I just cringe every time I hear Neil Diamond...
Why are American chants so bad?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
How have I not seen that before? That is amazing.
We're not really a chanting kind of fanbase. That's not something that you see in American sports leagues so it's no wonder that when US soccer fans try to cook something up it's pretty lame.
Bingo.
And people might see this and think it means our leagues have no atmosphere, which couldn't be further from the truth.
I'd point to college football as a great example of what American sports atmosphere looks like.
Oh man they hated me on Friday. I was singing ‘This is how it feels to be City, this is how it feels to be small’ swap city with America. ‘I’d rather vote for trump than be a scouse’. The one that was met with horrors though was ‘Build a bonfire with America on top’.
Good crack and was hilarious seeing the Americans look in disgust.
They even didn’t like the Maguire song as it involved swearing.
Good crack and was hilarious seeing the Americans look in disgust.
They even didn’t like the Maguire song as it involved swearing.
Nothing stopping Grizzlies fans chanting ‘he cooks when he wants, he cooks when he waaannts, Ja Morant, he cooks when he wants. Poor to be honest. Only lack of inventiveness is preventing these classic chants in the NBA
It's the absolute worst.
Not a chant, but the way this commentator screams "goal" might be the most filthy thing I've ever heard 
https://streamff.com/v/no8IYLLsdo
https://streamff.com/v/no8IYLLsdo
It was a good free-kick in all fairnessNot a chant, but the way this commentator screams "goal" might be the most filthy thing I've ever heard
https://streamff.com/v/no8IYLLsdo
True. No need to ejaculate on Satan's gimp though.
He suddenly remembered his past as Vegeta's voice actor.Not a chant, but the way this commentator screams "goal" might be the most filthy thing I've ever heard
https://streamff.com/v/no8IYLLsdo
They way they refer to everything as a 'play', I just want to bitch-slap them so hard.
Nation tries to develop its football culture against the odds in an often hostile environment. Sometimes uses local colloquialisms when talking out loud. Is more powerful than my nation.
This makes me so fecking angry and sneery
This makes me so fecking angry
and sneery When they kick it in the lower 90
USA is too woke for Euro chant type. For lots of our chants, you go to jail there (or you are at least kicked out from stadium).
Don't think it's american but that's "Let's go" on repeat chant you hear in Tennis must be one of the worst in sport.
I’m just going to through this out there. I’ve been to 7 united games at old trafford, and North American sports are way better to attend. Everything is so docile at old trafford, no drinking and people don’t want to hear you yelling. I spent my time at old trafford half in the bag paranoid I’m going to get kicked out. For nfl, nba or mlb games I go to i can be a drunken idiot and have a good time
Hm, lately i do have a feeling (based on what i see on TV of course) that atmosphere on PL games is becoming more "civilised" and quiet. Maybe i am wrong.
The rest of Europe (especially southern and eastern Europe) is the place where old school chanting and supporting is still alive.
I remember a lady complained to security about me because I yelled “feck off” on an offside call and I was told to cool it. Definitely not worth the money
Depends where you sit.
If you’re in the family section then you won’t get much singing or abusive language. Nor will you get drunken idiocy as people have their partners and kids.
Sorry for my ignorance (us foreigners, eh) but in England there is family section, singing section, etc...?
Have you heard how the pronounce "Premier league"?
At most clubs, yes.
Family sections suck if you end up in one and you're not bringing your kids.
Don’t apologise as certainly not ignorant!
Yes there’s a family section and signing area (safe standing now too).
Traditionally though the Stretford End is the area you go if you want the best atmosphere. Always was more affordable.
Was that Cleese who knocked him out?The coed talent in the stands for American sports takes your attention span to another level after a few beers.....just saying!
And people from the north are poor!
“He’s got 21 goals in league play”Different supporter/fan culture. I have a hard time here explaining to them why a club that claims to have/had some of the toughest hooligans also has a giant bubble machine.
I love how Ted Lasso pronounces it
Irish lite, like Terry Wogan/Graham Norton.
No. Not like them at all.
Don't get me started on their pronunciation!
Dee-fence!
Haff-time.
United are up 3 to zero.
Stephen Fry. From 'A bit of Fry and Laurie'.
There are dumb phrasing everywhere, and, yes, US soccer chants are embarrassing. The phrase “gutted” is pretty lame too though. How many times a season can Shaw be gutted anyway? Last season it was often twice a week.
My stab at this, having lived on both sides of the pond. A few factors:
1) There isn't much tribalism in the States since the majority of folks in the states have moved many times in their lives. (Also explains the sense of humour -- lowest common denominator to enable it to translate across the country.)
So sporting events are really more entertainment than a show of one's personal identity/tribalism. The passion just isn't the same for their own teams. Having said that, college sporting events (esp college basketball) are 10 times more passionate and more 'tribal' than US professional sports, say in those 'shit chant' videos in this thread.
2) The propensity of being in a group or a mob-like environment is lower in the US. They tend to act more individually -- or have certainly been socialised to act more individualistic than say Europeans and Asians for sure.
There 'group expressions' isn't a common phenomenon. Personally, this socialisation runs counterintuitive to human nature. Herd mentality than the perceived 'rugged American individualism.'
That's also why Americans are susceptible to groupthink a lot. A sense of belonging to a community tends to kick in then. Ying & Yang.
3) Lack of creativity -- The US culture when faced with confrontational situations tends to be expressed in a more violent form. Its form of masculinity is just more violent with the availability of weapons etc, it's a good thing sports tribalism isn't that rife. They will express themselves and fight with guns more so than say the Brits, with words/chants. So linguistic expressions are less developed or repressed.
1) There isn't much tribalism in the States since the majority of folks in the states have moved many times in their lives. (Also explains the sense of humour -- lowest common denominator to enable it to translate across the country.)
So sporting events are really more entertainment than a show of one's personal identity/tribalism. The passion just isn't the same for their own teams. Having said that, college sporting events (esp college basketball) are 10 times more passionate and more 'tribal' than US professional sports, say in those 'shit chant' videos in this thread.
2) The propensity of being in a group or a mob-like environment is lower in the US. They tend to act more individually -- or have certainly been socialised to act more individualistic than say Europeans and Asians for sure.
There 'group expressions' isn't a common phenomenon. Personally, this socialisation runs counterintuitive to human nature. Herd mentality than the perceived 'rugged American individualism.'
That's also why Americans are susceptible to groupthink a lot. A sense of belonging to a community tends to kick in then. Ying & Yang.
3) Lack of creativity -- The US culture when faced with confrontational situations tends to be expressed in a more violent form. Its form of masculinity is just more violent with the availability of weapons etc, it's a good thing sports tribalism isn't that rife. They will express themselves and fight with guns more so than say the Brits, with words/chants. So linguistic expressions are less developed or repressed.
Because