Which of our attackers gets relegated to the bench with the move to 4ATB?

I would play 442 with Amad as winger and Bruno as wide midfielder and tuck in to form midfield 3.

Keeper
Back four
Amad - Casemiro/Ugarte - Mainoo - Bruno
Mbeumo - Sesko

I like Amad and Mbeumo as attacker more than Cunha.

But in reality it would be Bruno plays as no 10 and either Sesko or Amad will be dropped.
 
After today it's got to be Cunha. But he'll go up and down in form as attackers do. He can rotate and compete with Sesko or either of the wings
 
Bruno should be the only guaranteed starter. The rest can rotate based on form.
 
Amad is 23. If you had to bet on who we would look back in 5 years and say "wow, we had a non-Bruno world class player anywhere on the team" who would you even bet on 2nd? Have to be brave to pick anyone else.

So that probably leaves the sub being Sesko or Cunha. I think we have to see if Mbeumo and Amad can play together in a 4 at the back system.

For the next manager, I think with our squad, the best best is a 4-2-2-2 type thing:

-----------------Sesko/Cunha---Mbuemo----------
--------------------------------------------------Amad--------
----Bruno/Mount----------Mainoo----------------------
----------------------------DM---------------------------------
Shaw------------------------------------------------------------
-----------Licha/Heaven------RCB-----------Mazraoui/Dalot

Play Shaw a lot until he breaks down and hopefully Dorgu or Amass has developed and can take the job when the time comes. No idea what the new manager will think of Yoro, Heaven and De Ligt, as they all feel like the types to have some managers rate them and others no.
 
No one!
If Mount and Zirkzee are moved on, we’re left with 4 players for 3 attacking spots, which is healthy rotation rather than someone being “relegated” to the bench. If anything, we still need another natural left winger.
 
Cunha ------- Sesko ---- Mbuemo
Bruno-------Amad
Baleba
Dorgu---Martinez/Heaven---De Ligt---Mazraoui
Lammens
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An idea to fit our key attackers in. Obvious issue is the DM, where I've wished in Baleba for now. Amad can drift out to the wing from time to time, as Mbuemo cuts in. His workrate wouldn't be a problem, and he actively seeks the ball and runs with it, which we're missing in midfield right now. Imagine something like Bernado SIlva's role at City in his peak years. I've given up on my pipedream of seeing Mazraoui tried at DM, but this formation could transition to something like this in attack:

-------------Sesko---Mbuemo
Dorgu----Cunha----Bruno------Amad
--Baleba----------Mazraoui
Martinez---De Ligt
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Cunha will naturally drift inside, so Dorgu would provide the width on the left. The DM can cover the space behind an overlapping Dorgu and Mazraoui could invert into midfield to support the DM when Amad goes wider. Could be nonsense with obvious issues, but it's in my head now. :lol:
 
Nobody gets relegated to the bench. We just have enough that we can rotate a bit depending on form so everyone should get plenty of games.

Though we shouldn't mess with Sesko now IMO. He should be starting up top. Cunha, Amad and Mbeumo should rotate between the two wings.
 
It's quite a difficult decision, form will be a big factor but there's an argument for everyone to be dropped.

Cunha is the one who stands out the most as unlikely to fit in a front 3 or as one of the 3 behind the striker, the amount of space he has to operate is less than as one of the 10s in the 343.

Sesko is great when he's scoring, and does bring good hold up ability, but he can get isolated and has been dropped to play a false 9 already this season.

Amad and Mbeumo are very similar, and want to take up similar positions, so could end up getting in each other's way, so it may be necessary to rotate those 2 individually based on form.

Then there's the likes of Mount, who isn't as penetrative as any of the above guys, but brings so much to the team off the ball, he's our most intelligent forward, at least in terms of footballing intelligence.
 
