I feel like Ole is going to be the caretaker, he's done a lot of media lately it feels like there's a group of people trying to push this agenda of him coming back. Whether it's the correct answer is the hard question
Who should manage us next?
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Zidane? He’s available ain’t he. None of the tactics bullshit and straight for results. His charisma should also be able to pull a few transfers from French talents who wants to play for him.
He's not wanted the job in the past due to not being fluent and feeling like he wouldn't get on well with the culture here. He's also waiting on the France job after the world cup as Dechamps is stepping down.
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I swear
Cringe.
Shhh. You're not allowed to make a comment that isn't essentially firing Amorim out of a canon.
Ultimately, my opinion is that (unless things get really bad again...) Amorim may aswell stay until the end of the season because nobody (out of those currently available) would do a better job in the short-term and the idea of an interim concerns me now.
End of the season would be an appropriate time to reevaluate and its presumably a lot easier to bring in a replacement.
He just isn't.
Good example of not solely focusing on what they've done elsewhere. Finished 10th in his first season in Ligue 1, relegated the next. Gets the chance with Sunderland, takes them up straight away and now the best start by a promoted side in 20 years.
Klopp is the one for me, he was one of 3 we should have got when Fergie retired.
Klopp managing this lineup I'd like to see.
Lammens
Mazroaui De Ligt Yoro Dorgu
NEW CM NEW CDM
Fernandes
Mbuemo Sesko Cunha
Give Amorim the two midfielders and I'm not sure we still have the top performing team. But Klopp with the same additions playing a 4231 just looks like it suits our squad better.
Mazroaui and Dorgu can lock off wingers without needing to be wingers themselves. Mbuemo and Cunha can be closer to the goal and Sesko without just crossing all the time.
Bruno would play in his best position and feed a good attack.
We still need the midfield mobility and stability with two new signings. Mainoo doesn't have the mobility to be that in Amorims or Klopps lineup.
We are genuinely not far off having in my opinion a top 11 that should be in the 4. The midfield is the next focus for January and the summer. I think we blow the budget on two midfielders. However it is a genuine question whether Amorim should get those two players to work with or another manager.
I assume the club will settle with seeing if Amorim can get a tune with the two new players and if not then he'll be replaced. Klopp is a very tough target but why shouldn't we go for him. He's crazy enough to take the challenge.
Klopp managing this lineup I'd like to see.
Lammens
Mazroaui De Ligt Yoro Dorgu
NEW CM NEW CDM
Fernandes
Mbuemo Sesko Cunha
Give Amorim the two midfielders and I'm not sure we still have the top performing team. But Klopp with the same additions playing a 4231 just looks like it suits our squad better.
Mazroaui and Dorgu can lock off wingers without needing to be wingers themselves. Mbuemo and Cunha can be closer to the goal and Sesko without just crossing all the time.
Bruno would play in his best position and feed a good attack.
We still need the midfield mobility and stability with two new signings. Mainoo doesn't have the mobility to be that in Amorims or Klopps lineup.
We are genuinely not far off having in my opinion a top 11 that should be in the 4. The midfield is the next focus for January and the summer. I think we blow the budget on two midfielders. However it is a genuine question whether Amorim should get those two players to work with or another manager.
I assume the club will settle with seeing if Amorim can get a tune with the two new players and if not then he'll be replaced. Klopp is a very tough target but why shouldn't we go for him. He's crazy enough to take the challenge.
Zero chance.
More chance of someone on here getting a go than Klopp touching United.
There's absolutely no real world scenario where that happens. He's a hero down the road
Who thought he would pick Liverpool over us previously?
His reason was he wanted an actual challenge. There is no doubt we're a huge challenge for a manager. You never know.
The fact people are (even if semi jokingly) suggesting Klopp shows how little options there are at the moment.
That being said, it would be very United post 2013 to bring in a manager that's probably just past his prime now.
That being said, it would be very United post 2013 to bring in a manager that's probably just past his prime now.
You mean Pep Guardiola?
We do already know though.
Klopp said after he left Liverpool that he would never manage another English club.
He said it again recently to Man United fan Steven Bartlett on diary of a CEO.
There is a 0% chance of Klopp taking over.
That's probably why he turned down the job the previous summer TBF.
Well we have Ed Woodward to thank for with his Disneyland pitch to Klopp hence why he ended up choosing Liverpool over us in the first place.
He's not gonna come here. There is more chance of Mike Bassett getting the job than Klopp accepting it.
Klopp ffs. I hope you muppets are joking!
Pool will probably sack slot and take Glasner from under our noses.... that said we do not have the players for this system no matter who is managing, and we do not have the squad depth for any system TBH, our 1st 11 is not up to scratch and our subs bench has no options, I am not excusing Amorim but I really do not think any manger coming in will have immediate success, we need at least 1 more good summer window and for 3-4 decent kids to come through for depth
Who would I take, TBH I am not mega fussed on any options right now, I do not think there is a magic wand, I think our squad has been so eroded for years that it is going to take several seasons for whoever is in charge.
Who would I take, TBH I am not mega fussed on any options right now, I do not think there is a magic wand, I think our squad has been so eroded for years that it is going to take several seasons for whoever is in charge.
Alonso will be available by the end of the year I reckon.
What are Souness and Dalglish up to?
Any manager who doesn't need £1,000,000,000 for new players and keeps saying, "Just two more players; but until then have to suffer."
I do think Amorim, if we give him may £400,000,000 a year for the next 10 years may pull out a decent cup run, or top 4 finish in one of those years if he was lucky.
