Which team was the biggest underdog to win a World Cup?

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Topic as above.

If there is any.

I only know in international football (Euro) Greece 2004 was the biggest underdog to win but how about world cup?

Edit: How could I miss out Denmark 92 for Euro? They didnt qualify directly.
 
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West Germany1954. Beat Hungary in final 3-2 having previously lost 8-3 in group stage.
 

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Italy in 1982. They went thru from the group stages without winning any games. No one expected them to get thru a group that had Argentina and Brazil. Yet beat them they did. And beat West Germany 3-1 in the Final.
 

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Not sure there's anything on the scale of Greece 04 or Denmark 92 but both Uruguay 1950 and West Germany 1954 (especially the former) were less heralded teams that won the final against overwhelming favorites. In Uruguay 1950's case that win caused real and longstanding national trauma in Brazil.
 

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Only West Germany in 54 counts really. Biggest upset in the history of football. A bunch of amateurs beat one of the greatest ever football sides, this is why football is the biggest sport in the world.
 

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Italy in 1982. They went thru from the group stages without winning any games. No one expected them to get thru a group that had Argentina and Brazil. Yet beat them they did. And beat West Germany 3-1 in the Final.
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Are they that bad ?
No, they weren’t that bad. Three were 3 Italian clubs in UEFA’s top 5 ranking… And the only important Italy players who weren’t from those three clubs were Totti and Toni. (Grosso too became important during the tournament)… As far as Italy goes, the 82 is much more of an unlikely success than 06.

 

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No, they weren’t that bad. Three were 3 Italian clubs in UEFA’s top 5 ranking… And the only important Italy players who weren’t from those three clubs were Totti and Toni. (Grosso too became important during the tournament)… As far as Italy goes, the 82 is much more of an unlikely success than 06.

I know this is nothing new, but seeing these rankings like this really highlights how quickly Italian football has gone downhill.

From constant challengers to no CLs in 12 years with no end in sight.
 

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Are they that bad ?
No, they had top players.

In 1982 Italy also had Scirea, Zoff, Tardelli, Cabrini, Gentile, and Bruno Conti...all of them top and highly rated in their respective position, it's just that Brazil was ultra favorite to win that WC.

But in terms of quality not surprise, except the games against Brazil.
 

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it must be Uruguay of 1950 winning it in Brazil..
Not sure there's anything on the scale of Greece 04 or Denmark 92 but both Uruguay 1950 and West Germany 1954 (especially the former) were less heralded teams that won the final against overwhelming favorites. In Uruguay 1950's case that win caused real and longstanding national trauma in Brazil.
You should look up the definition of underdog or read up on football history.

Uruguay was unbeaten in FIFA tournaments for 30 years until they finally lost to Hungary playing with 9 men in ET of the 1954 semifinal (2:2 at FT). One of the many games called "The Match of the Century".

Uruguay played Brazil, in Brazil, three times in a week two months before the World Cup. Won the first 4-3, lost the next 3-2 and the last 1-0. That's pretty even, more so when the visiting side gets run down while the locals kept mixing things up with fresh players.

It just happened that two months later Brazil was being Brazil and pummelling opponents while Uruguay characteristically played out tighter games.

Brazil was expected to win. The newspapers saluted the world champions before the game was even played. 200,000 people went to watch and celebrate... and 11 chaps had different plans. Even when they fell behind and had the chants of 200,000 thundering inside their heads, they kept their confidence and eye on the prize.

Brazil got caught up in the hype and the aftermath was soul-destroying, so much so that Brazilians alive in 1950 and 2014 tell you the 7-1 was nothing in comparison. Easily forgotten by pampered generations, while 1950 was meant to be THE ONE, THE FIRST.

But no, they weren't facing plucky underdogs or dark horses, not even remotely.
 

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It's obviously West Germany in 1954. They lost 8-3 to Hungary in the group stage and those who watched that game said it was like a pro side toying with a pub team.

Two week laters they are beating them 3-2 :eek:
 

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Italy in 1982. They went thru from the group stages without winning any games. No one expected them to get thru a group that had Argentina and Brazil. Yet beat them they did. And beat West Germany 3-1 in the Final.
This - it was surreal
 

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Are they that bad ?
The match fixing thing was going on and I think they announced the punishments on eye of tournament so Juve getting relegated with many players in the squad wasn't seen as great preparation but ultimately they used it as great motivation.

Italy still had a very good squad in those days but I would say there were at least 4 sides ranked ahead of them as favourites. They'd crashed out in the groups in euro 2004 and famously lost to South Korea in WC2002 so not like they had great form.

