Good shout. I was expecting big things from him but he turned out big in body fat, nothing more.Anderson for me. Came here as a golden boy. Amazing YouTube highlights. Expected to be the next big thing. turned out to be a lazy fat feck who couldn’t really do much other than run around a bit before getting tired and needing to go off.
It's our now lower standards. The management of the football club (I can't blame the fans exactly but plenty stood by?) have given long, expensive contracts to some extremely average footballers and instead of cutting their losses on them, have treated them as an asset on a balance sheet. The players I'm thinking of are the likes of Lingard, Phil Jones, etc. but even today we've given a long term contract to some players whose ability is seriously questionable. That's led to a lack of a squad place or possibility of gambling on some other youth player while these guys have been filling up the subs bench - the thinking presumably being that they are ok 50-100k per week so we have to use them. I just don't see a world in which some of the players we've had in our squad would last longer than a year at some of the better run clubs around like Bayern or whoever.What's most upsetting is that we've really dried up now in terms of the 'reliable sub' youth player that would make up the 25. The 5th choice CB, or as I mentioned 3rd choice FB. I really put that down to how poorly the club is coached, and the lack of consistency from the first team downwards. LVG at least had that sorted.
Januzaj was very talented but according to one of his former coaches at United once he broke into the first team squad, once 'he made it' he stopped working hard.Januzaj
They were fun to watch. The Yorke and Cole of the reserves.More than anything else: time. I feel like every United fan goes through the youth muppet stage at some point, likely when they first notice MUTV. For me it was the glory days of Ebanks-Blake and Rossi. With Pique in there too. Over the years, United always seemed to have at least: 1 full back who could hop into the first team at a push, 1 midfielder who was a loan away move from solving our perpetual crisis in centre mid and 1 striker who we'd be desperate to get minutes because he was totally the next big thing.
Countless players seemed to pop up each year in the youth setup, and over time, extraordinarily few amounted to anything at United. Really, only Rashford has been a success, and he wasn't even that rated at youth level. The four highest rated in my memory were Rossi - who was bloody brilliant but lacked cartilage in his knees, Pogba who we know plenty about, Morisson who to be honest never did anything consistently in actual matches to warrant his hype and then Greenwood.
I'd say all 4 had the talent to be actually close to world class, but it shows you how other circumstances are necessary.
What's most upsetting is that we've really dried up now in terms of the 'reliable sub' youth player that would make up the 25. The 5th choice CB, or as I mentioned 3rd choice FB. I really put that down to how poorly the club is coached, and the lack of consistency from the first team downwards. LVG at least had that sorted.
Ronaldo, not obscurity clearly but feck me, he was sensational.Who is a player who helped you realize a career is not set in stone, and any talent could just fade like that into apparent obscurity?
Maybe subquestion if you feel like typing a lot: is there also a reverse? A never-would-be who proved you wrong big time?
Villarreal couldn't believe their luck. We sold Forlán to them for 3m and he scored 82 goals in 128 games. They then sold him to Atlético and got Rossi off us for <10m and he scored 82 goals in 192 games.Guisseppi Rossi after the goals he was banging in for the reserves. Expected him to be brought through and be a superstar.
It’s weird how Dortmund or the likes of Real have such good luck with the young players they sign. They also move on ther duds. There is something majorly wrong with our scouting and setup in general when young people aren’t rising to the challenge or realising their potential here, repeatedly. Also all the off the pitch stuff. We clearly aren’t a stable club and lack any kind of leadership from above. There’s been so much waste because of that. It feels like Fergie would get levels more out of these young players and kept them relatively grounded and as out of the gossip news as possible for the most part.
Greenwood is the worst one for me. I doubt he’ll ever hit the heights now but he looked like he was going to be one of the best young players we’d ever produced.
The Sancho situation along with all this Antony, Ronaldo, Pogba attitude, Lingard. I just like our footballers less and less all the time.
I guess but they got far more out of Haaland Sancho and Bellingham than we ever could. You make a fair point though. There are plenty of duds.They aren't even that lucky. Sold Isak and he developed into a great striker, Adeyemi isn't doing well, Moukoko barely played a role so far, Duranville (their biggest talent, IMO) has suffered multiple injuries at 17 already and they recently had to suspend their academy star (Brunner) for unknown reason. For every Ousmane Dembelé, there's an Emre Mor. There are simply too many unpredictables.
Yeah I understand what you mean somewhat.I guess but they got far more out of Haaland Sancho and Bellingham than we ever could. You make a fair point though. There are plenty of duds.
Real do seem to just get the winners though these days? When someone as good as Odegaard isn’t making it you’ve got a talent surplus. Their two big sales were probably our best players last season who were both youngsters coming through at Real. Vinicius has finally settled. Bellingham looks immense, Camavinga is a baller. Once again they have found the most ambitious players who have the skills to back it up. We seem to fail over and over when it comes to supporting these players and maximising them but maybe it’s because we stick on players for too long even when it’s clear they don’t have it. It’s clear that some players have been let down by our lack of direction at the club but the players have flopped hard too.