I wouldn't take the bloke who took Southampton down, but after that does it really matter, we have supposedly been recruiting the best available for the last 10 years or whatever it is since SAF left and our success has been moderate.
Just pick someone, anyone. Put players in their best position, tell them to run hard and give it everything or they won't get picked next week, and let them figure it out between themselves on the pitch. They have all been playing at top level since they were 7 must know what to do themselves.
Could it be any worse? Some responsibility and freedom could work wonders.
I do think Amorim, if we give him may £400,000,000 a year for the next 10 years may pull out a decent cup run, or top 4 finish in one of those years if he was lucky.
I wouldn't take the bloke who took Southampton down, but after that does it really matter, we have supposedly been recruiting the best available for the last 10 years or whatever it is since SAF left and our success has been moderate.
Just pick someone, anyone. Put players in their best position, tell them to run hard and give it everything or they won't get picked next week, and let them figure it out between themselves on the pitch. They have all been playing at top level since they were 7 must know what to do themselves.
Could it be any worse? Some responsibility and freedom could work wonders.
There’s a lot of strange glass half full, disingenuous logic being applied here.
“Tested elite manager”. I don’t think any club other than Real Madrid and Manchester City have ran this way over the last decade or so.
Arsenal gambled on Arteta, Chelsea gambled on Maresca, Spurs a bit further back on Poch. Liverpool gambled on Slot.
“Tested elite managers” aren’t readily available.
I’d argue continuing with Amorim is a bigger risk based on the sample size of his reign so far which at this point is the worse in the clubs history. What you therefore say is a contradiction in itself to suggest staying with Amorim is the safer course.
It’s the equivalent of me buying a second hand car and it breaking down every other week (and appearing to be the worse car I’ve ever had) but then refusing to buy a new second hand car because it might also break down a lot.
Perhaps some consideration with Glasner and the possession Palace posses has a little to do with tools at his disposal, his tactical flexibility and understanding of the best way to win football matches as a football manager?? Something Amorim does not understand the concept of.
He is officially the greatest manager in Crystal Palace’s history, fact. Simultaneously Ruben Amorim is the worse in Uniteds..
Comparing Amorims win percentage at Manchester United with the tools at his disposal to that of Iraola and the tools he has at Bournemouth is bizarre logic and also completely disingenuous.
Bournemouth also lost several of their best players at the start of the season. United didn’t.
Eye test will tell you Bournemouth play better football than Manchester United despite not having anywhere the same quality of individual player.
If there is no decent improvement during this season then I would be happy to get Poch in after the world cup.
At least this rigid wrong formation would be gone.
At least this rigid wrong formation would be gone.
There already is improvement. There is only so far you can go with a dysfunctional midfield.
Amazed people still don’t think there are better alternatives out there than Amorim after watching us since he arrived. He’s just not good enough for the squad he’s got and I reckon more than half the managers in the league would do a better job at United right now.
I’m convinced Ireola would be the best fit for us and ticks the boxes - they play good stuff and good to watch. We haven’t been at all since Amorim arrived.
Not totally keen on Glasner because this back 3 nonsense says nothing about the United days of old.
A push for Anchelotti after next Summer but I think we’ll need a new man in soon.
I’m convinced Ireola would be the best fit for us and ticks the boxes - they play good stuff and good to watch. We haven’t been at all since Amorim arrived.
Not totally keen on Glasner because this back 3 nonsense says nothing about the United days of old.
A push for Anchelotti after next Summer but I think we’ll need a new man in soon.
I can understand why you put these names forward. But ETH and Amorim were both seen in a similar light, albeit in Europe not the PL. They were both pushed as up and coming young managers who had delivered in easier leagues. I don’t believe either of your suggestions are actually capable of the step up to manage a club of Utd’s scale, complexity and scrutiny.
There’s a reason he is managing the US national team and not a top or half decent European club.
The guy is so over-rated.
When Amorim finally retires after his glittering 20 years of collecting trophies at Old Trafford I could see David Moyes the Third taking over.
So what's the reason Amorim is still in charge here then?
Every new manager is a gamble but Glasner is much more experienced than Amorim, proven in the PL, and won the FA Cup with Palace after losing Olise. Maybe Ancelotti is available but I don't think so. Glasner is a very strong candidate but as you say the United job is very demanding and many will crumble.
There are no great options right now and it's a waste of time, although we have plenty of time on our hands right now, to debate the options. I'd rather put our energy into focusing on players who can get the job done -- and "the job" these days is nothing more than making top four and playing reasonably attractive football one out of every five matches. I'm sure we have multiple threads going on players we could bring in.
Erm, I didn’t put those names forward, at all. In fact I’ve previously said I wouldn’t actually want Glasner. I think you’ve completely missed the point of my post.
End of the season allows you to evaluate those that will be managing in the World Cup. Granted they won't be available right away but you can at least shop.
He's not getting fired unless they become Wolves.
I think they will also back him in January with good money.
Just give the fanbase the job, have a poll every week to decide the starting 11, and the same for transfer targets. They seem to know everything.
He has never been available to United. Just like his playing career, he has no interest in English football.
For the squad he has we are around where we should be.
I view him as a miserable character, grumpy and obnoxious, but I'm quite sure he actually knows what to do (unlike say Rooney). In Xavis case there is a solution: almost a Two Manager System with one Players Manager (Human side) and one Tactical Manager (Xavi).
Also I believe Xavi is way to set on the Tiki Taka principles and has refused to evolve with the times. Could still work quite well but also has been studied to death by now. So yeah, overall, best stay clear instead.