Who was worse - Rangnick or Ole?

Who was worse - Rangnick or Ole?


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PoTMS

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Now that clusterfeck of a season is over, I think we can properly judge the two. Both were absolute shite but who was worse?
 

roonster09

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Did we have a single memorable game or performance under Rangnick?
 

onemanarmy

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Ole got us better results but set us back years with his transfer and contract policy. He gets the vote for me.
 

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Ole was worse, the board gave Rangnick no support then the players took the fecking piss.
 

Robbie Boy

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None, thanks.
 

RedBanker

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This thread...which compares a manager who was give half a billion and three years with an interim manager who had to deal with the most toxic dressing room since SAF left and most turd-filled squad since SAF left and who was also not allowed to sign any forward in January.
 

Van Piorsing

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Rangnick didn't even had full access to the club or transfers, not to mention dressing room rejected him by default.
 

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Ralf. He has shown up this bunch. They were never going to show up when thing are going to get tough. Since the plan was to bring a new manager end of the season no matter what, Ralf has done some positives.
 

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Who cares. Thank goodness this is all over.

New season and a new manager. Reasons to be optimistic.
 

Nou_Camp99

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Ole was worse, the board gave Rangnick no support then the players took the fecking piss.
Guy got us 3rd and 2nd place and we actually beat likes of City, Chelsea n Arsenal regularly under him.

Ralf has been way worse.
 

charlenefan

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RR obviously and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fecking idiot
 

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Without Rangnick, some players are still living their delusional lives in Manchester.
 

JPRouve

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Which period are we talking about? This season, I would say Ole simply because he oversaw and most likely caused the derailment, Rangnick was brought to avoid a complete wreckage but failed.
 

thegregster

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Ralf was worse. But history could be kind to him if ETH works out.
 

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Rangnick. Total bluffer.
 

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One left us in ruins, the other one exhibited said ruins.
 

Ted Lasso

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Rangnik has a better spend to points ratio.

But in all seriousness, I can't believe this is how people think. You'd think the last 7 years never happened.
 

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Ole. Read below:


The inside story of the worst Manchester United season in decades

United never had the character in their dressing room for an interim manager to operate. The United manager's authority eroded in the last months of Jose Mourinho's tenure, Solskjaer felt like a substitute teacher and the professorial Rangnick was more befitting that description.

Rangnick started to cut loose in his press conferences and that was described as the 'filtered version' by a source. The majority of the United players were never having Rangnick's methods and his diagnosis the squad required 'open-heart surgery' went down badly with them. That is now an emergency operation, although you might need to check if some at United have a heart.

Erik ten Hag will have to fumigate the dressing room. The United squad is a toxic mix of backbiting and spitefulness. A player described the mood as 'toxic' and Jesse Lingard was unfussed Paul Scholes publicised his description of the dressing room as a 'disaster' after the Arsenal defeat.

Those close to one player referred to Rangnick as 'specs' behind his back, craven playground bully behaviour that should be rooted out, not rewarded with a new contract. The squad's disillusionment was a source of fascination to Ferguson, who used backchannels to gauge the mood.

One player complained Rangnick 'talked to him like a child' and 'did not give a s---e' about Rangnick's advice. Another player was dubbed a 'teacher's pet'. One senior player spoke disparagingly of any competitor for his position. Some players found Anthony Elanga's playing time mind-boggling.

A player who took umbrage with criticism he received from Solskjaer two months into the season said the Norwegian was 'finished'. A month later, Solskjaer was. Once some contracts have expired, the nest will be sparser but some vipers are still slithering.

The in-fighting actually went public when a player scored and barely celebrated. An enthusiastic teammate encouraged him to smile in front of a nearby camera, which only incensed the player, irritated by his teammate's apparent obsequiousness. This happened with United winning in a game they won.

Come the listless defeat at Goodison Park in early April, a source close to one player said several players had 'mentally checked out'. Everton players were distinctly unimpressed by United in the reverse fixture six months earlier and rued drawing 1-1.

The season was still salvageable when Rangnick was introduced to the press at Old Trafford on the first Friday of December but the rot that had set in under Solskjaer was incurable. Paul Pogba resented his half-time introduction in the 5-0 evisceration by Liverpool with the visitors 4-0 up and he lasted 15 minutes of the second-half until his expulsion. Pogba left the pitch sooner at Anfield.

Ronaldo's gravitas was largely appreciated at United, particularly by the younger players, and he was holding the dressing room together in the final weeks of Solskjaer's tenure. Ronaldo's presence cowed Maguire and some players partially blamed their own downturn in form on Maguire's struggles. One player suggested Maguire got an easier ride than other United centre-backs as far back as the 2-0 home defeat to Burnley in January 2020.

A meeting attended by senior players and Rangnick was held without Maguire in February and caused ructions. Pogba was present and retrospectively apologised to Rangnick as he did not want to appear as though he was undermining the manager. Dressing room sources described a senior player's behaviour in the meeting as a 'hijacking'.

Eric Bailly abhorred Maguire's privileges and questioned how he could continue to start whilst underperforming. Another player claimed Maguire was 'not good enough'. Several teammates agree Bruno Fernandes's wasteful approach is 'a problem'.

A reporter new on the Manchester beat wrote United suspected where the 'unsavoury leaks' had emerged from. Like in Murder on the Orient Express, more than one passenger stuck the knife in.


Towards the end of Solskjaer's tenure, United players were at the end of their tether with Solskjaer. He held a team meeting and asked the players if they still trusted him. A player noticed almost everyone was avoiding eye contact and 'looking at their shoes'.

Player sources believe Solskjaer's legacy has been one of distrust. Several still under contract want to leave as they feel they were sold a pup by the former manager and it has driven a wedge between them and the club.


https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ll-news/man-united-news-inside-story-23661212
 
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charlenefan

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Ralf was worse. But history could be kind to him if ETH works out.
No let's shut this shite down right now

If ETH works out it'll be because of him and him alone not anything the German Fraud has done
 

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As a disclaimer they are both the absolute bottom of the barrel.

That being said Rangnick is worse than Ole for me. Under Ole we had some good results now and then, we had none of those under Ralf.
 

OneUnited24

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RR. While I like how he called out the club in hindsight keeping ole may have yielded better results
 

RedRonaldo

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Ole.

Its mostly Ole players, he has spent over 400m in this squad, and he created this pile of shite.

Whereas Rangnick take over this pile of shite, and couldn't make any improvement.
 

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Ralf but he wasn‘t doing anything with a squad full of unhappy players
 

Idxomer

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Ole, of course.

Rangnick has been awful but he has had half of the usual starting lineup out for months now.
 

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Ole had a lot longer and an open chequebook at times and was still absolutely shit. Rangnick was pretty shit also but I think if he had a chance to buy a player or two things would have gone better.
 

Charles Miller

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Rangnick is 10 x 3^27 times worse. But Ole doesn't have that aura of hipster master and revolutionary of football.
 

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Really @PoTMS ? Must we stoop this low?
The season is over . Be relieved. Be happy. Whatever.

The future is ETH and neither Ole or Rangnick will be relevant. Let it go fella.
 

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Ole every time - got it wrong from the start. Didn't buy a goal scorer, bought poor defenders, never affected games when it wasn't going right. Left RR with very little hope