Do some research mate. It will do you a world of good.
As a side-note if I m not wrong, we also lost 3-0 to Everton on the first day of that season.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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As a side-note if I m not wrong, we also lost 3-0 to Everton on the first day of that season.
Might have to sack him just to stop things getting worse. But Poch (who was my choice) can't fix this mess.
That would never have happened under Ferguson. Personally i think the players are not disciplined enough. Too much player power. Even today when we were 2-1 down Maguire was going forward and i said that will only lead to a spurs counter attack, which son messed up. Surely Ole had told the players this but they did not listen to him.
When we were 2-1 down, I was saying just keep it tight and try to equalize before half time. Then go from there.
Ole got out Mourinohed today.
I don't disagree re the boardroom - we have made some poor appointments, though.
Moyes and Solskjaer were both out of their depth and never up to the job, while Mourinho and Van Gaal were both past it.
It would be great to actually appoint someone competent, put a proper player recruitment structure in place and give them all a bit of time to have a run at it. Fairly simple to say, but seemingly impossible to actually do.
I don't know how anyone can talk about backing on the day Ole's record signing was a flop. The moneymen can look at Maguire and say that's what backing him gets us
Is sacking a manager 3 league games into a new season after finishing 3rd normal?
Sacking someone three games in is still knee jerk. Look, i am fecking disgusted by todays game and it has ruined my evening completely, but at the end of the day the only difference between losing by 5 goals and losing by one goal is a worse GD and hurt pride.
Also, this rot you mentioned has been here much longer than Ole and sacking him wont really help unless you get to the root cause of it.
Why do we look like we dont even give a shit?
If they sack Ole, who the f*** would want to come to this crap show with Woodard only concerned with making money for the grabbing Glazer family. The board have not backed the manager,again. It’s they who should go.
Been Ole out since the beginning, poor results, good results, just don't think he is good enough.
Bruno basically got us 3rd and I was pleased he got the player of the season. Don't think Ole did anything different to what he was doing when we were shit up until January.
Worse things at the club though than our manager.
Bruno basically got us 3rd and I was pleased he got the player of the season. Don't think Ole did anything different to what he was doing when we were shit up until January.
Worse things at the club though than our manager.
Poch says Hi.
Wasn't that what Ole was supposed to be doing so well at? The culture, mentality and recruitment are all just as shite as under Mourinho. Ole has achieved nothing in any of those areas.
Yeh the board are a bunch of cretins but we can't do anything about that until the Glazers decide to sell.
I don't think you'll find a single person who wants Ole out who doesn't also want Woodward, Judge and the Glazers out on their arses as well.
I think certain players have to go. Pogba especially. Too much player power in the club.
With those performances? Absolutely. He has lost it
Isn't that the purpose of man-management?
If he doesn't coach and can't stop the complacency then what's exactly his job?
My worry has been the erratic swings in confidence the team has. When we are good we are gold. When we are poor we seem to down tools easily. This surely is a mentality thing more than anything and the blame has to lie with the manager. There also seems to be a lack of coaching.
No was the answer you were looking for, it's not normal
Tell him I said hello.
"Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild." I'm Ole out but to be fair, how can he finish rebuild at rate of one player per window. Would take years!
We mustn't underestimate how much change the club needs to escape this malaise:
New owners
A new board and chief executive
A director of football
An investigation into the scouting at the club
A world class manager
A massive squad overhaul
That's what a club like Manchester United should have.
It's a failure from top to bottom.
Oh shut up. If you think it's just 3 games that's the issue you're deluded
That was a very different game though, as Evra said.
We lost Evans after 10 minutes and the players lost their heads trying to attack.
Today we should have been 4-1 down even before the red card. Then we properly shut up shop with 2 half time defensive subs and still go on to concede more.
Enough of this not backing shite. People were excusing the board for not buying players in 2018 market because Mourinho's transfers sucked. Ole has costed the club 80m on a clown of a defender that we'll never be able to get rid of and 50m on a fullback who can't attack. They also brought him Bruno who saved our arse last season. He was backed as good as LVG and Mourinho.
Complacency is leaving the oven on, fecking stupidity or a mistake is sticking a knife inside a toaster. You can remind people time and time again not to do stuff but it doesn't mean they won't do it.
I agree with that, but Ole has to take some responsibility - he generally sticks with players who are out of form, whatever. Pogba should have come off today - he was a liability. And not for the first time. Matic has had some good games recently, but was pretty awful today. Both these players stayed on the pitch. DVB should have come on for one of them, not for a goalscorer. And I don't for a minute say Mata would have made a difference - but surely you use your in form players??
Utd Next 5 games.
Newcastle
PSG
Chelsea
Leipzig
Arsenal
Will he be sacked if we dont win any of them.
Newcastle
PSG
Chelsea
Leipzig
Arsenal
Will he be sacked if we dont win any of them.
Yeah I'm deluded... You just said the manager should be sacked because he lost one game 6-1.And it was City, not Tottenham. Man City who had much better squad and won the league this year.
This one is a much bigger disaster.
That Bruno Matic and Pogba is not properly balanced. Get Van De Beek in there, at least he's got the legs to press. Matic and Pogba in the same midfield is just asking for trouble.
When did it last happen that a manager produced that?
The SAF lost games crew is coming out.
Again it's more than one game, and stop the false equivalencies with stuff under SAF it'll always make Ole look much worse.
Again it's more than one game, and stop the false equivalencies with stuff under SAF it'll always make Ole look much worse.
Did he say the famous "its not good enough" phrase?
Other clubs spend 200m on 4-5 players. We haven't been shrewd
Obviously it would be ridiculous to sack him based on 1 defeat,but if we don’t see tangible,discernible,substantial progress within the next few months,then I think he should be sacked.I have always had reservations about his suitability for the job,although I didn’t want him to be sacked halfway through last season.,.,..I thought our performances in the second half of last season warranted giving Ole another season at the helm...But if things don’t turn around quickly,then I would want us to act decisively and make a change.....
Yep, we lost all our semi finals also, tactically naive and one dimensional. He is not good enough and finishing third with points closer to relegation than the league winners is seen as a positive!? When Jose got second and 14 points more than Ole it was seen as nothing as we were miles behind City. The bias is strong with this one.
Plus Bruno was the difference between 3rd and 6th not Ole.
He's safe for now, unfortunately. I think he's at least another two drubbing away from getting the boot. Plenty of chances for this in the upcoming fixtures.
If past results are anything to go by we seem to be doing pretty well vs the better teams with Ole.
Tottenham were 2 points behind us when Mourinho took over, and finished the season 7 points behind us. Great work from Mourinho.
I think he should probably go, but I also think whoever we get next will meet a similar fate.
I don’t know where we go from here, it all feels hopeless.
I don’t know where we go from here, it all feels hopeless.
It would be unreasonable to sack him prior to 10 league games in even if we know which way it's going. If you put a club legend in charge you can't sack prior to it being absolutely necessary.
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