That's always been the daftest claim ever.
Give Ole until the summer at least, and hope he can get a couple of players here in January. Then if things don't change go for Pochettino.
Why? No one will come in January for him. "hope he does something in January" equates to taking a punt.
Agreed.
What’s the point of bringing in someone new, who won’t be able to get anyone they want in January as well? They’re not going to magically change our style or players attitudes either.
Are you trying to suggest a team coached by Ole will perform the same as a team coached by Allegri?
Doesn't every time we bring in new players "equate to taking a punt". You are dismissing the first 14 games we played under him when he came here. He was our saviour then. Now everyone wants to throw him under the bus. Woodard promised him replacements for both Herrera and Lukaku but got neither.
No, I’m suggesting allegri will not do anything with a squad he will inherit in jan. If you take his 4-2-3-1 formation he used at Juve, who the feck is he going to play in these positions, what differences will he drill into these players that would do anything different?
I'm not dismissing anything, I didn't want him as perm then because I knew those games didn't reflect his actual form as a manager. The matches were clinical and nothing more. They were against bottom fodders on top. And now, obviously, it's normalised to his actual ability as a manager.
A managers job isn't just setting the formation. Allegri would undoubtedly get far more out of the players than Ole would. That's beyond debate, let's be honest.
i know that, that’s why I asked what’s he going donget out of them that’s different. You might get another dead cat bounce with ole, but you’ll tail off again. If this was the summer, I’d be on board, but you’re just setting up another manager to fail coming in jan.
Allegri is an actual coach, he has pedigree of coming into a team with bang average players and dragging them up the table. Bringing him in raises our chances of finishing top 6/top 4 and then having the actual pulling power of top players next summer.
There is players out there available, And if "taking a punt" is what we need, then so be it. But the scouts should be assessing them now and making arrangements for the move, if they are the right ones and passed by Ole. Then taking that Punt could change things around.
The risk with this argument is what happens in early March......
Same thing could happen with Allegri in charge, mate. If we could only see the future, eh.
Not a chance it would happen with a manager on the caliber of Allegri (who I personally don’t want).
See your point, but mine is there is on sense or sign of change under OGS - he took advantage of a post Jose bounce, got lucky against PSG & has been void of ideas since then.
Players aren't available outside of Mandzukic really. And no one outside of you is saying we need to take a punt.
The whole transfer market has changed massively since then. You're clutching to two examples 14 years ago.
The scouts don't have any control over making targets available. They can do their job and identify talent, but that doesn't mean talent is available in January.
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In a way it was a test in CL because they were underachieving in European competition under Conte while dominating the league.
Right fit to what?????
That’s essentially what I’m saying though. Figure that out and then hire the next manager - don’t just bring in whichever big name manager is currently jobless.
I get what you're saying, I just think there is a risk of sleepwalking towards relegation while OGS remains absolutely lost at the wheel
No, that’s not it. As regards Solskjær, I think we should stick with him as manager for as long as it takes to know whether he can bring progress to the club as a manager. To me, it’s way to early to have a qualified view on that now, yes, but if we get dragged into a relegation battle we can’t handle, if he loses the wardrobe, if there is no progression on the training ground, then he could go before the end of the season in my view. If not, he should get at least a couple of windows. If we are not close to the top of the table next season, He might go too. The caveat is if the people close to the grind (i.e. not us) see that he is doing so much terrific developments around the field that they are confident it’s worrth the wait (as the case was with Ferguson).
Well if you go back and read the last line of that post is my answer to the bold bit as firmly place the blame on him going on holidays rather than start straight away. As for comparing lamps and Hazard to the one dimensional AV and the hot and cold act of Nani is madness (sorry) and vidic was on his last legs when moyes took over and Oscar played a big part in him winning the league.
