Kaushal
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If Eriksen signs for us people underrating him gonna change their opinion very quickly. Wonderful player.
He ended the story. Why are you quoting him ? It’s done.20 times better than Eriksen? He must be the best player that ever lived then.
Whinging like a bitch is oneFor me it's Erikson but Bruno can do some things better than anybody.
Fair enough. Can't argue with that.He ended the story. Why are you quoting him ? It’s done.
If you think Bruno is better state why. It's a debate.
Bingo, it is like comparing lampard to xavi and saying lampard is better because of statsConsidering that goals and assists are only ever Bruno's argument, in his best four consecutive league seasons, he returned 0.68 non-penalty goals or assists. Eriksen in his best four consecutive league seasons returned 0.60 non-penalty goals and assists every 90 minutes. That's an extra 3 goal involvement in a 38 game season. Basically the same level, and the first of Bruno's four was in Eriksen's third season.
Bruno's 'peak' that gets shoved down our throats everyday was literally the period he got to convert 34 penalties in three years. Look beyond the sheer number of penalties Sporting Lisbon and Manchester United won during that period, and Bruno has no argument against Christian Eriksen as a midfielder.
Didn’t he fully down tools at Spurs for an entire season?Eriksen has never been anyway near as decisive as Bruno was during his first year with us. But he's also never been near as destructive as Bruno was for half his games last season.
I don't quiet understand the comparison. Despite being similar, these players are quiet different.
Both of them are basically a better version of Juan Mata.
Bruno is Juan Mata with more pace, grit, attitude and workrate, but less technique and finess.
Eriksen is basically Juan Mata with the same technique, finess and vision, slightly faster with more workrate, but still less than Bruno.
While being similar, these 2 are still different players.
The only reason Eriksen is rated so highly is because he didn't play for us. I already see how the caf would react when he attempts a through ball, losses possession and just site there and jogs back a la Pogba. This place would eat him for breakfast, lunch and dinner. For those of you wondering what I'm talking about, this season he has a 74.4% pass completion rate, where Bruno has 75%. And Bruno is supposed to have a mare of a season.
Considering he hasn’t been coached in more than 2 years, I think Bruno has shown enough in a “vibes and inshallah” environment to make me excited to see how good he could be under an actual football coach.If you think Bruno is better state why. It's a debate.
Not really Bruno isn’t great for Portugal as where Eriksen shines for Denmark.I'm assuming we're talking Eriksen at his best here?
Depends. Same level of player, but Eriksen is better for good teams, Bruno for bad teams. Basically Eriksen is better at playing with other great players, whereas Bruno is better as the team's best player and talisman
That kinda proves his point. Denmark is a good team, Bruno doesn't shine for Portugal because he isn't the team's best player and he's mostly asked to play a different role.Not really Bruno isn’t great for Portugal as where Eriksen shines for Denmark.
You're talking absolute rubbish. Do you have a memory problem past this season perhaps?Bruno is a very good player but he doesn't put insane numbers and he hasn't shown that he is better at winning games.
No. But he played poorly by his standards in a poorly performing team.Didn’t he fully down tools at Spurs for an entire season?
Brunos "vibes" era was the best era of his career. That should say something.Considering he hasn’t been coached in more than 2 years, I think Bruno has shown enough in a “vibes and inshallah” environment to make me excited to see how good he could be under an actual football coach.
They are not insane when you consider that 21 of those goals are penalties. For United in 2019/2020 he registered 12 goals and 8 assists including 8 penalties in 22 games. In 2020/2021 he registered 28 goals and 17 assists including 13 penalties in 59 games. That's good but not insane, I reserve the term insane for the 2012/2013 season from Mata where he registered 19 goals and 35 assists with 0 penalties in 65 games.You're talking absolute rubbish. Do you have a memory problem past this season perhaps?
2019/2020
Apps 50, Goals 27, Assists 22
2020/2021
Apps 58, Goals 29, Assists 17
If you don't know that the above numbers are absolutely amazing for an attacking midfielder then I don't know what to say.
You shouldn’t find it mad at all when you appear to be doing the exact same thing, only for your own ‘favourite player’. Basically two sides of the same coin. There will be people who likely feel that you or others will always make excuses for Bruno just as you feel they always make excuses for Pogba or Rashford. I don’t see any superiority as such.It’s mad isn’t it. You’ve posters on here dying to crucify Bruno after one very bad season after one and a half outstanding seasons here and a few more in Portugal. Posters who been standing up for the likes of Pogba and Rashford over the years no matter how poor, unfit or disinterested they look. Players who’ve consistently bottled the big moments despite having a manager who coddled them. Players who run to the press when things aren’t cushy enough. That’s the kind of toxic situation Bruno came into. He can’t be expected to come along and do it all himself for years. As soon as his form dips it’s like people try to use that as an excuse to justify the terrible form of their own favourite players when Bruno had easily surpassed them when he was playing well,
If you read my earlier post in here you’ll see I’m not making excuses for Bruno? He was absolutely shite last season, couldn’t even do the basics right. Can one player really indefinitely continue to carry a toxic team though? One thing I know for sure is we were going nowhere and creating little for quite a while before Bruno arrived and he lifted everyone around him while the other lads fluctuated from really poor and to pretty decent and that’s after years here when they should be at their peak. When is it ok to call it out? If Bruno is as bad next season then we clearly have another problem.You shouldn’t find it mad at all when you appear to be doing the exact same thing, only for your own ‘favourite player’. Basically two sides of the same coin. There will be people who likely feel that you or others will always make excuses for Bruno just as you feel they always make excuses for Pogba or Rashford. I don’t see any superiority as such.
It's not even the same thing, people mainly argued against the idea that Pogba was the worst performer in the team which has been a recurring claim by some. Bruno being the worst or not good isn't a common idea, he is a good to very good player but isn't the generational talent that some want to describe and doesn't have insane stats either, he has flaws that need to be acknowledged and masked but that's true for almost all players.You shouldn’t find it mad at all when you appear to be doing the exact same thing, only for your own ‘favourite player’. Basically two sides of the same coin. There will be people who likely feel that you or others will always make excuses for Bruno just as you feel they always make excuses for Pogba or Rashford. I don’t see any superiority as such.
Where are you getting those numbers from?You're talking absolute rubbish. Do you have a memory problem past this season perhaps?
2019/2020
Apps 50, Goals 27, Assists 22
2020/2021
Apps 58, Goals 29, Assists 17
If you don't know that the above numbers are absolutely amazing for an attacking midfielder then I don't know what to say.
I mean, naturally, you feel your own assessments are the most balanced and reasonable and the opposing isn’t. That’s sort of my point. Some people don’t agree that Bruno was carrying our team before last season, for example, some people believe Pogba was our best player for his first few years, others see Rashford as having been a top performer for much of his time too.If you read my earlier post in here you’ll see I’m not making excuses for Bruno? He was absolutely shite last season, couldn’t even do the basics right. Can one player really indefinitely continue to carry a toxic team though? One thing I know for sure is we were going nowhere and creating little for quite a while before Bruno arrived and he lifted everyone around him while the other lads fluctuated from really poor and to pretty decent and that’s after years here when they should be at their peak. When is it ok to call it out? If Bruno is as bad next season then we clearly have another problem.
It coincided exactly with him wanting to leave and not being allowed, if I remember right.No. But he played poorly by his standards in a poorly performing team.