I don't get the point of this. Why is this journo even posting a poll made on other site? What did we get from this for him to inform us? That fans on a certain forum are supporting him to stay? Maybe on other forums they wouldn't? Totally useless.
I don't get the point of this. Why is this journo even posting a poll made on other site? What did we get from this for him to inform us? That fans on a certain forum are supporting him to stay? Maybe on other forums they wouldn't? Totally useless.
What we get is a perspective. Majority in ours wants Ole out, not in some others. Ideally the truth is somewhere in the middle. Lot of people are sitting in the fence regarding this decision.I don't get the point of this. Why is this journo even posting a poll made on other site? What did we get from this for him to inform us? That fans on a certain forum are supporting him to stay? Maybe on other forums they wouldn't? Totally useless.
It's just a poll on one site. It means nothing, just like the poll here too. Both are small sample size. I'm not blaming you but blaming the journo for that totally useless tweet that adds nothing in general.What we get is a perspective. Majority in ours wants Ole out, not in some others. Ideally the truth is somewhere in the middle. Lot of people are sitting in the fence regarding this decision.
We had an almost 25-30% shift over here in one week. Wouldnt be surprised if similar changes are seen among other fanbases in the next couple of weeks, if this run continues.What we get is a perspective. Majority in ours wants Ole out, not in some others. Ideally the truth is somewhere in the middle. Lot of people are sitting in the fence regarding this decision.
The bar was set low for Ole and the bar is now even lower for anyone coming in. So deliver goods from Day 1 for anyone coming in is not "Get this team to Top 4 at the end of the season. Its just going to be about "ATLEAST getting results against the likes of Rochdale, AZ and Newcastle."What concerns me about sacking Ole now is the kind of signals we send, both to the players and to any future manager.
Basically we tell the players that "you are not to blame at all", even though many of them clearly are not good enough and i imo many of them have poor attitudes. And to whoever we hire in Ole's place we basically tell them that "you need to deliver the goods from day 1, or you will get sacked and have your reputation dragged through the mud"
All the names that gets thrown around: Ten Haag, Nagelsman, Poch, Allegri etc....would they want the job?
As in I dont think the majority of our fanbase want Ole goneNegative in what sense? I think it’s negative anyone wanting this awful manager & awful football to stay.
No Im not into watching matches - I prefer to just chat bollocks on internet forumsDo you even watch our matches every week? He's been here 10 months now. What positives are there to take from Solskjaer's management that we see on the pitch?
. Those fans deserve him. In the words of a top red. When he leaves I hope they go with him!!
That poll is absolute crap. Don't worry. No fanbase in the world would be so stupid to still support a manager like that.. Those fans deserve him. In the words of a top red. When he leaves I hope they go with him!!
Me too. Enough if this ''United way'' bollocks, that died when SAF retired. These so called match going fans are causing more issues and agony for the rest of us as far as I'm concerned. They're the fans that can actually make a difference but they continue to accept what is lower than mediocrity at this point.. Those fans deserve him. In the words of a top red. When he leaves I hope they go with him!!
It's agenda driven, but i just don't understand why? What's the aim and who is bankrolling these opinions?It's a stupid poll there's a reason they've tagged on the labels rather than a straight yes/no.
Of course there's a way he can still make it but that doesn't make it a good idea not to sack him.
I think it's just worse with United fans because we've all been conditioned to look at the manager as being bigger than the club.It's agenda driven, but i just don't understand why? What's the aim and who is bankrolling these opinions?
As someone who advocates for Ole staying, i merely asked what objective reasons do you have for that. Thanks for dodging the question with an unnecessary response. Says it all.No Im not into watching matches - I prefer to just chat bollocks on internet forumsDo you even watch our matches every week? He's been here 10 months now. What positives are there to take from Solskjaer's management that we see on the pitch?
Yes if results don't turn up then certainly possible. I'm on the edge right now myself though i have kept my vote to keep him.We had an almost 25-30% shift over here in one week. Wouldnt be surprised if similar changes are seen among other fanbases in the next couple of weeks, if this run continues.
