Who will get to 6 World Cups first?

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As it stands:

World Cup Winners with Multiple Titles

CountryTitlesTournament Winning Years
Brazil51958, 1962, 1970, 1994, 2002
Germany41954, 1974, 1990, 2014
Italy41934, 1938, 1982, 2006
Argentina31978, 1986, 2022
France21998, 2018

Brazil are in what looks like terminal decline - never in my lifetime have they been so poor across so many positions with barely anything in the pipeline to replace them. They’re going from bad to worse and with the way they are plundered for talent and no longer playing with a Brazilian philosophy and panache, it could take decades for them to recover, if they do. Brazil have been Brazil for at least half a century (let’s say 1958 - 2006), but the mystique started to fade in 2006 and hit a nadir with the 1-7 in their home World Cup. The new generation hold Brazil with little regard or acknowledgment of aura, for good reason really.

Germany have also plummeted from the heights of the past generation. They’ve also lost their way and identity, playing “un-German” Pepified football that is predictable and one dimensional. Unlike Brazil, Germany are constantly producing World class players, just not in sequence or uniformly as they used to where they had to leave one elite player out the team in lieu of another. I don’t think Germany have been written off and it may simply be a change of manager and approach has them return to their formidable stature as the team to avoid.

Italy are practically a mirror image of Brazil. Both seem to have completely lost their way and their collective quality in the first decade of the century. They’ve still won the Euros since, but they are even more of a World Cup non-entity than Brazil these last 16 years. Like Brazil, some serious work and overhauling needs to be done to restore them to former glory. Just like Brazil, Italy’s lore is in jeopardy of fading for those in their 20’s or below. They’ve not seen a: Baggio, Nesta, Baresi, Maldini and so on and so forth in their pomps. Will they ever get their own versions?

Argentina will no doubt lab up the next best ever candidate once this one hangs them up. Still in the running for a fourth at the time of writing. Once this tournament ends for them, you’d think there’d be a lull before the next super saviour emerges, but who is to say he won’t be on the scene by 2030? Outside of this as yet to be revealed golden child, Argentinian football looks pretty barren compared to their usual production line; Di Maria, Zanetti, Mascherano etc adjacents don’t seem to be emerging, but as is likely, they’ll have the Kempes>Maradona>Messi chain continue before the supporting cast assemble, given their propensity for the absurd.

France are the only team on the list in the ascendancy with even their current squad having at least another World Cup in them. When that squad has 3 legitimate Ballon d’Or contenders, it’s fair to say they are in a very good place. What is more is the French production line is ridiculous. They are on course to be the Brazil of the new half century, some might say. If they do go on to win this tournament, they’ve only 12yrs worth of trophies to attain to get to 6th first. As things stand, is it likely that anyone else on this list will stop them?



Spain, England and?? Would hope to lift the World Cup and interrupt proceedings. The Old Order is in danger of being left behind as far as I can see. Doesn’t matter what the present says as much as the state of their domestic leagues and the talent pools to draw players from. They’re going to have to overhaul as much as France, Spain, Germany and England have at academy level to compete. Do they have the financial resources to do that?

This is as much a thought exercise as something that would be fun for others to dredge up in the future, where views may well have done a 180 and the superpower that is Cape Verde are contesting for their 3rd World Cup triumph.
 
I'd still pick Brazil because they're the closest to it than everyone else. Football is a funny game, especially short tournaments played in the heat and with tired legs. A good draw and a bit of luck can help a good but not great team go a long way. I am old enough to remember when it seemed "obvious" that Germany would eventually lead the pack after their third win and 4/5 finals during 1974-1990. If someone had told you back then that a time would come when they would fail to reach the semis in seven tournaments (Euro & WC) in a row, you would have called him crazy.
 
Id still go with Brazil. This nation breathes football and they will rebound. Plus they are in the lead, with Italy and Germany certainly no better than them. However good France is, they have a long way to catch up and it is really hard to win elimination games that many times in a row which is why nations rarely repeat.
 
The only way Italy qualifies for a world cup is if they are hosting one, so not them. I would say Brazil or Germany, Brazil has young talented players that can form a solid team in 2030 and beyond.
 
It's gonna be Brazil or Germany.

Brazil is just one away from six, and despite their dramatic fall they are remarkably consistent. This is the first time they didn't make it to the QF since 1990 (lost in the RO16 to Argentina). It feels like only a matter of time before the stars align and they get that 6th WC.

France has clearly become the strongest national team though. But they need to win 4 more, and that is easier said than done.
 
France have the potential to win the next 3 unless other serious countries have a shake up. Not only are they stacked full of world class young players now, they’ve got some unbelievable talent coming trough. Brazil only being one off the obvious candidate and seeing as they’re every 4 years gives them time to go through another cycle.
 
Brazil. They'll produce enough players over the next generation or two to win one in the next 20-25 years I think.

As good as the likes of France are right now, it's extremely difficult to imagine them (or any nation ever) going on a run of winning 4 of the next 6 or 7 tournaments.
 
Brazil have been in a steady decline for the last 20 years. They really need to look at their league and the development of there youth players. Too many get farmed out across Europe and lose their way.

If I was putting money on it I'd go for Germany, they are going through a bad patch at the moment but they are clever enough to look at ways they can improve the standard of their youth development.
 
Brazil with just a revamp and better timing can do it with just one more to go. In WCs margins prevail and they are due to have better timing.

Germany knows how to be smart and rebuild. It's time now after some uncharacteristic WCs really bad results. They already have 4.

If France gets this one, they already have a Gen that can survive the next WC or even two more. They are in the right path that can become an autobahn.

Argentina needs to win this one to have any chance, because after this one there will be a need of huge renovation and scouting. Yet we are due to our GOAT alike fella more or less in the next couple of years or the renovation having Zanetti, Redondo alike fellas.

Spain needs to win this one asap. And try to go back to a core mostly of Barca and Real players. Still will be easier if they already had 3.

Italy is a mistery.
 
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So much can change with tournaments every 4 years. It could take France 2 or 3 decades to get to 6. Their minimum is 12 and that involves winning 4 on the spin, which is highly unlikely.

I'd be interested in what Italy are doing re their youth development. They need to be looking at what Germany and England did some years ago.
 
Brazil. They still produce huge amounts of talented footballers. I'm convinced they'll get it right eventually. Maybe need to go with younger players for the next few tournaments and stop picking older players who are clearly past their best. Bringing Neymar for example was ridiculous.

France are producing outstanding footballers at an almost unprecedented rate, so much so that many of them have to represent other countries as they can't get near the France squad. But winning 4 more World Cups is a massive ask. It could take half a century to achieve that.

Only 2 countries have ever won back to back World Cups (Italy 34/38 and Brazil 58/62), it's an incredibly difficult achievement.
 
Interesting that France is 'only' on 2 when Germany/Italy have 4. That being said, I expect Brazil to reach 6 first.