tentan
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wish we could do the same nowFergie didn’t buy world class players. He created them.
wish we could do the same nowFergie didn’t buy world class players. He created them.
I mean that's not totally true though, and he certainly tried toFergie didn’t buy world class players. He created them.
Schmeichel
De Gea became WC
Stam
Rio
Vidic
Evra
Keane
Scholes
Beckham
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
RVN
Cole / Yorke combo was wc during 99
Tevez was never World Class, can probably sub him out and put Giggs in. Would also add RVP
I’d add Carrick and swap RvP for Tevez.Schmeichel
De Gea became WC
Stam
Rio
Vidic
Evra
Keane
Scholes
Beckham
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
RVN
Cole / Yorke combo was wc during 99
Which world class players did he buy? I mean you could probably put RVP in that bracket.I mean that's not totally true though, and he certainly tried to
I’d add Carrick and swap RvP for Tevez.
I see some folks on here trying to act like Giggs wasn't world class same folks think Vinicius and Bellingham are world-class. Giggs was wanted by every club in Europe and he chose to stay at United every time. He gave his all for this club and maintained a high standard into his late 30s even 40s. Man at his peak was unplayable. Multiple world class performances on the biggest stage too. I get it's cool to now rip him for all his private antics but that has absolutely nothing to do with is ability on the pitch.
I see some folks on here trying to act like Giggs wasn't world class same folks think Vinicius and Bellingham are world-class. Giggs was wanted by every club in Europe and he chose to stay at United every time. He gave his all for this club and maintained a high standard into his late 30s even 40s. Man at his peak was unplayable. Multiple world class performances on the biggest stage too. I get it's cool to now rip him for all his private antics but that has absolutely nothing to do with is ability on the pitch.
Bought RVP and Veron, wanted Ronaldinho, Batistuta, Shearer, Del Piero, Gascoigne etc.Which world class players did he buy? I mean you could probably put RVP in that bracket.
Bought RVP and Veron, wanted Ronaldinho, Batistuta, Shearer, Del Piero, Gascoigne etc.
It's not like he strictly went after youngsters or something. It just turned out that we had a freakish youth class that all turned into huge contributors for a decade together so it wasn't necessary to constantly buy top players.
Agree. Tevez had his moments but for most parts was a very frustrating player to watch, similar to Berbatov or Nani.
VDS was definitely world class for us tbh.
Tevez was world class.Tevez was never World Class, can probably sub him out and put Giggs in. Would also add RVP
Forgot to add RVP. Carrick I think was very good but not really world class imo.I’d add Carrick and swap RvP for Tevez.
Tevez was world class.
To me it’s if a player can get into any team in the world, I also have a GOAT tier for players that would get into any team in history.Define world class?
I agree with all of these except for Neville, he had too many physical and technical flaws to be in that category.To me it’s if a player can get into any team in the world, I also have a GOAT tier for players that would get into any team in history.
Schmicheal
VDS
Neville
Irwin
Evra
Ferdinand
Vidic
Stam
Keane
Scholes
Robson
Beckham
Ronaldo
Giggs
Cantona
RVN
RVP
Rooney
Don’t know, he definitely was.How is Beckham not world class?
That is a pretty good list but I don't think Neville or Vidic makes mine.To me it’s if a player can get into any team in the world, I also have a GOAT tier for players that would get into any team in history.
Schmicheal
VDS
Neville
Irwin
Evra
Ferdinand
Vidic
Stam
Keane
Scholes
Robson
Beckham
Ronaldo
Giggs
Cantona
RVN
RVP
Rooney
Not at Utd he wasn't. He was in far better shape physically at City and Juventus. He was good for us in his first season and scored some important goals, but I wouldn't say his performances were world class.
Bahaha surely you can't be serious?On VDS, a great player of course, but if not recruited by Utd in his twlight years, would probably be remembered as a good player playing for a mid-table / bottom club.
DDG on the other hand, was hunted by RM, if not for that unreliable & treacherous fax machine (from DDG's perspective), probably made in Manchester.
What team in the world was Rooney not getting into between say 08-2012?Players that would have gotten in any team in the world during their prime.
The others would have always had somebody else better than them during their time.
The only one below that is a bit controversial is Scholes as there were a few others around his level when he was in his prime (2001-2008)
Schmeichel (1994-1999)
Stam (1998-2000)
Rio (2006-2009)
Keane (1998-2002)
Scholes (2001-2005)
Giggs (1996-1999)
Ronaldo (2007-2009)
RVN (2002-2004)
That is all.
I can't comment on Pallister but Vidic was absolutely immense. No doubt world class for me.That is a pretty good list but I don't think Neville or Vidic makes mine.
I would have Pallister in front of Vidic in a Utd team but I still would not call him world class.
Neville was really good but I think a player needs a bit more to be in a world class bracket.
Fernando Torres wouldn't agree with you.I can't comment on Pallister but Vidic was absolutely immense. No doubt world class for me.
Fernando Torres wouldn't agree with you.
The bloke had one good game against Vidic when he was knackered, had a flu, a bad dream just the night before, and didnt feel like it at the time. But it shall be echoed throughout the history of mankind that Torries exposed him for being a fraud CBFernando Torres wouldn't agree with you.
Vidic was a great defender, I just don't put him in the world class bracket.Not that old myth again.
Maybe the flaw in my thinking but I was comparing late 90’s Neville to players of today, rather than the late 90’s, but even then you can move Zanetti in midfield or left back and Thuram to CB to fit Neville in at RB, and Cafu is in my GOAT tier.I agree with all of these except for Neville, he had too many physical and technical flaws to be in that category.
He also wasn’t getting anywhere near some of the teams at the time.
Not sure what version of Neville you’re referring to, but lets say late 90’s or early 2000’s.
You had Thuram, Zanetti, Cafu who are all time greats in that position.
You had the likes of Sagnol, Angloma, Panucci, Pessotto, just off the top of my head who were as good if not better than Neville.
I’d argue Brown during 07-08 was as good as prime Neville who was playing behind Beckham for most of his career who was a hard working winger, and did his defensive duties well most of the time.
Don’t know, he definitely was.
From 98 to about 2001 he was one of most effective players in the world and the numbers he produced playing as a wide player in a flat 4-4-2 were incredible.
Such an important and clutch player for us at the time.
Define world class?