Doubt that the Glazers seriously want to sell yet. Expect them start considering it in a couple of years down the line, when they realize that ESL will never happen, while they can not compete resource-wise with Abu Dhabi.
Would you be happy to see the Glazers sell to Saudi Arabia-backed owners?
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Yup. I don’t feel proud to say I’ve been pro SA as our owners consistently here.
They are the ONLY option if people want to see an improvement on what we’ve had under the Glazers. Everybody knows it but nobody likes it.
For many reasons it wouldn’t be anything like City being owned by their oil barons.
We just need an owner that doesn’t seek a return on what would be an astronomical outlay.
but would you rather the Saudis that will give the fans a 50% share in the ownership of the club and invest heavily or would you rather continue with the way it’s run by the Glazers?
Parasite pill vs Sports washing pill?
Choose a pill?
Sadly I’m not powerful enough financially to make a difference
Choose a pill?
Sadly I’m not powerful enough financially to make a difference
So the Saudis will pay 4bn for the club, pay off the debts, then give 50% to the fans, effectively throwing half of that money away and also the veto right they have on using the club in anyway the fans deem unacceptable, then invest some more in transfers/infrastructure? Who exactly do you think they are, magical fairy godmothers?
And even if they do that, the answer is still no. No matter what the ‘they are all as bad as each other’ crowd might say, there’s a big fecking difference between being owned by greed driven capitalists who grease the palms of politicians who might or might not have sanctioned war/arm sales, and a regime that is right at this very moment actively carrying out a literally fecking genocide in a neighboring country, it’s not really close, and being the sport washing vehicle to rehabilitate the image of those monsters isn’t worth it no matter how many world class players or facilities you may have.
That's a fair question. I have seen many polls here which seem ambiguous enough that you cant answer in a simple Yes/No
It’s depressing that anyone here thinks being owned by the Saudis is worth it if it means on-pitch improvement. Get your priorities sorted.
I don't think that is actually essential though. For example, other day one of the posters listed out everyone who supported ESL, and asked to mock and shame them so to speak.
That was a nonsensical thought though. This is a forum. Different opinions and arguments should be encouraged
Because people would not be able to use the feature sensibly. The forums would be poll after poll because some people think polls are interesting when they aren't really all that.
It’s obviously a hypothetical question, I don’t think for 1 minute it will happen, I was just wondering how people’s moral compass would swing with a that scenario.
If you don't care about the history or traditions of the club and just want to be a fan of a team that spends obscene money on new players every year, then it is rational to support a prospective Saudi ownership.
I sense that there are a lot of fans of the club (you see thousands of them on Twitter screaming "wah wah, daddy daddy, want want!" every time a transfer window comes around) who would fall into this camp.
Would you sell your soul to the devil and all that.
feck no is the only answer for anyone with an ounce of respect for this club.
feck no is the only answer for anyone with an ounce of respect for this club.
No.
I mean, what's even the point of being fan to a club owned by people who spit on human rights.
If so my loyalty will go to for instance Forest Green Rovers instead.
I bet they aren't owned by Saudis down there in League 2, and I like their name. Oh the irony if they actually are owned by the Saudis.
I mean, what's even the point of being fan to a club owned by people who spit on human rights.
If so my loyalty will go to for instance Forest Green Rovers instead.
I bet they aren't owned by Saudis down there in League 2, and I like their name. Oh the irony if they actually are owned by the Saudis.
I am against Saudi buying our club and using it as a vehicle for their propoganda.
But, to play devil's advocate: How many of you will boycott the 2022 World Cup in Qatar due to the well publicized human rights violations for migrant workers building the stadiums?
But, to play devil's advocate: How many of you will boycott the 2022 World Cup in Qatar due to the well publicized human rights violations for migrant workers building the stadiums?
Get the feck out of here with this. The majority can claim a moral high ground, and calling "that human rights statement" silly is fairly shocking. I mean, I get that you feel entitled to supporting a club that wins everything, that much is clear from your general posting, but don't try to fecking whatabout away the awfulness of the Saudi regime.
I dont want us to improve that badly. Its one thing to be doing the odd sponsorship deals with them, its another to be whitewashing their image for them.
I'm English and I'd be just as fecked off at the ridiculous idea of the British monarchy owning United.
