Floyd Mayweather boasts about how much money he earns so much that he changed his nickname to 'Money' a lot of people think that is 'swag' or something too.
Why aren't we more angry about players' wages?
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Well if you're a match goer then in a way it is. Otherwise how would they get paid if people weren't attending the matches?
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Problem with what Rio argues is that F1 drivers lay their lives on the line and golfers are paid on the level of their performances. There are a lot of average footballers being paid ridiculous wages.
There are many ways to follow sports and even football on the cheap. Noone is forced to throw money in football.
Football is very meritocratic and wages are simply correlated to how popular it is. Top footballers are paid very handsomely because millions of fans pay significant amounts for football, not the other way around.
Football is very meritocratic and wages are simply correlated to how popular it is. Top footballers are paid very handsomely because millions of fans pay significant amounts for football, not the other way around.
I always remember in 2000 there was a massive outcry in the media when Roy Keane got a new deal on 52k a week which made him back then the highest paid footballer in British footballer.
At the time he was captain of a team who'd just won a historic treble.
What annoys me about football is the underachieving and motivation less squad players, not contributing to the team and just happy to bench warm most weeks earning more than the 50k + Roy Keane got.
Every underachieving team has 5-6 of them. Theo Walcott would be a good example in recent times.
Yes the obscene wages the main players have is an issue but at least they're the star players. Sums up the way football has gone that Dominic Solanke was allegedly on 50k a week at Chelsea and I assume is on a similar wage at Liverpool.
He has done nothing in senior football ffs.
At the time he was captain of a team who'd just won a historic treble.
What annoys me about football is the underachieving and motivation less squad players, not contributing to the team and just happy to bench warm most weeks earning more than the 50k + Roy Keane got.
Every underachieving team has 5-6 of them. Theo Walcott would be a good example in recent times.
Yes the obscene wages the main players have is an issue but at least they're the star players. Sums up the way football has gone that Dominic Solanke was allegedly on 50k a week at Chelsea and I assume is on a similar wage at Liverpool.
He has done nothing in senior football ffs.
The money is being made, I'd rather it goes to attracting top players than lining owners' pockets
Is it obscene? Football clubs make hundreds of millions on the back of their players. Why shouldn't players get a vast amount of that money?
Why would anyone be angry about it either? No one here pays those wages. It doesn't have any effect on the lives of anyone except board members, agents, players and managers.
Because the market seems their worth. Football generates the money it does based on consumer demand. The money will go somewhere. Better it go to the players than in the pockets of owners as far as I’m concerned.
Who cares what they earn. I'm more angry about my own wage.
I think players wages are an easy emotive target. The money that clubs, their owners and the media make piggybacking off the talent and labour of the players seem a more legitimate target.
The real target should be the price that the customer is being forced to pay for their football through sky and BT, ticket prices etc. Address this and a natural drop in the wages should surely follow. Fan community and identity has been sold off by huge businesses and the fan is there now just to be exploited for cash.
The real target should be the price that the customer is being forced to pay for their football through sky and BT, ticket prices etc. Address this and a natural drop in the wages should surely follow. Fan community and identity has been sold off by huge businesses and the fan is there now just to be exploited for cash.
Why would anyone be angry at the guys who actually go out on the pitch & provide the entertainment, getting their fair share of the money they help clubs generate?
Because revenue in Football is the same it was in 2000
The top end surgeons & engineers, also make what this place calls an 'obscene' amount of money.
There are overpaid footballers individually which would disgust me but unless you’re a devoted Marxist it’s tough to argue they’re overpaid generally. If anything the top players are underpaid relative to other sports given the field they’re up against.
The players are generating the revenue. They’re who the people want to see, the ones responsible for the spectacle and it’s better the money goes to them than to the owners. You could argue that it could be invested elsewhere in the game and within communities, but in the rat race of business that’s idealistic to say the least. Just look at the ticket prices to see the morals of most owners PL owners. I do think some sort of system should be in place for younger players but again that likely just lines the pockets of the owners even more.
Sure beats the NCAA system in the States, where players are essentially exploited on the promise of a “college education”.
The players are generating the revenue. They’re who the people want to see, the ones responsible for the spectacle and it’s better the money goes to them than to the owners. You could argue that it could be invested elsewhere in the game and within communities, but in the rat race of business that’s idealistic to say the least. Just look at the ticket prices to see the morals of most owners PL owners. I do think some sort of system should be in place for younger players but again that likely just lines the pockets of the owners even more.
Sure beats the NCAA system in the States, where players are essentially exploited on the promise of a “college education”.
Maybe but Roy Keane was one of the leading players in football at the time.
