It's odd that the first and second had a similar run time given the flow of the two moviesIt wasn't a great fight scene but i can understand why WB pushed for its inclusion if they did. Without it Wonder Woman wouldn't have actually did much fighting over the 2 and a half hours runtime.
Yeah there was a few ways to write that without going down the route that they did. But has anyone or group been very vocal about the rape scene?Not really. Maybe? Kinda?
I dunno. It's definitely an odd choice from the female director of a Wonder Woman film made in 2020.
Some criticism of the body rape has been popping up now: https://collider.com/wonder-woman-1984-steve-trevor-return-explained/I thought Jenkins had been very shrewd with the previous entry, in constructing it entirely around Gadot’s weaknesses - making her a confused fish out of water so that her simplistic delivery came across as sincere naivety, and making the whole Amazonian supporting cast ape her accent rather than let her attempt one...and in fairness to her, this film massively backs up how smart a move that was! ‘Cos this one gives her stuff to actually act, and boy can she not do it!
Just a giant incoherent mess of a superhero film with hardly any superheroing, helmed by a lead actress that can’t act, a love interest that aggressively undermines both the film’s pseudo-feminism and its plot (why does he get zapped into the body of some rando, who Wonder Woman then essentially rapes, when the MaGuffin is shown repeatedly to be able to simply materialise shit!?) and a story-line that seems to have been written during an improv workshop, where the writers tried to out “yes, and...” the next escalating plot development rather than expand on anything they’d set up (Was the prologue where Diana was chastised for taking a short-cut from a completely different version of the film where not taking short cuts was actually a thematic element that carried through? Or did they just think the slide looked cool?!... or was the shortcut “dont wish your dead 70 year old boyfriend back to life to feck in the hollowed out husk of a yuppie, when you could maybe, I dunno, try and feck the actual yuppie??”... is that what that last scene was about!!??? I mean, it’s a stretch, admittedly.. but then, what WAS it about!? And why was it Christmas all of a sudden?? Or was that simply ash from the nuclear fallout of all those warheads exploding in the sky!?... does everyone remember all of this?? WHAT WAS HAPPENING!!!!?? )
There’s just absolutely no need for it either... the film clearly establishes that the stupid mind-rock-wish-thingy-man can materialise stuff out of thin air... we see it ACTUALLY DO THAT at one point, and a major plot escalation revolves around President Johnathan Creek-Man wishing for more nukes, and a shit load more just magically appearing (not “appearing in the body of other weapons”)Some criticism of the body rape has been popping up now: https://collider.com/wonder-woman-1984-steve-trevor-return-explained/
And yes, Gadot can not act. Basing the climax around her having to give a monologue was a downright terrible idea.
Yeah, agreedKinda yeah if you think about it. Steve trevor is technically in another persons body and they do there thing at some point. But it's ok because she's a woman.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1512235/I wonder if there will ever be a movie about an average looking super hero.
Not that I take offense, I don't mind watch Gal Gadot prance around in her silly outfit. Just wondering. I mean it seems appropriate, she's called wonder woman after all.
I'm more outraged at the editing.No one is actually outraged about the “rape”... it’s just an amusingly bad, weird and completely unnecessary wrinkle in a film that already has very confused sexual politics. As with all “over analysing” - if it was a good film, with well explained or depicted oddities, no one would care... but when its a car crash of nonsense, the stupid shit is less forgivable.
This is not hard
To be fair I don’t think you can over analyse insanely stupid plot points in a clusterfeck of a film like this one. When there isn’t much positive things in the story to talk about.I somehow watched both these films back to back.... and I don't know why. I knew, and mean, knew that the Wonder Woman hype was overblown due to it being a moderately decent entry in the otherwise woeful Snyder-verse.... but my goodness, this one was back on form. Why do I punish myself? I'm back to ignoring this world.
Though as horrifically bad and silly as it is, some of the criticism of it, like, well, yeah, the 'rape', really really sums up a lot about the current fad of really truly over-analyzing films. Maybe I'm wrong, but meh.