did with the attack last summer. If we go out and spend 150-200 million on the midfield it'll have been fixed for the first time really since Fergie retired. It's about time!
I think we will go nuclear haha! Ineos are desperate to be back on top, they'll have a new manager that needs backing... new stadium is a distant dream atm and the squad look in good shape for the first time in a long time.

Last year we were trying to sign Baleba, that money is still there + sales. We will spilt our signings before July (this season) and after (next season) to balance our books, plus next seasons CL income (80m+ guranteed).
 
It's not impossible that we go nuclear on the midfield like we did with the attack last summer. If we go out and spend 150-200 million on the midfield it'll have been fixed for the first time really since Fergie retired. It's about time!
Reckon it would take around £175-£180m for both, shame these deals aren't independent of each other like they reported about Baleba. Maybe it's because we see them as different profiles of midfielder.
 
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Although both pretty similar Camavinga and Baleba. Just thing the energy, strength and ball carrying ability really beefs up the midfield and though form and injury not been great between them, think they have the highest ceiling and may now be the best priced. Saying that Wharton, Anderson, Tonali....be happy with any of them
 
Although both pretty similar Camavinga and Baleba. Just thing the energy, strength and ball carrying ability really beefs up the midfield and though form and injury not been great between them, think they have the highest ceiling and may now be the best priced.
These type of midfielders are my favourite. Comfortable with ball at their feet(good dribblers), press resistant ball carriers. Camavinga is too injury prone unfortunately, would be too much of a risk(that is why Real probably wants to get rid of him). That leaves Baleba. Then pair him with someone who can pass, dictate tempo like Anderson or Wharton and we can cook.
 
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Anderson to replace Casemiro. I'd also go for Stiller and Smit all in the same window. The latter two won't be nearly as expensive as Anderson. All fully fundable if we qualify for the CL and sell Ugarte imo.
It would add some passing and technical ability to our midfield. Yes please
 
One of Anderson/Tonali + Baleba at a reasonable price is my bet.

Either one of Anderson/Tonali would be significant upgrades to our CM.
It could be the time to sign Baleba for a favorable fee, but of course there’s risks with him considering his current season.

Include Mainoo and add a fourth option (e.g. Joao Gomes or similar price range), and our CM should be set for years.
 
No one have any doubts about Baleba? What makes you think he‘ll go back magically to his 24/25 form?
 
Probably one of Anderson/Tonali plus Wharton for me. Think that gives a decent mix.
 
Ideal world, Camavinga and Bruno G.

More realistic I would go for Anderson and Tonali.
 
No one have any doubts about Baleba? What makes you think he‘ll go back magically to his 24/25 form?
I have doubts about him, however if we could get him for a similar fee to Ugarte/Fred I feel less concerned
 
Bruno G, Tonali, Anderson.

Survival of the fittest. 3 men, one place.

Baleba do not want. Mans not hot anymore.
 
Currently, the only natural 6 in the market is Baleba.
It's probably the reason we've been all in for him up until recently, and one of the reasons I think we'll probably get him, despite everyone's doubts.

Wharton is not an ideal partner for Mainoo and Anderson and Tonali are also in competition as they are more hybrid 8s. With the defence and full backs we have, I don't see this ever working. We'd be ripped apart. So, even if we get one of these names, we still need a proper holding midfielder.

On the other hand, if we're not signing Anderson, who's been truly standout this season, then next up has to be Mateus Fernandes. We really shouldn't end the window with neither of these two ending up here.

Personal pick would be Fernandes, and while not ideal, but tactically necessary, Baleba. Probably need a third, cheaper option that can play as a 6, too.
 
Ideal world, Camavinga and Bruno G.

More realistic I would go for Anderson and Tonali.
The injuries are the biggest flag with Camavinga, pity we didn't sign Guimaraes when he was at Lyon as his age puts INEOS off now. My gut feeling is that it's Anderson/Tonali and would say most likely Baleba/Fernandes
 
Who would you pair Wharton with when one of those two needs a rest due to big game coming up
Fair question, and I suppose it would depend on the opposition and the rest of the team.

If we are worried about the midfield getting overrun, should it be Mainoo and Wharton together, then putting legs in and around them could be an answer. Mount could be asked to help the midfield more from one of the wings, or one of the fullbacks could be asked to tuck into midfield instead of overlapping when we have the ball. None would be perfect, but what football team is - let alone one that is resting players?

We will be having a big reset in the engine room of the team next season, so we will likely have to be relatively patient as we work out the best variations no matter who we bring in.
 
The more I think about it. the more sense it makes to risk it and go for high potential players. The Veron ,Pogba's, Matic, even Casemiro until this season never really works for us. We simply have a better luck with hungrier young players.


---------------Nathan De Cat------------Mamadou Sangare--------------Ayyoub Bouaddi--------

I think all them 3 would cost the same as Elliot Anderson or there abouts.
 
Bruno G, Tonali, Anderson.

Survival of the fittest. 3 men, one place.

Baleba do not want. Mans not hot anymore.
Hell would freeze over before Newcastle sell their two best midfielders in this summer transfer window
 
No one have any doubts about Baleba? What makes you think he‘ll go back magically to his 24/25 form?

