I think he’s done everything expected of him thus far. Now he needs to kick on. I think he can do that, but there’s no point in making judgements at this stage of the season (good or bad).
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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So it seems like despite having a poor quality 2nd team which is still unfit, Ole was able to pick a team away from home that easily despatched Brighton.
brilliant management. Well done Ole
brilliant management. Well done Ole
Bad day for you?
You’ll be a Liverpool supporter by the time that happens, so you probably wouldn’t care anymore.
Agreed. And of course posts on a forum can lose their nuance, or can be taken as black and white. Like you say, the reality is somewhere in the middle.
I think we have a good foundation. We haven’t had the ins and outs that we probably needed, but this is his team now, and this season is where we really judge him.
Brighton are far better coached though. Did you notice all their patterns of play tonight?
Individual brilliance 3 - 0 Brighton
There’s more chance of him getting a couple of extra inches.
What a melt
Was good to see Pogba finally out of that stupid 6 position aye.
I thought it was their substitutions
I haven't enjoyed watching us play yet this season. Seeing Brighton, Hove and freaking Albion pin us in our own half is depressing. Yeah, we won, through individual skill. I wish we could press and pass like Brighton Hove and Albacore.
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I'm jealous, very impressive I thought. I would love to see what our players could do with that system. Though we might need a few more runners, i.e. players that like to run.
Fair enough.
I think that where our opinions differ is that I think that we should've seen an obvious Ole effect on our play or fitness (which he publicly identified as an issue very early on) after a year and a half* I think it's more than unlikely to see him suddenly kick on as a manager this season, but we'll see. It'll be a tough season for many reasons, and I think that the squad's fitness issues (for lack of quality sub options more than lack of a pre-season) will be his undoing and that looking back on it, he should probably have gone for more players to fill out the squad rather than going for the most expensive player in every position.
* Or rather, I think this is as good as it gets with him in terms of coaching and player development, so what we're currently seeing is the "Ole effect". I don't think that he's been half-arsing his training sessions and now suddenly goes "alright, now it's time for the patterns to be introduced".
I would prefer that James becomes our Sancho so that we don't need to spend 120mil but that will not happen, isn't it?
How sad and pathetic.
Very tiresome some people at the moment when it comes to Ole.
You think the team was in a serious rut, with no light at the end of the season only a handful of games into the season after finishing very strong end of last season
Heard someone earlier saying earlier we arent getting deals done because the players dont want to play for Ole. Imagine coming to that conclusion with everything that's going on, and The fact Ole spoke direct to de beek and he made the decision to sign. Absolutely bonkers season for some people.
Wow, so original. Yes, me and all others who are Ole out will support Juve or Liverpool (must think about it, maybe PSG even. They are best bet for titles). But if he gets fired and go back in Norway, you will support his new club?
No, I actually want United to win.
And i don't? I just hate Ole for some reason so it is only about him?
Please no more Pogba as a dm..
please
please
You hate one of the most likeable club legends in Manchester United’s history who is currently managing the club & doing his upmost to improve us season on season. What a top fecking supporter you are.
Can’t believe some fans on here are using this victory over our b team over Brighton B team as some type of progress. Has Ole really lower our standards so much? Our most expensive player on the pitch probably cost more than Brighton full 11 today. Nevertheless, it good to see that we aren’t completely shite at football to loose to Brighton B side. Now hopefully, we can do much better in the games that matter and not rely so much on luck and set piece. Despite Spurs schedule congestion, they will still be a tough match. Hopefully, it won’t be another step backwards after Sunday.
Where did i say that i hate him?
Seemingly, you’re more bothered about criticising Ole than anything else. Now shoo, back to ignore with you.
Considering how most people said how our second team was barely championship quality, he did fairly well with what he had.
I literally quoted you saying “I just hate Ole”.Where did i say that i hate him?
I pity you.
as It seems you find it so difficult to get any joy whatsoever from the club you support. While everyone else is having a ball with Ole at the wheel.
Cheer up: we will lose a game soon enough and you’ll be able to moan to your hearts content.
These are the real discussions we should be having. I mean our best period was when we gave him freedom.
It was my question to other poster. Yes, i want him sacked but because i think he is not good enough for United. He makes it like i want him sacked because i hate Ole.
On other thread i put him on my greatest United legends list ffs.
Any win is a good win, there's nothing wrong with that and winning/getting the results is what matters, especially this early in the season. Every loss is magnified as the end of the world and the sacking of Ole, it's called overreaction.
Luck is a significant part of football...the ball is round, as are the balls that draw your next opponent in cup competitions. When the ball is round, shit will happen. It'll go against you or for you, just part of the game. Deflections, hitting the woodwork, etc.
Playing against Spurs, United cannot beat themselves and make mistakes that allow Spurs to punish them. Another quarter an hour for Pogba and Rashford did them well. More match fitness for all the players. Good to see Maguire kept out today to rest/recovery.
True.. If I remember correctly, Ole changed things after the psg game and we went to shit.
Yep was downhill ever since and has never been changed back.
We were terrible in the first half and as always it is the individual brilliance that came through. When you put a bunch of brilliant individual players together eventually they could pull something together. I think Ole does not coach the team and it is left to McKenna and Carrick. That is why we always seem to play the same way. Surely Ole can see that there is no movement off the ball and our shape most of the time is not right. Just because they are not regulars does not mean that they cannot play in a certain way? They may not have the talent to play as individually brilliant but in any set pattern they should be able to play.
Our movement off the ball was terrible most of the time.
I felt sorry for James today. Every time he tried to make a pass to Brandon, Brandon goes into a position that he cannot make a pass as he is blocked by a Brighton player and when James passes into open space commentators and everyone thinks James has made a terrible pass. Yes he was bad tonight but was made to look worse by Brandon
Our movement off the ball was terrible most of the time.
I felt sorry for James today. Every time he tried to make a pass to Brandon, Brandon goes into a position that he cannot make a pass as he is blocked by a Brighton player and when James passes into open space commentators and everyone thinks James has made a terrible pass. Yes he was bad tonight but was made to look worse by Brandon
We beat a second-string Brighton side, well done. Nothing to go crazy about. We weren't even that impressive.
no patterns of play today
Except we went on the best run ever to get third on league battering teams by four goal margins for fun.
but yeah slalom downhill run. Right you are.
Gassing up air you are. I hope you had the same smoke when Jose was getting us second.
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