However as the tournament progressed, they did have a feel of side who were going under the radar, just about got past a decent Australia team in last 16 and then got light draw of Ukraine. The Germany SF was brilliant from them though, classic Italian performance.

If you look at all the recent World cups it's usually a top 3 favourite that wins it, certainly Germany in 2014 and France in 2018 fulfil that criteria. Brazil in 2002 had poor qualification but at the finals they still had all of Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo and fit again Ronaldo so that wasn't huge shock.

I guess France in 1998 actually winning it would be classed as a small shock given their issues with CF and unconvincing friendlies in build up.

The biggest individual underdog winning it would've been Raymond Domenech. Very similar to Avram Grant being a penalty shoot out away from being a coach that won a major title.
 

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The match fixing thing was going on and I think they announced the punishments on eye of tournament so Juve getting relegated with many players in the squad wasn't seen as great preparation but ultimately they used it as great motivation.

Italy still had a very good squad in those days but I would say there were at least 4 sides ranked ahead of them as favourites. They'd crashed out in the groups in euro 2004 and famously lost to South Korea in WC2002 so not like they had great form.

However as the tournament progressed, they did have a feel of side who were going under the radar, just about got past a decent Australia team in last 16 and then got light draw of Ukraine. The Germany SF was brilliant from them though, classic Italian performance.

If you look at all the recent World cups it's usually a top 3 favourite that wins it, certainly Germany in 2014 and France in 2018 fulfil that criteria. Brazil in 2002 had poor qualification but at the finals they still had all of Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo and fit again Ronaldo so that wasn't huge shock.

I guess France in 1998 actually winning it would be classed as a small shock given their issues with CF and unconvincing friendlies in build up.

The biggest individual underdog winning it would've been Raymond Domenech. Very similar to Avram Grant being a penalty shoot out away from being a coach that won a major title.
still waiting for a big shock like euro 2004 greece and 1992 Denmark
 

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You should look up the definition of underdog or read up on football history.

Uruguay was unbeaten in FIFA tournaments for 30 years until they finally lost to Hungary playing with 9 men in ET of the 1954 semifinal (2:2 at FT). One of the many games called "The Match of the Century".

Uruguay played Brazil, in Brazil, three times in a week two months before the World Cup. Won the first 4-3, lost the next 3-2 and the last 1-0. That's pretty even, more so when the visiting side gets run down while the locals kept mixing things up with fresh players.

It just happened that two months later Brazil was being Brazil and pummelling opponents while Uruguay characteristically played out tighter games.

Brazil was expected to win. The newspapers saluted the world champions before the game was even played. 200,000 people went to watch and celebrate... and 11 chaps had different plans. Even when they fell behind and had the chants of 200,000 thundering inside their heads, they kept their confidence and eye on the prize.

Brazil got caught up in the hype and the aftermath was soul-destroying, so much so that Brazilians alive in 1950 and 2014 tell you the 7-1 was nothing in comparison. Easily forgotten by pampered generations, while 1950 was meant to be THE ONE, THE FIRST.

But no, they weren't facing plucky underdogs or dark horses, not even remotely.
Beautiful post.

Also I dont think even West Germany from 1954 falls into an underdog category.
 

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It was the underdog of all underdogs
Yeah, on the second thought you're right, West Germany was reinstanted in Fifa before that WC and barely played in the months leading to the tournament, nobody knew what to expect from them.
I just meant they werent underdogs cause they lost to Hungary only to beat them in the final, other than that Hungary game in the 1st round they had a good tournament and it wasnt a fluke.
 

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Yeah, on the second thought you're right, West Germany was reinstanted in Fifa before that WC and barely played in the months leading to the tournament, nobody knew what to expect from them.
I just meant they werent underdogs cause they lost to Hungary only to beat them in the final, other than that Hungary game in the 1st round they had a good tournament and it wasnt a fluke.
Yeah that's fair, it wasn't a single smash and grab job that got them the title. Just due to the war and the aftermath, they were a nonentity coming into the tournament. If I remember correctly, no one dared playing Germany until like 1951 after the war
 

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Yeah that's fair, it wasn't a single smash and grab job that got them the title. Just due to the war and the aftermath, they were a nonentity coming into the tournament. If I remember correctly, no one dared playing Germany until like 1951 after the war
Yeah, them or you guys to be more precise :D and Japan were a no go for years after the World cup. Remarkable story really, as soon as they got back to the WC they won it.
 

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Italy in 1982. They went thru from the group stages without winning any games. No one expected them to get thru a group that had Argentina and Brazil. Yet beat them they did. And beat West Germany 3-1 in the Final.
Disagree. Italy had plenty of quality in 82.