If we ever end up handing over the full £68m for Bruno, then I will gladly eat my words. I won't hold my breath though.
Would no money spent in January indicate Poch in the summer?
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Poch fancied Bruno too apparently...
Ahh so this was schrodingers window. Both buying and not buying confirms that ole isn't being backed.
I honestly don't know why one would imply the other.
Sorry to bump an old thread but this feels relevant to me. Am I the only one that suspects that this same thing is happening now? Obviously switch January to summer transfer window. Ole isn’t getting backed. Poch is still sitting tight. Could be just me though.
whow much would that cost the board though? Sack a manager then pay for a new one after saying Sancho is too expensive
Ole got what, a year and a half left? Feel like if things don’t go to plan they’ll pull the plug very quickly.
Pure speculation of course as was the op but can’t help but get that feeling again.
Just feels like that's where we are heading, we are on repeat cycle, again..!
No.
Pochettino is dreaming of a job in Real Madrid. Why would he be interested in a job that can only end in failure? It will nearly destroy his future chances of getting a top job. After all, the biggest critics of Pochettino always point at his CV that doesn't boast of a single major trophy.
Fully expect Ole to get dumped when things start going downhill. It's the pattern, it works for the Glazers, so why would they change it? No idea if it'll be Poch, who cares at this point.
The lack of backing is directly CV19 related, it wouldn't cost the club that much to release Ole, and he's got a high success rate with his recruits. Nothing to see here.
Fingers crossed no money spent means the Glazers are thinking of selling the Club!
Why would we actively undermine a current manager in order to pave the way for a replacement, when we could just fire that manager now
This might be the silliest thread on CAF, which is quite an accomplishment. No need to engineer the failure of a manager just to bring in his replacement. If the club wants Ole out and Poch in, we’ll sack Ole and hire Poch. End of.
Because it's what we did to Mourinho? Woodward has a track record of losing faith in managers but waiting for encouragement from the media and fanbase before pulling the trigger.
Difference is Jose`s sacking was coming especially after how toxic things got after losing to Sevilla and his whining during pre season Ole has never kicked up a fuss and has not had a toxic moment like Jose vs Sevilla so I genuinely fail to see why he`d just throw him under the bus outta nowhere. He`s just incompetent as hell
It's all hypothetical of course but Ole still has a lot of support from the fans. If they sack him now the pitchforks would be out for Ed and co if Poch (new manager) didn't succeed straight away.
Maybe their thinking behind it ( hypothetical) is if they don't supply players that Ole needs leading to a bad campaign they'll feel more justified about bringing in another manager.
Given some of the transfer windows we've had with managers we've wanted to keep, I wouldn't take this repeat as a sign that this is a manager we want to ditch.
We're just not good in the transfer market, simple as.
We're just not good in the transfer market, simple as.
It would mean the club has lost near 150million due to a global pandemic and are trying to save on costs for 6-12months...Jesus, the state of our fanbase at times.
Absolutely not. It would mean that someone's taking the absolute piss.
It's extremely rare to do good business in January anyway.
It's extremely rare to do good business in January anyway.
Better hope we get Top 4 or they will be in serious trouble.
@ this thread. Doubt Poch would join this shitshow exec team anyway.
This is the exact opposite of how you want to identify, recruit, and sign players...not by the manager, but by the type of football you want to play. First and foremost, you need technically adept players who have the requisite physical traits and mental capacity to then develop and improve within the team....that doesn't require a specific manager, that's just developing raw talent through repetition and professional structure.
Identifying and recruiting players is a consistent thing and it should never be relied upon by the manager. The club itself should already know what players need to be upgraded on or can be upgraded up in immediate, short-term, and medium-term windows. That way whenever something happens to the player's availability or a player you've scouted is showing availability in a transfer window, then you're prepared to engage within the right channels and you're more efficient in the process.
Identifying and recruiting players is a consistent thing and it should never be relied upon by the manager. The club itself should already know what players need to be upgraded on or can be upgraded up in immediate, short-term, and medium-term windows. That way whenever something happens to the player's availability or a player you've scouted is showing availability in a transfer window, then you're prepared to engage within the right channels and you're more efficient in the process.
Yet clubs with vastly inferior resources to us like Villa and Everton are outspending us and the Champions have also not stopped spending. COVID can simply not be used as an excuse they`ve had all summer to look at alternatives to Sancho or other ways of improving the team they are just incompetent cnuts and money hungry bastards who couldn`t give a toss about winning who would happily let us finish 10th if it meant more money into their pockets
I'm not so sure of that. Ole is maybe just the perfect manager for the Glazers, just like Woodward is the perfect CEO.
The one relief of this season so far has been the death of the constant Pochettino nonsense. Please god don't bring it back.
Sad thing is people would get enthused before the exact same thing will happen again. The manager, no matter who they are, is powerless. Fergie only worked cause he was untouchable by the time the glazers took over. Now every manager comes in on the back foot needing to prove themselves and those who run the club have no interest in success, resulting in the managers demise.
If we weren't a poisoned chalice before, we definitely are now. What world class manager or up and coming manager would want to come here and risk their reputations. At least clubs like Chelsea have remained relatively successful throughout their managerial merry-go-round winning titles under Mourinho and Conte. We have been a sorry excuse of a "big club" for eight years and counting now.
Doubt Poch would join this shitshow exec team anyway.
Ahh seeing another old Amadaeus moment brings tears to my eyes. This window, it is obvious we are working on bringing in new players before the window closes. But, Woodward and the board doesn’t want to get fleeced. Just like how Ole was focused on getting Maguire, I feel Sancho is the same in this window. He should just focus on a squad option for now like Sarr or even Dembele on loan to buy, then if there is significant progress in the team performance, he will get the funding to sign Sancho again if still interested. There is no indication that our lack of significant spending means Pochettino will sign. It just mean that we are trying to get the best deal for us and the target we are trying to land is not a straightforward acquisition
No money because this club is completely flatten
If No top 4, Ole goes upstairs as DOF and Poch takes over.
It is. Doesn’t matter who is in charge they will always be undermined.
No. The same thing has happened since the retirement of Sir Alex and even before that. Bring in a new manager, give them what they want for the first season, and then little to no progression the following season. Rinse and repeat.
Whether people think we were fortunate or not, Ole got us third last season, which has shown progression from last season. In order to continue progressing, we need to bring in better players. Unfortunately, the Glazers haven't got the same level of thinking.
Whether people think we were fortunate or not, Ole got us third last season, which has shown progression from last season. In order to continue progressing, we need to bring in better players. Unfortunately, the Glazers haven't got the same level of thinking.
The United Board won't be in a rush to sack manager who they know will happily smile and nod along while they sanction little/no investment in the squad.
He's a dream for an incompetent like Woodward, because he knows Ole will never publicly undermine him.
He's a dream for an incompetent like Woodward, because he knows Ole will never publicly undermine him.
But much of our financial situation is circumspect around the capabilities to finish in the top 4. If Ole isn't backed that won't be achieved. We do not have Klopp in charge, Solskjaer needs investment to make it and the owners know this.
Woodward et al probably think that the squad is good enough for a 4th place finish as it is.
A decent run of form post-lockdown and fans being kept away from stadiums for the foreseeable, has probably convinced them to skip the investment in the squad for this summer. They know that Ole is out of his depth and won't complain and if things go really badly they can just bin him next summer.
Ole won’t be sacked anytime soon.
The squad is good enough for top 4. The point was to push on with the correct investment. Then we would know if Ole was truly out of his depth.