Jesus wept I know right just park the fecking bus
Just.... Don't.... Mention.... It... Again 
I still have nightmares about that day.Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Just.... Don't.... Mention.... It... Again I still have nightmares about that day.Couldn't be bothered to do all the teams as it would take a considerable amount of time, feel free to request a club if you want and i'll lob it in the table.
League form since leagues restarted from lockdown:
Sorted the list by highest win %.
Not bad from us, seems like we've been one of the best teams to cope after the lockdown in Europe. @glazed thought you'd be interested in this. We're also got the 5th highest goals per game ratio with 2.4 goals a game.
League form since leagues restarted from lockdown:
Sorted the list by highest win %.
Club | Games | W | D | L | Win % | CS | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Bayern Munich | 13 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 92% | 6 | 44 | 14 | 30 |
AC Milan | 16 | 13 | 3 | 0 | 81% | 6 | 44 | 13 | 31 |
Real Madrid | 16 | 13 | 2 | 1 | 81% | 9 | 27 | 9 | 18 |
Manchester City | 14 | 10 | 1 | 3 | 71% | 8 | 41 | 11 | 30 |
Borussia Dortmund | 13 | 9 | 0 | 4 | 69% | 8 | 24 | 10 | 14 |
Napoli | 16 | 10 | 2 | 4 | 63% | 4 | 32 | 18 | 14 |
AS Roma | 16 | 10 | 2 | 4 | 63% | 2 | 34 | 23 | 11 |
Manchester United | 13 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 62% | 5 | 31 | 18 | 13 |
Barcelona | 15 | 9 | 4 | 2 | 60% | 9 | 31 | 9 | 22 |
Atletico Madrid | 15 | 9 | 6 | 0 | 60% | 9 | 28 | 7 | 21 |
Inter Milan | 17 | 10 | 5 | 2 | 59% | 6 | 43 | 20 | 23 |
Villarreal | 17 | 10 | 3 | 4 | 59% | 7 | 27 | 19 | 8 |
Liverpool | 14 | 8 | 2 | 4 | 57% | 4 | 27 | 18 | 9 |
Chelsea | 14 | 8 | 2 | 4 | 57% | 4 | 31 | 24 | 7 |
Wolves | 14 | 8 | 1 | 5 | 57% | 8 | 15 | 13 | 2 |
RB Leipzig | 13 | 7 | 5 | 1 | 54% | 4 | 29 | 13 | 16 |
Sevilla | 15 | 8 | 6 | 1 | 53% | 8 | 20 | 8 | 12 |
Arsenal | 15 | 8 | 1 | 6 | 53% | 4 | 24 | 18 | 6 |
Tottenham | 14 | 7 | 5 | 2 | 50% | 4 | 29 | 15 | 14 |
Juventus | 16 | 8 | 4 | 4 | 50% | 5 | 35 | 22 | 13 |
Southampton | 14 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 50% | 5 | 24 | 17 | 7 |
Borussia Moönchengladbach | 13 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 46% | 2 | 22 | 16 | 6 |
Athletic Bilbao | 16 | 6 | 2 | 8 | 38% | 3 | 16 | 20 | -4 |
Lazio | 16 | 6 | 2 | 8 | 38% | 3 | 23 | 27 | -4 |
Leicester | 14 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 36% | 4 | 21 | 21 | 0 |
Valencia | 17 | 5 | 3 | 9 | 29% | 3 | 16 | 23 | -7 |
Real Sociedad | 17 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 29% | 5 | 21 | 17 | 4 |
Not bad from us, seems like we've been one of the best teams to cope after the lockdown in Europe. @glazed thought you'd be interested in this. We're also got the 5th highest goals per game ratio with 2.4 goals a game.
Fantastic effort, thanks for building this
Fair enough. I agree we have a decent points record in the league post lock down. I hope you will agree that our performances post lockdown have been significantly worse than before, that both our performances and results pre-lockdown were also significantly better, and that our non-league results post lockdown were quite poor (Chelsea, Sevilla in particular). And in some of those league games (Brighton, Leicester) we were lucky to get points.
I'd say, performance wise i'd agree with that assessment. We started off strong and gradually that form waned to the point we were scraping through games and importantly still getting results. However, when you put our results in context with others in Europe you'll also understand that we coped very well with it on the whole.
If we're talking about non league results, we've played 8 games, won 6, lost 2. The Chelsea result for me was the big disappointment as we were generally not really in that game. We didn't turn up at all. The Europa final was one that slipped out of our hands, that was frustrating rather than poor. But that's how semi finals go sometimes.
All teams in that table will have had games where they rode their luck to get the wins. Obviously you don't see any luck involved for Sevilla when they beat us despite us having 20 shots to their 9.
Well, yes ?