Paying bog standard players to bench warm on 60-70k a week is where Football just endlessly wastes money. Every club is guilty of it.
I'm not angry. But at the same time I feel no sympathy for players getting injured. Sure, it hurts. Sure, you won't be able to walk for three months. But that's your job. You get paid to do that job.
Someone like Badstuber or Wilshere gets paid millions for playing around 5 games a year. Why would I feel sympathy.
Someone like Badstuber or Wilshere gets paid millions for playing around 5 games a year. Why would I feel sympathy.
I think people are annoyed at it, but what can fans do? Unless fans start boycotting games, their wages will stay the same. Mahrez is the perfect example of a primadonna. He earns 100k a week (or whatever it is) and then has a hissy fit when he can't move to Man City in Jan. His friend then says he's "depressed." Give me a break, there's people with real depression out there who are suffering and this guy is acting like that - disgrace.
If you want to be mad about something look at the owner's box. Almost all problems in Football go back to the owners.
A lot of people in this thread saying "market forces" and "demand and supply" have no idea of what the feck they're talking about. By no means is football a perfect economic market, where wages are a sole function of supply and demand.
Separate from the moral angle @Brwned is coming from, but it's a point worth making.
Separate from the moral angle @Brwned is coming from, but it's a point worth making.
Sebastian Vettel is apparently on 80 million per year at Ferrari 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/allens...worlds-highest-salaried-athlete/#65ad22996c1b
Why haven't I even heard a fraction of the outrage about his salary compared to football players?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/allens...worlds-highest-salaried-athlete/#65ad22996c1b
Why haven't I even heard a fraction of the outrage about his salary compared to football players?
Why get angry about how much footballers get paid? Business people decide if they are worth the money they get and they know better than us. I have to admit I'm a little jealous of people earning that much money but getting angry about it is silly and a little sad. If you want the club to be a local social or community program, or the abandonment of capitalism then support FC United.
Make tickets free (merit, geography, lotto based with donations to club based and authorized charities earning you preferential odds) and the wages will already drop to balance out. Yes there is more money in the game but why is it all going the side of club owners and players. Heck drop televising costs, which reduces income for TV companies which reduces what they shell out to clubs which in turn reduces what players get. Football is one example of many for industries which have just skewed too horribly in favor of the few
Why is the onus on the players to take a pay cut? They earn a fraction of what these sometimes-billion dollar clubs earn, why can’t this money come from elsewhere at the club? Beyond that, what makes you think, even if they took a pay cut, that the money would go to grassroots? Illogical to blame the players for receiving the money clubs will pay for them.
this has got to be the worst thread on the caf
are you really questioning the capitalist forces of the world? what a ridiculous reaction to a loss
are you really questioning the capitalist forces of the world? what a ridiculous reaction to a loss
That's a pretty huge amount.
I don't fancy anyone reading it here going for that, let alone those for whom that amounts to 7 digits.
A little bit more of a niche market though don’t you think. Policemen, nurses, engineers are all jobs that a vast majority of the population could do if they trained for it. If I got up tommorow and decided that I wanted to become an electrician I’m sure within a few years I would be one, the same couldn’t be said if I decided that I wanted to be a premier league footballer.
I can only assume the "its not my money" crowd don't pay for anything football related. Don't buy season tickets, don't buy kits, stream the football etc.
Or put another way, wouldn't benefit from cheaper tickets, free/cheaper football on TV, grassroots football, community projects etc.
Or put another way, wouldn't benefit from cheaper tickets, free/cheaper football on TV, grassroots football, community projects etc.
Lower player wages would not go to any of that. The Glazers and such would just pocket all the money they saved.
I dont give a shit what they pay them , the money is not coming out of my bank account.
I do think they are paid far to much though.
What I do expect is them to perform and today they did not do that.
I do think they are paid far to much though.
What I do expect is them to perform and today they did not do that.
I buy tickets and kits , my kids play grassroots football ,lowering players wages would not make it any cheaper.
I'm angry about it.
What is there to get angry about? they are paid what what their employers think they’re worth just like the rest of us
id rather get angry at capital than labor, but yes
if the money wasnt going to the players then it would just be more profits for owners
I also pay, granted not much as match goers. Point it is- nobody is forcing the owners to pay footballers that much. Market regulates wages.
And also- do remember that only top footballers get paid obscene amount of money. Top 2 divisions clubs in England, Spain, Italy, France hire what 3% of of all professional footballers. The rest earns peanuts for risky and relatively short career.
That's true. But I'm not angry about the wages they get.
That's the market. Only a tiny proportion of the population make it, and there are far many more journeymen footballers.
You think they should earn less so they can entertain people for free?