ArjenIsM3
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I don't think there's anyone available who can turn this sad bunch into a good team. We just don't have enough talent in midfield and attack. There's no point in sacking him. We won't suddenly do much better.
Yet somehow performing just as badly with a team he's had 5 years to develop.Pochettino is lightyears ahead of Ole.
If there's even a slight chance we could get him we should sack Ole tomorrow and give Pochettino this squad and see what he can do.
I'd predict if he was our manager tomorrow we'd finish top 4.
I agree with this post with the exception of Pochettino. Too many people on this forum have turned it into a dump suggesting that the likes of Rodgers would improve this side. Allegri is a very good manager but not for a club with a less than ideal squad that can't attack.I don't think there's anyone available who can turn this sad bunch into a good team. We just don't have enough talent in midfield and attack. There's no point in sacking him. We won't suddenly do much better.
At the end of the day it comes down to the quality of the players.I don't think there's anyone available who can turn this sad bunch into a good team. We just don't have enough talent in midfield and attack. There's no point in sacking him. We won't suddenly do much better.
Ya, I respect that the squad is going to improve in his hands at least. Improvement compared to the previous 3 managers, that much is certain. Shame they can't get their tactics across to the players as I really wanted them to succeed.You'd have to say keep him, but he isn't making the best case for it. He's obviously not the best tactically, and we look absolutely bereft of ideas going forward. So disjointed, and toothless. Really is Moyes level stuff.
But we gave him 3 years, and the club seem to be briefing that we've hit the reset button and it's different this time. You have to let him see it through. His signings have been good, so at the very least he'll leave the squad in a better place than he found it.
He has performing badly now but I don't think it's down to him being a poor manager. Rather him and Spurs players reached full saturation. He needs a new challenge and the players need new coaching and managerial ideas. The exact same thing happened to Klopp by the end of his tenure at BVB.Yet somehow performing just as badly with a team he's had 5 years to develop.
That's not what I'm saying Summit.Are you saying Ole is the best manager we can get that will get the most out of these players? In other words have we hot the best manager in the world?
While that is true, there can sometimes be some merit in delaying the inevitable. Sacking a manager in June paints a very different picture to sacking one in October. The latter is a full-blown crisis.I'll sack him now. We're just delaying the inevitable. This is going nowhere.
Why?I don't think there's anyone available who can turn this sad bunch into a good team. We just don't have enough talent in midfield and attack. There's no point in sacking him. We won't suddenly do much better.
Bayern sacked Carlo Anchelotti in September at nearly similar timing. I don't think it means much anymore and with or without sacking, everyone know we're in a crisis already.While that is true, there can sometimes be some merit in delaying the inevitable. Sacking a manager in June paints a very different picture to sacking one in October. The latter is a full-blown crisis.
It's like you don't know our board at all.Whether the sack comes now, or later in the season, you’d have to think the board are already sounding out replacement candidates so they can move quickly when they decide to pull the trigger.
It's as if you only met our board? They come up with only rushed decisions.Whether the sack comes now, or later in the season, you’d have to think the board are already sounding out replacement candidates so they can move quickly when they decide to pull the trigger.
Would I sack him now? Meh, who cares. The squad is complete shit from back to front, so it doesn’t make a great deal of difference in the short term.
I think you either have to sack early (i.e. now) or wait until the end of the season. Panicking in February if we’re in an actual relegation fight rarely seems to end well.While that is true, there can sometimes be some merit in delaying the inevitable. Sacking a manager in June paints a very different picture to sacking one in October. The latter is a full-blown crisis.
Enough with this please. James was given to us by Giggs, Maguire was the worlds most expensive defender not some gem Ole identified, and Wan was last years most talked about right back in the premier league. Ole hasnt discovered anybody. But he did decide to spend his whole transfer budget on defense and lead us into the new season with a worse midfield and attack than last year.That's not what I'm saying Summit.
What I'm saying is, the guy knows what a Man Utd player needs to be and this is evident in 3 good signing in the last window that fit the profile of players that played under SAF (good work ethic, mentally tough, push play forward).
Granted, tactically he is not up to the required standard, but he cannot get rid of all the shite in the squad at one go (Rojo, Jones, Lingard, etc.). Give him until the summer at least, recruit some players in January that fit the same profile, and in the summer get a top manager to take over the new squad.
We need our identity back before getting a new manager and restarting again. If the players at least have the work ethic and mental toughness, it will make it easier for the new manager.
Why not sack him now?Honestly do not think sacking him now would have any kind of positive impact. We'll stick with him until Christmas, at least.
Let's not get carried away, our goalscoring record is dismal, whichever way you look at it.Keep.
As other posters have said his 3 signings have been our better players this season.
We’re not having much luck at the minute - we need to kick on in games and get the second goal.
He’s got us creating chance after chance after chance.
I honestly think Ole needs time and patience from the fan base. Reset our expectations because we’re light years behind City and Liverpool. That’s not Oles fault. In one transfer window he culled a lot of deadwood- it’s clear as day the club are buying into his project. I’d be amazed if Woodward doesn’t give him 2 years at least.
We where in way worse positions under LVG (Christmas run) and Jose at the start of last season.
At least this year there’s shoots of positivity in the team- AWB, Maguire, Dan James, Scott McTominay. We’ve not been poor and with a bit more luck and clinical finishing we’d have beaten Wolves, Palace, Southampton and Arsenal. The only game for me where we’ve been terrible was West Ham last week- and did you see the likes of Mata, Matic play tonight?
To have a chance for NOT seeing Lingard, Young, Matic starting games for this club. To stop playing Pogba as a DM.iWhat's the point is sacking him?