So, when is enough sacking? Or when do you give time for a manager to build a team?
To be fair if you are in two knock-out competitions, two is the most you can lose. Depends if you think going out (opinion: rather meekly) in the semi-finals of two (opinion: low prestige) competitions is good or bad.
I'd say the Chelsea loss was very disappointing. I honestly felt very flat after that. The Sevilla game we played well, just wasn't happening.
Yeah agree. Though honestly I would have played the reserves in both games anyway.
I agree that luck always plays a part in any game. I'm trying to pick out the big patterns but tbh we lack sufficient data to be definitive. All we know is we finished third last season (just) and no silverware, and that is the benchmark for this season. Maybe PSG and Newcastle were outliers. Maybe Spurs was. We will know more tomorrow.
Great info, cheers buddy!
Promising to see us in comparison to the other top clubs, in difficult times. And whilst getting unceremoniously shafted by Woodward all summer...
I hope Ole can keep team spirits high over the next few weeks, Manchester going into level 3 'lockdown' might not affect the players/club directly, but it's likely to affect their families and personal teams/assistants. Got to keep our eye on nothing but the next game.
I feel the PSG result will give Ole and the coaching team some leeway should we get beat tomorrow. But it shouldn’t.
Our home record of late is garbage and we get played off the park with ease.
If defeat tomorrow doesn’t set alarm bells off at board room level then we see screwed.
Our home record of late is garbage and we get played off the park with ease.
If defeat tomorrow doesn’t set alarm bells off at board room level then we see screwed.
We still have not hit the consistency we need and that is largely due to the lack of depth in some positions. However, ole has shown that he can present some great tactical games. He’s done it several times already. We need to reach to a point where players can be rotated without a significant drop in the overall performance.
You sound disappointed!
Alarm bells about what? “We didn’t do our job” signing players? Yes it should!
We had a very good result against PSG. We were not played off the park like against Spurs. We played very well and Ole got his tactics right and his team selection right. Scott and Fred had a very good game in midfield. I think the two up front with Bruno in an attacking midfield role was good. Even James when he came on was good. We should play like that against Chelsea. Same team but obviously Martial has to be replaced. We should stop playing wingers as in the past.
We’ve been played off the park at OT this season. We played well in Paris.
Ole needs to sort OT form out. That’s what I was saying.
Another master stroke by Ole? He tricked Lampard changing it up. But I’m not to sure about this line up. Can go either way. I feel nervous and exited all in one
Considering the team got leaked this morning, not exactly a surprise either.
Ridiculous line up.
I hope our players don't get tricked too.
It's a risky one no doubt.
They'll call a masterclass if it pays off. They'll be less than kind should it fail though.
The focus will be on how bad individual players are/were, rather than why the hell they were fielded in the first place.
Mentioning no names, you know the main culprit anyway. Why he started I will never know. And his performance has proved exactly why he shouldn’t even be at the club, never mind starting a huge game against Chelsea.
But it’ll be the player’s fault, and never Ole’s.
Mentioning no names, you know the main culprit anyway. Why he started I will never know. And his performance has proved exactly why he shouldn’t even be at the club, never mind starting a huge game against Chelsea.
But it’ll be the player’s fault, and never Ole’s.
Nothing wrong with giving the lad a second chance, he won’t get many more. Ole has not been shown to stick with players that aren’t performing, at the business end of last season James was nowhere to be found. Now we’re in a new season, he’s been given another chance, but he’ll soon lose his place.
A second chance? He's made over 40 appearances, not registered a single assist or goal in ten months and keeps starting, even in a game like this.
We're not losing the game?
He really dropped out of favour at the end of last season, and has only started two league games this season. I promise you he will not play much more if his performances don’t improve.
I’m really not sure what your point is here?!
Why is Fred still on the Pitch? I actually hate the way Ole gives the likes of Dan James minutes he is so so so so so bad. Mctominay has been crap too.
Donny van de WHO
When did we last win at home? Ole’s at the wheel.
Oles fault this you can’t start Dan James and expect to compete when you have DVB 40m on the bench!
Never going to be consistent or good enough to bring us anywhere close to a title. Anyone who deems our home form not concerning is also bonkers.
fecking disgusting lineup.
feck this shite
feck this shite
He has the gall to smirk at the end like this was a good performance and result?! Sack. Sack. Sack.
A win against a understrength PSG obviously completely glosses over not being able to win at OT in 5 games.
I prefer LVG to this shite. At least he tried to implement something.
Those dropped points on Ole. Terrible selection on an easily winnable game.
Play your best players ffs
Play your best players ffs
I like the squad he is building but his need to stick to a certain tactic and certain players pisses me off.
Absolute state of him and lampard smiling after that turdfest
Pathetic from 2 small-time managers
Pathetic from 2 small-time managers
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