Ah. Too bad.
Wilfred Ndidi - Leicester Player
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I think you are missing the important part. Tielemans has work rate and he is discipline. We have yet seen how we can get the best out of Pogba without extra support. Kante and Matuidi were the work horse in France. Vidal and extra centre back were the work horse in Juventus. It might work against the bottom 8 teams or teams that sit back.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Pogba is a midfielder and honestly speaking I'd cash in on him ang get a more suitable replacement.
This is more of a general idea that Ndidi fits our team perfectly.
If you have someone who cant be counted on for his positioning, Ndidi is exactly the type of player you'd want because he can make up for that by stealing the ball and ending an attack
I expect our new midfield to be good in positioning but also still capable for passing and has composure on the ball. Because I can guarantee you we will still see one of Fred & McTominay to play in our XI to pair with that new midfield especially against the top and mid table teams. Fred/McT pair with Ndidi is just bad match up.
Not sure why people pull their plonkers over this guy, his actual footballing ability is bang average.
This might be true if Ndidi was our only midfield signing.
The problem is, Fred and McTominay is our only option against the big sides. There is no alternative, because neither of them can hold DM position on his own. There is a chance McTominay becomes that player in the future, although I don't see it.
Getting pure DM makes us more secure in midfield and enables us to have someone more attack oriented beside him, whether that is this summer or next is a different matter. Maybe Pogba grows into that role, maybe van de Beek, maybe we switch to some kind of 3 man midfield. Neither of those options are possible right now with Fred or McTominay.
Ndidi is a typical DM, not a deep lying playmaker but he'd do well for us I'm sure, because Leicester play similar way to us in midfield.
What would you suggest to do?
I don’t see it with him, i think he’d frustrate our fans if he played here with his constant sidewards and backwards passing.
He's very much a pure destroyerl
See, I think he's the perfect foil for Pogba precisely because of that
Yeah watching him I think he's one whose poor ability on the ball would be highlighted on the ball a lot more at a club like United. Seems overrated to me. Physical and defensively good but you need more at a top club
He’s actually not been as good for the past month.
Whats your take on him? Do you find he turns back rather than going forward? I very rarely see him move forward with the ball, although is probably balanced out with Tielemans, just feels he could do a bit more whenever I watch him.
His job isn’t to be creative, he’ll look to go forwards but if it’s not on his job is to retain possession
Casemiro hasn't needed more.
He is very limited on the ball. If we ever signed him expect him to be an AWB infront of the back 4. Not at all what we need ImO. We need someone quicker and sharper and comfortable in moving the ball around.
Casemiero is much better on the ball. Not great but at the desired level. We also play with Bruno and not Modric Kroos to run play so there's that.
I’ve never been a fan.
Probably, but it wouldnt matter because the team would be better due to his defensive positioning and ball winning
Nah, Casemiro isnt much better on the ball, he's a bombscare in tight spaces. He's got a slightly better passing range that's all. Solid second point though.
7 tackles, 2 interceptions, 1 aerial and also importantly you can play Tielemans next to him who has attacking quality too as we saw with that great goal.
Ndidi, Soyuncu, Fofana and Kasper - thats what you want defending your goal
Ndidi, Soyuncu, Fofana and Kasper - thats what you want defending your goal
But the Caf made fun of Soyuncu.
I’d take N’didi and Soyuncu in a heartbeat. Would sort our defensive and set piece problems immediately. A huge improvement on Fred and Lindelof.
Did great for the Leicester goal back against Chelsea. Pressed high up the pitch won the ball and played a quick and decisive pass into Iheanacho inside the box. He has the vision and a pass when he wants to
There is no chance his passing is worse than McT & Fred, but his defensive work is obviously superior. So, it would be a great signing and would improve our first 11 considerably.
I agree, Ndidi alongside either Fred of McTominay would be a solid midfield, and a slightly more creative one. Not sure we could afford him realistically, unless VDB and/or Pogba were sold.
Yesterday Chelsea had 17 shots at Leicester’s goal. 6 on target. Two goals scored. One disallowed.
When they played us they had 6 shots, with 1 on target. Zero goals scored.
Something doesn’t add up…
Did Chelsea not have 2 goals disallowed?
Oh yeah. Good point. I was checking the onefootball app for those stats, which only mentions VAR disallowed goals. Although maybe harsh to use offside goal as criticism of defence?
I know people pointing out he's just a destroyer / DM. But do we need anything other than that in a midfield that has Pogba and Bruno in there? The days of a 2 man midfield are gone. At least with a DM specialist it frees us from having to play 2 deep lying midfielders. We just need someone that can defend and break things up in midfield and then get the ball to Pogba or Bruno. We're not looking for the next Scholes/Keane.
Stop suggesting this plodder ffs.
Yes we need someone who can run the midfield because we have Pogba and Bruno in there. Neither are reliable at running the midfield and passing the ball in the buildup. Both take risks and give away possession a lot too.
Top teams usually work with a destroyer because they have playmakers in other areas of the pitch
Probably, but their defence was all at sea for that one too.
What do you mean by run the midfield? As in someone that focus purely on defensive duties? That's what I am saying in my post. I think Ndidi is limited in what he does but I think his speciality fits perfectly when you have Pogba and Bruno. If you're looking for a player that has more attributes than just defensive in midfield then you should be looking to get rid of needing a 3 man midfield too. Which isn't ideal given our current squad.
Denis Zakaria would be less than half his transfer fee and looks a better all round player. Ndidi struggles to control the ball at times and wouldn't get away with the amount of fouls he does every game at United. If we bought him I'd expect fans to constantly criticise his limitations as a player. Morgan Schneiderlin mkII IMO.
I think his form has really tailed off in recent months tbh.
Its form, simple as that. Wilf is struggling for it. It always happens like that for us, everyone takes a down turn together. On form , we can beat anyone, and have, off form, we are absolutely shite. Quite simply, we dont have the depth of squad to see it through. But, we won the cup! Winners are grinners!
we did though, we could easily have played an extra midfielder last night, we had 3 fresh ones on the bench, Rodgers seems to play with a 14-15 man squad and its quite odd
Fred / AWB have been criticized to death for what they do with the ball not only their ability to break up play. We wouldn't be satisfied with a pure ball winning player. He has to have a pass on him as well even if its not his main strength.