Why would it have to be "magical" for Baleba to return to his 24/25 form? It's not as though he had one great month -- a great season is an impressive thing. And it's not as though he's an aging star trying to turn back the clock -- he's still only 22 years old. Very few professional athletes avoid a stumble, even a season-long stumble, after a brilliant start to their career.

That said, Baleba isn't quite it for me, although if we had to settle for him I'd be delighted. Anderson and Tonali, however, would be a powerful statement of intent. And even if spending whatever it took to bring in those two meant no new LB for now, make it so.
 
Absolutely push the boat out for Anderson, Carrick could be our secret weapon to get him over the line. After that I’d probably go with Baleba if we can get a sensible price, which I have my doubts about.
 
Anderson is the perfect Casemiro replacement.

if not.. we should have a nibble at Tonali if Newcastle have to sell.
 
The more I think about it. the more sense it makes to risk it and go for high potential players. The Veron ,Pogba's, Matic, even Casemiro until this season never really works for us. We simply have a better luck with hungrier young players.


---------------Nathan De Cat------------Mamadou Sangare--------------Ayyoub Bouaddi--------

I think all them 3 would cost the same as Elliot Anderson or there abouts.

Imo I don't think Sangare is good enough on the ball for United; his passing when under pressure seems really sloppy.

Bouaddi and De Cat both seem to have lots of potential, but I think you'd only take one player of that kind of profile as a 3rd midfielder, mostly for cup games initially, behind 2 slightly more ready players. There's also players like Smit, Dragojevic and Siltanen to consider within the same bracket of player. Not easy to call which would ultimately have the highest ceiling.
 
Why would it have to be "magical" for Baleba to return to his 24/25 form? It's not as though he had one great month -- a great season is an impressive thing. And it's not as though he's an aging star trying to turn back the clock -- he's still only 22 years old. Very few professional athletes avoid a stumble, even a season-long stumble, after a brilliant start to their career.

That said, Baleba isn't quite it for me, although if we had to settle for him I'd be delighted. Anderson and Tonali, however, would be a powerful statement of intent. And even if spending whatever it took to bring in those two meant no new LB for now, make it so.
The writing off of Baleba on here is laughable for such a young player and the same will happen if Anderson has a bad run of form....Unbelievable!
 
Needs to be mobile, high energy midfielders. Ederson, Anderson and Garner/Tyler Adams.
 
The writing off of Baleba on here is laughable for such a young player and the same will happen if Anderson has a bad run of form....Unbelievable!
I'm only writing him off at a crazy pricetag, certainly not against the signing for around £60m mark
 
I'm only writing him off at a crazy pricetag, certainly not against the signing for around £60m mark
Well if you think he is worth 60mil quid why have you stated it would be a nightmare scenario if we signed him?
 
Well if you think he is worth 60mil quid why have you stated it would be a nightmare scenario if we signed him?
Two questions

Do you think Brighton will sell him for that?

Why do we think he‘s magically going to find his best form if he moves to us?
 
We ideally need 2 no. 6 who are very good on the ball and have athletic attributes to help cover ground.

Tonali and Anderson seem an ideal pairing and if we can't get Anderson then matheus Fernandes will be an excellent option. His defensive stats seem on point and he'll be well capable of sitting in as a 6 when needed.
 
Two questions

Do you think Brighton will sell him for that?

Why do we think he‘s magically going to find his best form if he moves to us?
I do not know what Brighton would sell him for but if he is as bad as what he is being portrayed on here then if they could get 25mil then they would be doing well.

I would say that so long as there is no hidden injury concerns there is more likelihood that he will show his 23/24 ,24/25 form given his age then this seasons form as I personally think he may be pissed off that his club did not entertain the idea of selling him to Utd.

Now we can look at that in a couple of ways and say that it is unprofessional and we should not entertain that sort of attitude or that we are his dream club and he would leave everything on the pitch when he wears a Utd shirt.

Either way he has physical characteristics that I think make him a perfect DM for a top club and that is why I would love him at our club.
 
I do not know what Brighton would sell him for but if he is as bad as what he is being portrayed on here then if they could get 25mil then they would be doing well.

I would say that so long as there is no hidden injury concerns there is more likelihood that he will show his 23/24 ,24/25 form given his age then this seasons form as I personally think he may be pissed off that his club did not entertain the idea of selling him to Utd.

Now we can look at that in a couple of ways and say that it is unprofessional and we should not entertain that sort of attitude or that we are his dream club and he would leave everything on the pitch when he wears a Utd shirt.

Either way he has physical characteristics that I think make him a perfect DM for a top club and that is why I would love him at our club.
Brighton will demand in excess of 60 million for his potential.

If he is indeed playing poorly on purpose as you speculate, we definitely should steer clear of him.
 
Needs to be mobile, high energy midfielders. Ederson, Anderson and Garner/Tyler Adams.
Well Ederson sounds like he is gonna join Atletico and Garner has only just signed deal at Everton. I can't decide whether Adams would be a good signing
 
Brighton will demand in excess of 60 million for his potential.

If he is indeed playing poorly on purpose as you speculate, we definitely should steer clear of him.
So you think his potential alone is worth 60mil?
And why would we steer clear from him if he will do as I stated for us?