I think we all know he lies alot. This is quite worrying about the team though. We always start well with high intensity after a break.
We've played 4 games in 9 days. Let that sink in. Chelsea had 48 extra hours to prepare against us, West Ham, had 48 hours extra to prepare against us. It's impossible for any 11 to be able to play to their best for 4 straight games in 9 days. The best teams rotate, but we're not in that place yet because if we rotate, we play Lingard and Dan James.
Sorry I don't get your argument. Are you saying we are not qualified to have reservations about Ole's coaching ability?
I appreciate that, hence why some slack towards him.
What’s wrong with playing Lingard and James? I mean we played West Ham. It’s like Pep moaning he couldn’t win the league because he had to play Foden instead of Jadon Sancho and Jesus instead of Mbappe.
The breakdown you stated in regards to what the glazers didn’t do right is correct, although partially.
Which is why you should judge things appropriately and not just on the fluke of a game. Regardless of if we win or lose on Sunday we should have enough information by now to judge this team and the person managing it. Abit like how we missed judged a team finishing second on 81points.
Chelsea played the same team and got ripped apart and conceded 5.
Your not listening to what he said though. There fitness levels were much better. There’s has to be a reason for that. They lost because they aren’t that good. We draw because West Ham aren’t that good. We can rely on individuals for a whole season if we want. But it plays out exactly how it has been with proof of last season being the same.
Eh? It's nothing like Pep moaning he had to play Foden. Foden is their equivalent talent-wise to us playing Greenwood.
That's such a strawman. So because you are not well-versed in a field you cannot criticize someone at all. Don't we criticize actor's performances in movies without having taken acting courses or ever having acted? Don't we criticize politicians when we have no knowledge of how to run a country? That's just poor defense. With your logic, we should just accept whatever crap we get from people in roles of influence as we're armchair whatever.
Exactly this unfortunately. We are top 4 (at the moment) in spite of Ole not because of him.
They got ripped apart, we know Chelsea have defensive problems.
Exactly, them being ripped apart has nothing to do with fitness. They started Kovacic and Jorginho in midfield.. let that sink in. They pressed Liverpool and they didn't look tired like we do.
Eh? Their fitness levels looked better because they had to play against a completely different style of team. We were playing against a side sitting deep for 90 mins. If we played against an attacking Liverpool we would have had space to run into and counter on, exactly like Chelsea did.
It was a completely different style of game. If we played Liverpool last night, Rashford, Martial, Bruno and Mason would have had a field day, they wouldn't have stopped running in behind.
I'm saying nobody on here is qualified enough to make such a sweeping statement along the lines that we need to buy a team of superhuman players so that they can overcome the apparent shortfalls of Ole and his coaching staff
My point is City are trying to win a league. We are trying to get top 4. Clearly a gulf in quality is the reason both teams sit where they are. But by no means does it mean we can’t rotate because Jesse Lingard isn’t as good as Foden. I mean we’ll durgh... we aren’t in a title battle. You think Chelsea are moaning because they have to rotate Giroud and Abraham? Or Pulisic and Pedro?
City are trying to win the league, because they have had a manager in place for a number of years and a transfer strategy which has resulted in a star studded team with options to rotate every week.
This is one of those rubbish arguments that gets thrown on and on and on.
Youre talking avout a manager that rushed Pogba back injured vs Rochdale because he was afraid of losing. Expecting rotation was maybe too much, unless you have a system and style of play of course
It's a real concern.
Gotcha. Needing a team of superhuman players to overcome Ole's coaching weaknesses is an exaggeration, but there's reasonable doubt surrounding his ability to get the most out of his squad. We don't need expert knowledge in football to see that our team is lacking in certain areas that can be associated with a coaching inadequacy. He could prove us wrong, but he certainly hasn't proven himself to be at the level we need yet.
I think we all know what is wrong with that and your comparison is bananas.
I mean,he did.
To be fair they were very flat against Crystal Palace and Norwich and got run ragged by Sheffield United, so its not like they've been turning out high energy performances every week.
Excuses. Excuses. Excuses. Excuses
That is also my impression. There has been a lot of talk about the improvement Ole and his staff have brought to the team, but frankly, between February 2019 and January 2020, I saw no signs of improvement whatsoever. During that period we were largely terrible and the only highlights were when we reverted to a Mourinhoesque low block and played on the break, which sometimes got us a result against one of the bigger sides. The rest of it was dreadful, with no noticeable signs of progress with or without the ball - in fact there was very little evidence of any coaching whatsoever. We made our worst start to a season in 30 years.
We don’t have a shite squad at all
Funny you should mention the last three games - do you want to know what the form of the teams above and around us has been over the course of the last 3 games?
City won the league with Mancini and Pellegrini. If all the stars are alined you might win the league 3 times in a row. But you don’t need them to be all aligned to have a title challenge or win the league. It’s like we are trying to win the perfect league. Similar to that phrase the perfect goal.
I get what you're saying but even with the bolded bit - Ole didnt exactly do that. He should've taken off Bruno around the 60th min mark when we've been 2 or 3 nil up.
