I would actually prefer Tuchel and Nagelsmann simply due to their style of football being more exciting. If we can get them that is better.
Why is he perfect? Some players can't hack Old Trafford, some Managers too, even Mourinho and LvG were taken aback at the size of the club and when you consider some of the clubs they've Managed it says a lot, what's to say Pochettino won't be swamped by the size of the place and crack under the pressure.
Arguable; at Soton, the manager just before and the one just after had better records than Poch.
Let's steer clear of the Wolves manager then, I can't stand watching them.
Not as massive gamble as give the job to someone like Ole with virtually no experience in Premier league and only having coached in some third rate league. Poch has managed in pl for several years and done well and out squad quality is quite similar to Spurs. And the previous managers you mentioned have done much better and won trophies with us. Utd are now like bad case of inbreeding with all these people formerly worked at the club causing disabilities. We need fresh ideas, and Poch is as safe a bet as we can get.
Probably the same reason Gatusso is at Napoli. Or Zidane at Real. The same reason Lampard is at Chelsea. Or even Arteta at Arsenal.
Yeah Gattuso at Milan worked wonders for them.
No. He managed a massive talented side in secunda B and failed to take them up. But the players loved to work with him. Just like players do under Ole.Yeah Gattuso at Milan worked wonders for them.
Arteta for Arsenal also looks like a phenomenal success
Zidane didn’t manage some side in Scandinavia for 10 years and relegate a Spanish side before being given the job at Real, did he?
The day of last years CL final if Poch was offered to us as manager would you have taken him? I think 80% of the forum would. Yes it broke down for him in the end but that doesn't mean he all of a sudden became a bad manager. Working with Levy it was bound to break down, especially with the new stadium being built with not a lot of transfer funds and their players getting paid a lot less than at other clubs. It just reached the point of no return.
There is absolutely no correlation between Zidane and Ole - the clubs they managed, the squads they took over and so on. However some blind Ole supporters like you, not United supporters, can’t bother to see that.
Can ask the same about some with Ole apart from being a former player. He has the same credentials as the current Molde manager that won them the title.
And the evidence of this is?
I find it incredible that Ole in crowd keep comparing Ole with proven winners. If Pep or Zidane in their first season finished as Ole did last season they would of been out the door. Spurs and Arsenal were hovering around the same position as us when they got rid of their managers. I'm sure if Arsenal don't drastically pick up Arteta will be out the door come the end of the season. Valverde after all he won at Barca out the door. How many managers have Madrid or Bayern shown the door after winning titles? Even Chelski? The list is endless but the biggest difference between us and them is they have standards. Ours have fallen so low that people are now thinking that 6th place is some sort of achievement.
Ok
Zidane managed a team that would be equal to League Two before taking over Real Madrid. Still he didn't do that bad, in Champions League.Yeah Gattuso at Milan worked wonders for them.
Arteta for Arsenal also looks like a phenomenal success
Zidane didn’t manage some side in Scandinavia for 10 years and relegate a Spanish side before being given the job at Real, did he?
Same old, same old. Hate and I'm better supporter than you because I want Solskajer gone".
As you also can say that Pochettino or more then half of the elite managers has exaclty same amount trophies as you and me. There goes that credentials talk.
No but you don't get it. 6th was always the target, even if we get it with 43 points.
I can't help thinking that judging Arteta after 9 weeks might be a tad too early.Yeah Gattuso at Milan worked wonders for them.
Arteta for Arsenal also looks like a phenomenal success
Zidane didn’t manage some side in Scandinavia for 10 years and relegate a Spanish side before being given the job at Real, did he?
Hence not appropriate example he used. I’m not sure why he even mentioned Arteta in the first place.
Zidane want a manager for 10 years in some obscure league, neither he was a failure in lower La Liga side before taking over Real.
The difference with Zidane is Zidane took over in January and finished 1 point behind barça in the league and the small matter of him winning the CL.
I expected 6th pre season so I'll judge him on that at the end. Spurs are favourites for 5th.
If anyone thinks us stumbling to the CL is a convincing enough argument for us to keep Ole then they’re dead wrong. Winning the FA Cup wasn’t enough to save van Gaal as it was patently obvious to anyone watching that the football was dreadful with no signs of improving. We need to formulate a genuine footballing identity beyond vague and generic terms like ‘high energy’ (which we still aren’t seeing) and attacking football (which we also aren’t really seeing). I’m sure it goes beyond what Ole says in pressers but it’s hard to see much of anything on the pitch.
In general nobody expects you to win the title or the CL when you manage Spurs or Southampton. He does however have a very record of overachieving with the budget at his disposal. I guess a FA Cup could be lacking, but there is a reason why Poch is highly rated as a manager and rated much higher than Solskjær. I don't think he'll come in and be our Saf, but I think of all the avaible candidates atm he is the best one.
So who you backing? I suppose we have to release all managers come with faults. I more see it as who’s best fit for the current core players we have.
Conte seems to be doing well with our deadwood.
Ole is getting better stats out of Rashers though...and his signings look a marked improvement over Mous....we’ve had injury and injury and all I want is for Ole to have our best team out again this season to see how it performs.
Leaning towards Poch at the moment, then Nagelsmann and then Tuchel.
Everyone wanted them outta here Let’s not start beating Ole for that. Their attitude and ability started to stink out the place for the money they were on. Smelling for instance had a decade here and if he’s performing well in Italy, shows the gap between the leagues.
Let’s hope he takes more. Lingard, Pereira, Jones....
Then try at compare Ole and Poch record in the PL.
I wonder if Zidane stays in a job if he performed like Ole this season?
Poch had Southampton in their highest point tally since the inception of the PL, so I'm wondering what the southampton guy before him did to have better record?
In his first season at Southampton Pochs lead them to 8th place which was the highest league position for them since 2002-2003. He did so with the highest points tally since 1992-1993. I have my share of concerns about him as well. His narrow systems will piss off many fans at United + he doesn't seem keen to work with DOFs. However he's a far better manager then Ole is.
So? Still he had no manager experience and still got job. Therefore, people talking about "what has Solskjaer done before" should look at those examples and see that you don't need to have CV full of titles to make something at a big club.
Relevant, because of discussion "what has Solskjaer done". Before ManUtd.
He overachived with Southampton. He did absolutly nothing in Espanyol and left them in relegation. With Tottenham, he did improve them, but that improvement was not that big looking at Tottenham before him. So overachiving is a strong word. I would say slightly improved.
Put anyone, including me and you in PSG or Bayern and they would win. Those leagues are finished before they even starts.
I'm sorry but people were saying the same thing about us. That we were too big too fail. Yet LVG and José failed to to consistently deliver the bare minmim which was top 4 despite spending massively in transfers and wages. In general Poch outperformed them in the league with a netspend of 15 mil pr season.