In 2021 though, when the purchase would be made, you can't compare the monarchy of Spain or England to the current human rights atrocities in Saudi Arabia.
I'm not going to Qatar, sounds like a fecking dog shit World Cup.
I think we have a big enough of a fan base that in the event of a potential takeover, there will no discernible loss of revenue from match day attendance or social media following. But then again, there’s no particularly convincing reason to doubt the integrity/moral compass of people opposed to this. It’s just a game at the end of the day. If all everybody ever cared about was success/having the shiniest toys, there wouldn’t have been that much backlash within our own fan base about the ESL.
Sell? Yes. To the Saudis, no. That goes for any petroleum monarchy/dynasty. Haven't we learned the lesson from Chelsea's and Man City's owners?
Given the choice between the two options I would prefer the Saudi ownership as we would not need to be dependent on them in terms of revenue. Their resources could be used in infrastructure in terms of stadium upgrade or a new build stadium.
I personally feel the club was much better ran when Martin Edwards was in charge
I personally feel the club was much better ran when Martin Edwards was in charge
Genuinely don’t believe more than 10% of our fan base would support this, I for one don’t but let’s be clear here it’s the sort of thing the Glaziers would do if they eventually decide to sell, the reality is that even if they do, the Saudi consortium especially if it’s the same one that tried to buy Newcastle will still not be welcome in any way or shape! For those of you who believe In the hypothesis that Sheikh Mansour was the driving force on stopping them buy Newcastle and his power base has now diminished after recent events, you should think long and hard about how that would sit with Georgie fans and the current Newcastle Chairman who would take the PL and the government to the High courts for compensation !
This is never going to happen let’s all move on to realistic potential owners ?
We deserve a little bit of harmony after the recent events !
This is never going to happen let’s all move on to realistic potential owners ?
We deserve a little bit of harmony after the recent events !
i heard Spotify owner, a Swedish billionaire, is attempting to buy Arsenal, is there any tech billionaire who can buy Manchester United? Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos?
who the richest British tech billionaire?
who the richest British tech billionaire?
Some things are considerably worse than your bog standard capitalist business owners.
So NO. Absolutely not
Saudi's buy the club.
Renovate OT.
Help with fan ownership (50 + 1).
Saudis buying us would be the only realistic way of this happening. Any consortium/rich business owner will want their money back. Saudis, for even PR purposes, could afford to make a loss on the club to "give back to the fans", whilst scoring massive PR points. Afterall let's face it, that is what they will be in for mainly.
Renovate OT.
Help with fan ownership (50 + 1).
Saudis buying us would be the only realistic way of this happening. Any consortium/rich business owner will want their money back. Saudis, for even PR purposes, could afford to make a loss on the club to "give back to the fans", whilst scoring massive PR points. Afterall let's face it, that is what they will be in for mainly.
This whole "buy a club for PR and whitewashing reasons" thing has never made sense to me. I didn't know much about Qatar and their skeletons until awareness raised by them buying City and hosting the World Cup. They need to dispose (not literally, unlike Khashoggi) of whoever advised them that this would be a slam dunk in terms of PR. Who thinks Qatar is ruled by a benevolent liberal family?
So Becks is too poor right?:-(
Saudi Arabia is the scummest of countries and I'd take Glazers million times over them.
Saudi Arabia is the scummest of countries and I'd take Glazers million times over them.
City is Abu Dhabi, mate
I'm guessing you still don't know! (Palm to face)
Roy Keane's pretty tech-savvy with insta
No
Racist comment. Not very funny at all.
Potato, tomato
The Saudis are the only people to be that flamboyant to buy us. Four billion is a lot of money to spend on a toy.
Hmm .. maybe. I haven't been around long enough here to know but it's probably worth just allowing by default and restricting if things get annoying. Maybe that's what happened as well.
I think that's exactly what happened. If you really really really want a poll on something you can always message a mod directly with your request. Most of them are helpful enough.
I wish everyone would, including all the players. A world cup that was bought with bribery and built with slave labour, being staged in a desert country that hates human rights. What could be better.
Looks like they are all related.
He is nowhere near, I mean light years, away from having enough money.
99.9% won’t have the funds, of the percentage that do many will want a return on the £4BILLION outlay, which would make the Glazers dividends look like the equivalent of that draw in your house full of old foreign currency.
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