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If my only player of quality was 31 years, I would be worried - even if we won the FA Cup
You’re asking questions for another day. Today we’re celebrating the reason for supporting our club. Which is winning cups.And yet now you're struggling to qualify for the CL. If you think that's not falling, then I don't know what is; no matter how many FA cups you win.
How are you going to compete with the teams with more financial power for the future? will the FA cup money help you? Come on... trophies are important, but the FA cup ain't important if it's comparing PL and CL success/or the road to compete for those trophies. CL spots do (money wise).
How big are the cash prizes? As we all know, CL football means money for a whole other top player in your budget, maybe more. If an FA Cup victory could do that thenI think it would mean more. There would need to be kick on clauses in all the contracts for an FA Cup win just like CL qualification.Chelsea.
Fa cup probably needs a revamp, because most teams of that stature would rather Chelsea's finish to the season than arsenal's and it shouldn't be like that.
Hows history remembering Arsenal over the last decade? I dont think its as winners tbhUltimately history will remember who won the FA Cup in 2020. People looking back on this will give two shits about Chelsea finishing 4th and getting into the CL.
By teams who are challenging for titles, of course they would banter. Just as Manutd are being lambasted now in a way. However, let's not forget the main goal. Every top teams first priority coming into any season is top 4, because it's vital. No one goes into season thinking FA cup is a priority.You’re asking questions for another day. Today we’re celebrating the reason for supporting our club. Which is winning cups.
We were thoroughly lambasted for years for the response to finishing in the top 4. Now it’s the be-all-everything and more important than actually delivering trophies?
Nothing is guaranteed going forward, Chelsea had 3 significant injuries today and that will have an affect on them, not to mention the COVID affect and life in general.
CL football is what any fan wants. But if qualifying for the CL just to be in with a chance of competing for a different medal and getting the money for it, is genuinely better than winning a medal then I’m doing this football thing arse about face. But like another poster (duffer?) said, I’m old and have a different perspective.
Finished 8th! Tragic!
No Europe!
Won 14th FA Cup!
Qualified for Europe!
Softens the blow.
4 FA Cups?Hows history remembering Arsenal over the last decade? I dont think its as winners tbh
Pros and cons really but as things stand Arsenal have far more chance of making CL by winning the europa than finishing 4th imo.By teams who are challenging for titles, of course they would banter. Just as Manutd are being lambasted now in a way. However, let's not forget the main goal. Every top teams first priority coming into any season is top 4, because it's vital. No one goes into season thinking FA cup is a priority.
Having said that, you're right it's still a trophy and goes into the history books. Let's hope it don't have a negative effect on your team being in the Europa league next year, as personally I think for Arsenal a year away from that league would have been ideal for your rebuild.
I'll be interested to know if there are any utd fans on here expecting to win the CL anytime soon, cause I ain't. For me it's never about winning, if we reach the knockout later stages that'd do for me.I would rather take the cup. Annoyed we got knocked out, but we can still win the europa league.
CL is nice, but not expecting us to win it. Although I still hope for it.
I wouldn’t have missed us in the EL next season.By teams who are challenging for titles, of course they would banter. Just as Manutd are being lambasted now in a way. However, let's not forget the main goal. Every top teams first priority coming into any season is top 4, because it's vital. No one goes into season thinking FA cup is a priority.
Having said that, you're right it's still a trophy and goes into the history books. Let's hope it don't have a negative effect on your team being in the Europa league next year, as personally I think for Arsenal a year away from that league would have been ideal for your rebuild.
Given the expectations and starting point at the beginning of the season, getting the CL position is a benchmark for improvement and more opportunities to better the team next year. FA cup is nice to win but I don't think it is any benchmark for improvement esp. in a season when you finish 8th. But of course, we shouldn't to be happy just finishing 4th every season like Arsenal were but this specific season it was a benchmark for us.I would rather take the cup. Annoyed we got knocked out, but we can still win the europa league.
CL is nice, but not expecting us to win it. Although I still hope for it.
