Bruno's position is vital in a Solskjaer team. The difference in creativity is already very apparent. It also illustrates just how bad the likes of Pereira, Lingard and Mata have been. Passengers playing important roles.
To you maybe it sounds "basic", but playing simple football is the most difficult thing in the world. Our players tend to over-complicate things, they either take way too many touches and the attacking momentum is lost, or they chose the wrong decision (can't spot a player in a better position, they go for the shot instead of a pass, attempt to dribble when they should pass it etc) so we end up playing ourself into trouble because we take the most difficult route to goal. For example, when we had Rashford fit and firing he made run after run behind the opposition defensive line, excellent runs, and no a single teammate picked him out. Other players also made excellent runs but where ignored by their teammates. I saw visibly frustrated attackers (especially Rashford) almost every game. Imagine if we had taken the simple route instead.
Good luck changing it, even if you wanted to
Bang on the money, but it will no doubt fall on deaf ears.
Absolutely not. The poll is done. You yourself made a thread where we all outlined our targets/ circumstancesfor changing our minds either way. I think even the 50 percent who voted for an immediate sack in January are now resigned to the fact that nothing will change until the end of the season. The Board too has hopefully given Solksjaer their own targets. We have to wait and watch and for the betterment of the club pray that we somehow make the CL. Yes we scraped through against Chelsea via massive chunks of luck and blind VAR and also got 3 points against Watford at home (nowadays thats a big achievement). Let's see how many more freakish wins we can gather. We will need as many as we can get.
Yes the SLP and WUM's have had their say/fun, the End, no more.
No one is arguing that he wasn't - but he has been rebuilding the entire club after 3 managers failed signings.
You're fisrt sentences sounds very Brexity, no one can change their mind in changing circumstances!
Those 3 managers eventually all got sacked, but have had better records than him. I just don't think giving Ole another transfer window is going to change much. And quite possibly, could set us back further.
Don't forget the cultists, apologists, relatives and those living in Birdboxville.
Who from now on in will be known as the Nearly 29%ers
Depends on what is your definition of change. Or what is your definition of success and what satisfies you. I still do not perceive any change having taken place as far as my club's fortunes are concerned. I will call change when I see it happen for real.
Now on?
I've been called everything under the Sun for supporting the Manager but not yet a nearly 29%er, so yeah
I don't think so. For ages man has known these 28.8 ers. They are a fabled bunch. The real men who state at goats.
well then isn’t it worth reopening the poll unless we’re presuming everyone thinks exactly the same as you.
I stated my personal opinion. Which worth jack all in real life. I just hope we do not miss out on managers who can make a difference.
Just so that other posters are aware, this fecking thread, which should be on page fecking 22 now, always end up at the top of the forum because of shit like this. These were the first two posts after yesterday's win, the first posts in like 36 hours.
This.
It shows better players produce better performances, i mean crazy right who would have thought it! Maybe if we buy the best player in the world in every position we might even improve some more.
Exactly, he isn't making the team greater than the sum of their parts and that is why he'll eventually be proven not to be good enough.
I believe most who wants Ole to continue actually does this. Just sayin'.
Yeah, because our transfers so far has been horrible right. If we add another 2 players of the same calibre as our current new signings we'll be top 4 more or less by default.
If the end of last season is anything to go by, probably not.
This is the basis of the Ole out/Ole in argument. Ole in thinks that Ole or no manager can get much out of the squad we have due to injuries or the 'average' players like Lingard, Pereira, Matic etc. While Ole out thinks that Ole should be able to do better with this squad in terms of style of play and results.
We already tried that with Jose with disastrous results. The progress of Martial, Rashford, Fred, Shaw was seriously stunted during that time. Greenwood and Williams would still be without a cap if that philosophy had continued here.
So why not look at the bigger picture like most people. Some coaches don’t like brining through youth. Jose Conte for etc. Some coaches can manage youth to and develops them. We need a coach that does the latter but at a better standard. Ole’s football is also dire.
This is a good post and has given me food for thought. However I'm still not certain it lends more credence to Ole. Like, if he wanted to play 'simple football' that is gonna rely on expansive use of the pitch like we did under SAF and Liverpool too, in which case the type of full back becomes paramount. So why would be sanction signing of AWB who is incredible at defending and pretty average and clueless going forward (though he is getting better and I like him as a player). You would think if that was your plan to be expansive and play 'simply', that for £50m, in the whole of world football, you would be able to find a fullback who can deliver balls into the box like TAA or get past defenders, as well as be decent at defending. It's another part of the things that 'don't add up' about his tenure. Just like with the 'ok im not gonna replace Lukaku, it will be ok, oh shit its january and we have injuries can we please get any striker in from anywhere thanks'.
I think he signed him because, as a previous winger, AWB should have the potential of being good offensively. He's 21. There has been obvious signs that they are working on getting him to play more offensively lately, like his assist to Martial against Chelsea.
True, but if there is one thing Ole has gotten credit for, even from some of the people who want him out its how he has improved individual players. Rashford, Martial and Fred has undoubtedly improved under him, McTomminay and Shaw its hard to tell because the former is so young and he might just follow his natural development and Shaw has been good before, but has always been set back by injuries and poor form.
You say it's a myth but thats just an opinion and one that not many share. I personally think when you look around the league even just this season it's obvious which managers get a lot out of their players due to coaching/system. Unfortunately we're not one of them. That could be on Ole or the coaches but the distinction is meaningless.
I'm just going to try and be a contrarian here. I'm not Ole-in by any measure, but this is something I don't quite subscribe to. Let me explain why.
So true. Not to mention how big effect the "under-dogs" mentality has for those kind of teams. Just look how well it goes for us when we are the inferior team. Guts, graft and mentality can work wonders.
