With the UK leaving the EU and David Cameron resigning as prime minister, does this leave the door open for Boris or someone else from within the conservative party? Or are we going to have another election?
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Who is going to be the Next Prime Minister of the UK? | Be your stubborn best
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Probably Boris
Wouldn't be surprised if he calls an immediate election though if labour have not got rid of Corbyn beforehand
Wouldn't be surprised if he calls an immediate election though if labour have not got rid of Corbyn beforehand
Yeah, I don't think the Tories would have a problem with calling a general election at this point. Labour just don't have the support to beat them, they might as well do it and then they can say that their new leader (Johnson, probably) has the support of the people
This guy, really?
Theresa May is the obvious choice. I don't think she will be a good PM, but she is best positioned.
Indeed... Plus it would guarantee them five years more in government and give them a reason to delay invoking article 50 for a while (probably long enough to get past the French and German elections)
But who knows Boris might just go all Boris and go off script and do something daft...
David Moyes has ruled himself out.
Boris Johnson.
With regards to thoughts on an early GE: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122946
Government responded:
"The Fixed-Term Parliaments Act means no Government can call an early general election any more anyway."
Fixed-Term Parliaments Act was brought in in 2011.
Government responded:
"The Fixed-Term Parliaments Act means no Government can call an early general election any more anyway."
Fixed-Term Parliaments Act was brought in in 2011.
There will be a loophole. There's always a loophole.
You'd like to thing Labour would sack Corbyn off, get someone competent in and go head to head with Boris fecking Johnson. Hell, even give Green a go. Just anything other than a Far right Boris led Government. Please.
Boris is a clown .He may keep some amused.But outside of London he's not so loved. Could see Theresa May.
Boris has been promised a non-elected cabinet position. They will need a new government department to oversee the exit for the next 5 years. He will do that in the first instance.
Theresa may PM
Gove chancellor
Yup that's all the signs of the apocalypse...
Theresa may PM
Gove chancellor
Yup that's all the signs of the apocalypse...
Additionally I don't think Boris has any of the charisma, swag or the ability to bounce back from gaffs like Trump does. He's basically a poor man's Trump but with none of the business acumen Trump supposedly has.
My god...Boris Johnson.
I could be completely overlooking something here, but... won't his popularity in London have taken a hit? It just seems logical considering that he was at the forefront of the leave campaign, while London was staunchly in favour of remaining.
It's odd that this guy's name is thrown around so nonchalantly like he's guaranteed to be the next PM, as if everybody knows something. Is the UK really that mentally unstable? It's been a while since I was there.
Actually i think Boris might weasel out of PM position, it's not a surprise that both Boris and Gove wanted Cameron to continue, the next PM will have a huge hell on his hand and probably will end up a scapegoat rather than inspired leader of independence.
DOesn't the fixed-term law stop that?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...d-term-parliaments-act-about-be-stress-tested
Parts of it are uncannily accurate
No if 2/3Rd mps vote for an early election they can call one
Could labour really vote against that without doing themselves more damage
If Labour had someone electable, any time before someone presses the Article 50 button would be their best shot at power for, well, forever.
It's not up to the UK; it's essentially an internal appointment.
Yes as I say the race is on... Can they bin Corbyn before the next pm (Boris) can call an election against him
I would vote against, and wait for the economy to slow down before 2020 and then face an unpopular incumbent. Voters remember only the last 2 years of a term.
They'll definitely call an election after it, it's like the biggest lesson learned from the Brown premiership. There'll be an "oh look! A new toy" attitude from the public and they'll win bigish.
I think IDS has a chance for this very reason - he has nothing to gain or lose, while soaking up the negativity. He can get a nice cushy Lords position afterwards.
That's pretty much the Brexit strategy isn't it? He's just going to run into Brussels and smash Juncker into the ground.Boris Johnson.
Even so, that still doesn't explain the sheer support he seems to have i.e. I'm genuinely curious to know where he is getting it from and why.
Could be, but i think with him backing Leave campaign and resigning over benefit cuts, he basically gained so much political capital he might want a proper go. He also realizes, that Boris is a bit wayward, a weirdo is some sense, while actually Ian i mean well he is as experienced as they come and we now how elderly voter matter, just look at the current affair, it's 50+ who outvoted the younger generation particularly in turnout numbers. And with his resigning stunt he is certainly a big favorite with english working class that is the current political mainstream. So all of this lacking of charisma stuff ten years ago more and more looking like irrelevant. He also can be a more amenable person for the City, it'll still hold a huge lobbying power of course.
There is no loophole, they will have to amend legislation.
Nah, @Edgar Allan Pillow posted above the potential loophole. There is always a loophole.
edit: https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...d-term-parliaments-act-about-be-stress-tested
There doesn't have to be a loophole, it's built in to the legislation. Two thirds vote for an election and there's an election.
edit: if this makes you think the use of the phrase 'fixed-term' is a lie and a con-job you'd be right.
Was going to start this thread myself, can we have a poll @Raoul ?
A) Gove
B) Johnson
C) May
D) Osborne
Oh alright
E) boué
A) Gove
B) Johnson
C) May
D) Osborne
Oh alright
E) boué
What about Nigel? I'm sure he'll do the fruitcakes proud
I had thought May, but even though she kept a low-profile in the referendum she backed Remain. So, even though Gove has ruled himself out I reckon if a few score MPs put it in writing to him that they want him to stand then he would, and win. Gove is still 3rd favourite at the moment, but if he drifts I might bite.
May would've had a chance if the vote was Remain, but a Leaver is pretty guaranteed now. Boris is first and foremost a narcissist so he'll definitely be going for it, hard to see past him now.
Next PM is practically a lamb to the slaughter. I think it will be someone already unpopular with nothing to lose. Gove.