If we're going to go back to 4321 then one of amad/mbeumo/cunha is getting dropped. If cunha can adapt to playing wider then he can take the left attacking spot and the right attacking spot is Mbuemo/amad. Maybe mbeumo can play left as a more traditional winger and focus on crossing? In which case Cunha gets dropped.

Whatever front 4 we choose, we still have the issue of an aging Case and Urgate as our only out and out CMs. Midfield continues to be the issue.

I can see the the logic of amorim's system, even if it was coincidental, playing another CB instead of Urgate in order for us to have all our attackers on the field. It didn't work well but swapping a CB for Urgate in CM and dropping amad at LWB for a more typical LB makes us even more toothless.

One solid DM probably would have made amorim's system work. It will make a 433 work too as we can bring mainoo in with Bruno dropping a bit deeper. Need 2 of them if we're playing 4321 and giving Bruno more freedom.

In short, doesn't matter what formation we play or who we drop until we sign a decent midfielder. When Solskjaer took over in 2018, we had a midfield of Matic, Herrera, Pogba with Fred and Mctominay as backups. Since then we've signed a past his best Casimero and Urgate to replace all those 5.
 
It’s unfortunately Amad.

He’ll get plenty game time in rotation with Mbeumo, Bruno, Cuhna though.

It’s a good problem to have Mbeumo is excellent and it’s his position to lose but Amad is still young and may very quickly bench him. Two top players for every position is what we need especially if ee get back to Europe.
 
I would bench Sesko for now and go with a classic 4-4-2 formation with Mbeumo and Cunha up top. Let's get back to basics and some good old fashioned attacking football.

Lammens
Dalot Yoro Martinez Shaw
Amad Casemiro Bruno Dorgu
Mbeumo Cunha
 
We better turn good very quickly because it’s one thing sitting on the bench for a very good team, but one that is struggling? I can see the likes of Amad getting disillusioned.

Its not just in attack though, when we have our CBs back, the likes of Yoro and maybe Heaven may be back on the bench, and in all likelihood one will not play at all each week.
 
We have 4 attackers (Cunha, Mbeumo, Sesko and Dialo) for 3 positions. We can rotate them without issues. City and Chelsea have around 8 and rotate them without issues.
 
Steve 007 said:
It’s unfortunately Amad.

He’ll get plenty game time in rotation with Mbeumo, Bruno, Cuhna though.

It’s a good problem to have Mbeumo is excellent and it’s his position to lose but Amad is still young and may very quickly bench him. Two top players for every position is what we need especially if ee get back to Europe.
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Amad is better than Mbeumo or Cunha.
 
I think it’s worth trying to see if Mbeumo can lift the CF role, as that would solve pretty much all of our problems and give us a very strong attack.

It is a problem that Mbeumo and Amad are best suited for the same position but they are probably our two best attackers, so we have to find a way to fit them both. With Amad on the right and Mbeumo in a more fluid CF role they could continue their good chemistry and link-up play.
 
TheRedHearted said:
——Mbuemo—-
Fernandes Amad
——Mainoo——
Ugarte Casemiro

Is interesting
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That's the worst I have seen yet. Not only do you drop Cunha AND Sesko just to shoehorn an utterly dissapointing Mainoo into the team you also put Fernandes into a position he isn't great in and play Mbeumo as the number 9.
 
RedCoffee said:
I would bench Sesko for now and go with a classic 4-4-2 formation with Mbeumo and Cunha up top. Let's get back to basics and some good old fashioned attacking football.

Lammens
Dalot Yoro Martinez Shaw
Amad Casemiro Bruno Dorgu
Mbeumo Cunha
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Which would quickly end up looking like this after kick-off...

Lammens
Yoro Martinez Shaw
Dalot Casemiro Bruno Dorgu
Amad Mbeumo Cunha

So basically Amorim's system with Amad pushed to one of the front three and replaced with dalot at RWB. Sacrificing a striker and adding another defender to do so.
 