Why the hmm? I voted in that thread, and it is populated by matchgoers. Not surprised at all that the ones who actually matter, and the ones who actually put in the hard yards following the club, think that the manager who hasn't been backed to a significant degree at all, deserves more time...
Reducing the poll down to one match to dumb down it's results and by extension the debate. What a great idea. Congrats!Should have another poll - would you be happy for United to lose against Liverpool on Sunday if it meant Ole was sacked YES or NOOOOOOOOO ?
Oh lighten up ffs, can I put you down as a Yes?Reducing the poll down to one match to dumb down it's results and by extension the debate. What a great idea. Congrats!
I wish there was something to lighten up about!Oh lighten up ffs, can I put you down as a Yes?
Yeah, fair enoughI wish there was something to lighten up about!
Of course not. As much as i believe Ole hasn't got what it takes going forward, i would never be happy to see us lose. I will be rooting for the team as always come match-day. You can't put people in a box like that. It's too simple.
Yeah, fair enough
I apologise for the belittling comment above. I should know better. With the disastrous results for many months and the resulting fan base being split into two groups of general opinions, it feels like you're talking to the enemy and not fans of the same team on here sometimes.Reducing the poll down to one match to dumb down it's results and by extension the debate. What a great idea. Congrats!
There’s a reason journalists are cherry picking some ridiculous pro ole forum poll. They want to try & spread the narrative that Ole needs more time as they know that’s absolutely the worst thing for this club. They love seeing us kicked down & this is the sort of stuff they do to try & keep us there
Ask a stupid question ...As someone who advocates for Ole staying, i merely asked what objective reasons do you have for that. Thanks for dodging the question with an unnecessary response. Says it all.
Which journalists are cherry picking?!There’s a reason journalists are cherry picking some ridiculous pro ole forum poll. They want to try & spread the narrative that Ole needs more time as they know that’s absolutely the worst thing for this club. They love seeing us kicked down & this is the sort of stuff they do to try & keep us there
They would because they would see Ole being sacked for having worse results than Newcastle in the last 17 games. Any manager on that form would now its expected to be sacked. Or do we have a worse squad than Newcastle?
Try to put yourself in their (other managers) shoes. They will see their predecessor having getting sacked 8(9) games into their first full season with an infamous CEO and a squad that has not pulled up trees exactly.The bar was set low for Ole and the bar is now even lower for anyone coming in. So deliver goods from Day 1 for anyone coming in is not "Get this team to Top 4 at the end of the season. Its just going to be about "ATLEAST getting results against the likes of Rochdale, AZ and Newcastle."
Compare that to which other high end club that offers better security? Name the club please? Chelsea? Bayern?Try to put yourself in their (other managers) shoes. They will see their predecessor having getting sacked 8(9) games into their first full season with an infamous CEO and a squad that has not pulled up trees exactly.
Does that sound like an enticing job offer? Sure the pay might be good, but if we are looking for a "young progressive" coach as everyone here wants then it would be the mother of all risks taking that job
Public = sing for the team in the ground. And rightly so.In public. In private, not at all.
No - Red Issue doesnt exist anymore!I've never been on this site. Is this TopRed.com?
I don't think anyone is saying all non matchgoers are lesser supporters. However you can be sure UWS has a much lower percentage of casual supporters that aren't that knowledgeable but are happy to throw their weight around online because it costs them nothing.Your entitled, arrogant attitude is getting very tiresome. Not all of us live in Manchester or England so I'm not sure what we are supposed to do about that or why that makes us less important or less entitled to an opinion than someone who does.
No probs, we're all trigger happy at times - and you're right it does feel at times as though i've been transported onto a ABU website.I apologise for the belittling comment above. I should know better. With the disastrous results for many months and the resulting fan base being split into two groups of general opinions, it feels like you're talking to the enemy and not fans of the same team on here sometimes.