You went and answered the question that shouldn’t have been asked.As if 1 extra win in the FA Cup = a better season for a side who finished 8th vs one that finished 4th
Chelsea hands down and it shouldn't even be a question
I agree with this. You own this cup. So a better season but not a better team hence the league position.Arsenal qualified for the CL 19 times in a row. No one really gives a feck for that stat.
14 FA Cups is a decent stat though.
Yeah I am happy with our season. Just want to win things. I think you can build from outside the CL too if you scout and do it well and still spend the cash. Although being in CL can attract players slightly more.Given the expectations and starting point at the beginning of the season, getting the CL position is a benchmark for improvement and more opportunities to better the team next year. FA cup is nice to win but I don't think it is any benchmark for improvement esp. in a season when you finish 8th. But of course, we shouldn't to be happy just finishing 4th every season like Arsenal were but this specific season it was a benchmark for us.
And having to play Europa league turns into a hindrance for the league when you don't have a big enough squad.Considering Arsenal broke their transfer record for the third year running and only managed 8th, I'd go for Chelsea (biased though I might be). Would be a different story if Arsenal had never won the FA Cup previously but that's obviously not the case here.
It's nice for the players / Arteta to lift silverware, but for the health of the club as a whole finishing 4th is clearly worth much more, especially as it seems likely Arsenal will have to go into next year with major deficiencies in the squad unaddressed.
Very good point especially as they have to go through the qualifying stages (unless I'm much mistaken).And having to play Europa league turns into a hindrance for the league when you don't have a big enough squad.
Thats a bit OTT.The FA Cup has been a joke trophy for years but that won't stop deluded Arsenal fans from declaring themselves the best team in the country on the back of this win. Chelsea comfortably had a better season as Arsenal's league campaign was a hilarious disaster.
Nope. They'll start from group stage as Fa Cup winners. Spurs will be the ones to play the qualifying stages.Very good point especially as they have to go through the qualifying stages (unless I'm much mistaken).
Oh! Well that's a nice perk for Arsenal. Still wouldn't say that tips the scales of this question in their balance, mind, but I appreciate the clarification!Nope. They'll start from group stage as Fa Cup winners. Spurs will be the ones to play the qualifying stages.
Interesting you would say thatThe football fans on here have some weird perspective.
Pure hyperbole!The FA Cup has been a joke trophy for years but that won't stop deluded Arsenal fans from declaring themselves the best team in the country on the back of this win. Chelsea comfortably had a better season as Arsenal's league campaign was a hilarious disaster.
I really believe that players want medals, particularly at the top clubs. I also believe that the majority of those players are only really at the clubs they’re at due to personal financial motivation. I’d rather finish my career with a few extra million in the bank than a few pieces of metal...Interesting you would say that
Think the answer is this is a manchester united board and most people here haven't forgotten what it is to be fans of a big club
Anyways, from the club's perspectives it's chelsea and it's not close. For the players...no idea. Maybe arsenal actually
For the fans, depends how much you care about the FA Cup/how you approach the CL. I can see how being fodder can take the shine off getting to play Bayern Munich...
Sorry mate how drunk are you? Perfectly understandable if you are even if your post isn't.I really believe that players want medals, particularly at the top clubs. I also believe that the majority of those players are only really at the clubs they’re at due to personal financial motivation. I’d rather finish my career with a few extra million in the bank than a few pieces of metal...
Fans, like myself like records and history. It’s what draws us in. We fans obviously care more for the trophies, but like you said, people forget.
Not having CL money is a challenge, but it’s not like teams can’t get back into it and be successful.
There is a shine to playing Bayern, but no one remembers past that if you lose..
Unless you just want your team making money and playing the big names..
There is a shine to playing Bayern, but no one remembers past that if you lose..
oh wait.. European Super League.
It’s still early here in Alberta..Sorry mate how drunk are you? Perfectly understandable if you are even if your post isn't.
Hah hope you have a good one mate. Enjoy yourself and have a great weekend!It’s still early here in Alberta..
I watched it this morning from 10:30 am..
It’s not just the beers, it’s the other legal stuff that’s problematic with the cut and pasting