Ainu
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They did, only 17 years ago.Infrastructure & Safety? If that’s a big factor they should hold it in Japan.
They did, only 17 years ago.Infrastructure & Safety? If that’s a big factor they should hold it in Japan.
Sure, but I'd rather we didn't bankrupt the country for a WC opening game.I would like a Uruguay-Argentina world cup.
Makes sense to celebrate 100 years of WC where it all began.
Nah, Argentina already made the point the final should be in the same city and stadium that couldn't hold a Libertadores final. Uruguay can have the Opening shitshow for the nostalgia factor. Paraguay was invited by Argentina without us even being asked. Increasingly looks like a great multiway project where every single party can blow up their budgeta and then try push the cost/blame to another.Wouldn't be against it at all. Argentina obviously providing bulk of stadiums, Chile upgraded a few for Copa America in 2015 and obviously final would be at upgraded Centenario. Not sure what Paraguay would provide bar their national stadium in Asuncion.
Nah, Uraguay and 100 years bollocks.It's absurd that the UK have only hosted it once. Whatever folks say, it is the spiritual home of football. Add the iconic stadiums, ease of travel within the country, fantastic connectivity with the rest of the world and large migrant population - it should make for an amazing WC.
Qatar because reasons.Nah, Uraguay and 100 years bollocks.
Maybe we should revisit every country after they hosted the World Cup after 100 years. So England can get it in 2066.
Argentina too. They couldn’t even bloody host Boca Juniors vs River Plate. They had to send that off to Spain ffs.
England doesn't have enough oil money in brown envelopes knocking aboutIt's absurd that the UK have only hosted it once. Whatever folks say, it is the spiritual home of football. Add the iconic stadiums, ease of travel within the country, fantastic connectivity with the rest of the world and large migrant population - it should make for an amazing WC.
I’m just pointing out that you can’t beat Japan on those 2 factors.They did, only 17 years ago.
Ok you made your point. But what is bollocks for you might not be for others. I hope that the ones who make their presentation are less pretentious than you.Nah, Uraguay and 100 years bollocks.
Maybe we should revisit every country after they hosted the World Cup after 100 years. So England can get it in 2066.
Argentina too. They couldn’t even bloody host Boca Juniors vs River Plate. They had to send that off to Spain ffs.
That's bound to happen when there's no needless oversized infrastructure to be put in place.England doesn't have enough oil money in brown envelopes knocking about
Being Uruguayan it isn't bollocks to me, but I also know we are basically getting taken for the ride of what will essentially be an Argentina bid with a massive bill to spli four ways.Ok you made your point. But what is bollocks for you might not be for others. I hope that the ones who make their presentation are less pretentious than you.
Not pretending South America is heaven, and he might have some points regarding England. Its just the fact saying South America no because England this, or that on Argentina happened that so lets take the Libertadores to Spain. Fed up with Eurocentric vies and I am from here.Being Uruguayan it isn't bollocks to me, but I also know we are basically getting taken for the ride of what will essentially be an Argentina bid with a massive bill to spli four ways.
100 years ago we were a young country, 80% of the population had immigrated in the last 50 years. We bankrolled it. The stadiums, the infrastructure, the transatlantic journey for all teams... We needed all of that anyway but yeah, football should be grateful we did.
Today we've been running a 4% deficit every year for 15 years and still have white elephants from hosting the Copa America in 1995. We don't have or need any of what FIFA requires. It's sad, but that's them shakes.
It’s not about being Eurocentric, it’s a fact that the WC needs Europe more than Europe needs the WC.Not pretending South America is heaven, and he might have some points regarding England. Its just the fact saying South America no because England this, or that on Argentina happened that so lets take the Libertadores to Spain. Fed up with Eurocentric vies and I am from here.
Anyway regardless of that @Bojan11 ignore what I said and move on.
What don’t tell me you’re coming with the famous they need us more than we need them?It’s not about being Eurocentric, it’s a fact that the WC needs Europe more than Europe needs the WC.
Yet FIFA are screwing with European countries at every turn.
It's true, yet allocation for Uefa is going down and down all the time, whilst the confederations who basically field teams who fail at every turn (AFC and CAF) are getting rewarded, 1/3 when the tournament becomes 48 teams, this despite utter European dominance since 2006?What don’t tell me you’re coming with the famous they need us more than we need them?