Personally haven’t been that impressed with Mbeumo overall. Cunha is playing himself into form with some recent goals and Amad looks in good form. I’d have Mbeumo coming on as in impact sub at the moment.
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
Amad and Mbuemo start for me either side of Sesko with Bruno behind, Mount and Cunha rotate after that.
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This. It isn't really that complicated. That should be default configuration, with Mbuemo and Amad rotating and Cunha/Mount used depending on tactics in game.

Cunha is in very poor form so I'd rather play him up front to rotate Sesko, he still has an eye for goal.
 
Cunha doesn't really deserve to always start. Neither does Sesko. So maybe Cunha - Sesko. They are so different though, false nine vs. immature out-and-out striker
 
I wouldn't have said this a few weeks ago but I can see Dorgu ending up as the left wing option with Shaw at fullback.

Because he'll actually play the role and you know you're getting huge workrate from him.

Cunha will always drift as he's a central player. You don't pay £60 million for Mbeumo becasue of how he performed on the right and switch him to the left. Amad I don't recall ever starting a game on the left.
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
Personally haven’t been that impressed with Mbeumo overall. Cunha is playing himself into form with some recent goals and Amad looks in good form. I’d have Mbeumo coming on as in impact sub at the moment.
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This is ridiculous. We've been a lot worse without Mbuemo and he's our top scorer. He's quick/strong and has a goal in him. Not saying he's been incredible but we're nowhere near good enough to leave this guy on the bench. Cunha has been awful recently
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
Amad and Mbuemo start for me either side of Sesko with Bruno behind, Mount and Cunha rotate after that.
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I’d play Bruno deeper when we have so few midfielders anyway, especially when it frees the 10 role for Cunha, Mount or even Amad.

I was skeptical at first but I think moving Bruno into a CM role, if just for a short time, is something Amorim got right.
 
Jev said:
I think it’s worth trying to see if Mbeumo can lift the CF role, as that would solve pretty much all of our problems and give us a very strong attack.

It is a problem that Mbeumo and Amad are best suited for the same position but they are probably our two best attackers, so we have to find a way to fit them both. With Amad on the right and Mbeumo in a more fluid CF role they could continue their good chemistry and link-up play.
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I think it's worth playing players in positions they've played for years and are actually good at.

Mbeumo is a RW, Amad is a RW. They rotate - it's as simple as that. Not every player will play every single game and we need squad depth with actual quality. 2 players for every position.

The drawback to Amorin and his stupid formation leaving is we were building a squad exclusively for that formation and we now have no LW, bar perhaps Cunha (although i'm not sure that's his best position in truth).

Our strongest X11 is a 4-2-3-1 (Lammens, Maz, De Ligt, Martinez, Shaw, Mainoo, Ugarte, Bruno, Cunha, Mbeumo, Sesko).
 
I can't understand the logic of putting Amad or Mbeumo out of position at number 10 or on the left wing/striker.

They have hardly ever played there in their whole careers.

It would just lead to an unbalanced team and poor individual performances.

Both are best on the right wing, cutting inside onto their left foot.

Mbeumo could start there, and then Amad comes on after 60 minutes. Amad starts the next game, and so on.
 
On current form, Cunha has to go to the bench unless we are going to play Bruno further back. Cunha just doesn't work at a LW. Let Amad and Mbuemo fight for the RW spot and the other goes to LW.
 
Mbeumo was rough prior to AFCON and Cunha had been shite for weeks now. Think Dorgu gets moved to the left wing and Amad comes into the RW spot. Both the new comers can fight it out from the bench.
 
Godfather said:
That's the worst I have seen yet. Not only do you drop Cunha AND Sesko just to shoehorn an utterly dissapointing Mainoo into the team you also put Fernandes into a position he isn't great in and play Mbeumo as the number 9.
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cunha needs a rest, Fernandes can definitely play i that position, Sesko can come on in a super sub and yeah would rather have more men in midfield. Cunha is better off up front anyway so him and Sesko now need to fight it out
 
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