Anyway the European country who deserves more is England I give on that.
I think the minimum stadium capacity requirement is 40,000 and they’ll be 16 stadiums in 2026. England currently doesn’t have 16 with 40,000 and I think Twickenham are known for not wanting football to be played there.England has more than enough stadiums, why do we need a joint UK bid?
Our largest stadium has a capacity of 16000.Slovenia, Austria, Hungary.
Do it there, please.
China already has 16 stadiums above 55,000 capacity, Fifa want it there, Xi wants it there, they just need an excuse to change the bidding rules.I think the minimum stadium capacity requirement is 40,000 and they’ll be 16 stadiums in 2026. England currently doesn’t have 16 with 40,000 and I think Twickenham are known for not wanting football to be played there.
1. Wembley - 90,000
2. Twickennam - 82,000
3. Old Trafford - 75,000
4. London stadium - 66,000
5. Spurs’ stadium - 62,000
6. Emirates - 60,000
7. Etihad - 55,000
8. Anfield - 54,000
9. St James’ - 52,000
10. Stadium of Light - 49,000
11. Villa Park - 43,000
12. Stamford Bride - 42,000 (new stadium ? 60,000)
13. Goodison - 40,000 (new stadium 52,000)
14. Hillsborough - 40,000
15. Elland Road - 38,000
16. Riverside - 35,000
I’m sure many of those stadiums (as well as Leicester’s, Derby’s, Southampton’s, Wolves’) could have their capacity increased though if England won the bid.
A joint UK bid would add
1. Milllenium - 75,000
2. Murryfield - 67,000
3. Celtic Park - 60,000
4. Hampden - 52,000
5. Ibrox - 51,000
The feck is this?https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ns-football-world-cup-with-spain-and-portugal
Ukraine to bid for 2030 men’s football World Cup with Spain and Portugal
- Bid backed by Zelenskiy and due to be confirmed on Wednesday
- Competition includes Egypt-Greece-Saudi Arabia collaboration
This shit is getting out of handhttps://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ns-football-world-cup-with-spain-and-portugal
Ukraine to bid for 2030 men’s football World Cup with Spain and Portugal
- Bid backed by Zelenskiy and due to be confirmed on Wednesday
- Competition includes Egypt-Greece-Saudi Arabia collaboration
Wait until Putin's rival bid of Russia and red American statesThis shit is getting out of hand
There's basically so much money at stake for some people that they'll come up with random ideas to weave some tale, any tale/pitch.The feck is this?
Ukraine won't be a warzone by 2030.Yes, let's make the world cup more exciting by hosting it in a warzone. Suppose Spain and Portugal are hoping they will get the sympathy vote similar to Eurovision.
Yeah for certain people going to a warzone will be far less dangerous than going to Saudi Arabia.Ukraine won't be a warzone by 2030.
I think the idea is to have just one group play their matches in Ukraine and the vast majority of games, including all knock outs, would be in Portugal and Spain. It sounds ridiculous and borderline compassion-seeking but I'd much rather see this than a World Cup in Saudi Arabia. Hopefully Portugal/Spain won't need the inclusion of Ukraine to win the bid.
If that includes Texas, I'm all inWait until Putin's rival bid of Russia and red American states
Agreed, always thought them doing a joint bid in 2002 was a mistake and the quality ended up to be rather questionable.These random joint country bids are utter wank.
You must be absolutely correct but how any personage could possibly envisage a world cup in the middle of a war torn country to be a good idea is beyond me.There's basically so much money at stake for some people that they'll come up with random ideas to weave some tale, any tale/pitch.
I'm not talking countries, or FIFA authorities, just people that worked their way into bid committees and hellbent on spending the next decade on the World Cup gravy train.
Final would be held at St James’ Park.feck Saudi Arabia hosting it. Egypt would also be awful.
Gosh, let's please don't start this discussion again, I'm not sure I can survive another round of bullshit from people having issues with understanding the orders of magnitude and claiming Qatar / Saudis / USA / UK / Russia / China / Germany / you-name-it are all equally evil and all deserve exact same criticism.Yeah for certain people going to a warzone will be far less dangerous than going to Saudi Arabia.
I'm not even joking.