for all the moping and feeling sorry for himself Ralf has actually given him lots of gametime to prove himself. Get rid and lay a marker down this shit doesnt fly anymore
Would you sell Rashford?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
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He got from A to B with the ball. That’ll do for me. Shame he doesn’t do that any more.
True. I was just saying you can’t just go on the most recent season and forget about his previous level.
Rashford at his best was nowhere close to prime Rooney, I wasn’t comparing them. I was pointing out the similar skewed perception of their quality after periods of poor performance. With Rooney it was age etc but we don’t know why Rashford has declined so much. My point is that he is young enough to regain his best levels and even improve. It’s a decision for ETH; I won’t lose sleep if he is sold.
My mentality will not affect our prospects for success.
The point was we have a very promising player who has had a terrible run of it with injury and poor form. We could sell the lot of them and start from scratch and I wouldn’t mind that but if we’re going to keep some of these lads, then he is one that is worth some effort and patience under the new manager. I wouldn’t apply that to everyone and if ETH doesn’t agree, he ships him out and that’s okay with me.
I don't think Rashfird's head is totally into football. He seems to be just as concerned with being some kind of social justice warrior. If he's not going to give 100% of what he has to football, we should sell him. I would hate to sell him, I think he's a very good player, but if his head is elsewhere , he's not good enough to get away giving football have his attention.
He's not a 9. He's never been a good 9. He said a few times he doesn't even want to be a 9. One his worst attributes is a required strength for a 9 (hold up play with back to goal). This would be a madness idea.
Rashford isn't being sold this summer. End of discussion.
Yeah I laughed at that as well. Can’t see anyone paying more than about £25m.
On recent form he is almost unsellable. That’s another reason why I wouldn’t mind ETH persevering with him.
Rashford Pogba and Lingard are all players living off relatively short purple patches that makes people harbour the faint hope they can replicate it again in the future over a longer period. The truth is for the last 6 years with these guys we’ve been absolutely miles off the biggest prizes, nowhere close. No real consistency over a whole season. Quite often far too lazy on the pitch. Big wages. Fitness worries with Pogba and Rashford. Rash and Pogba supposedly need teams to be totally built around them or the excuses start up again. They Aren’t really team players etc. all 3 seem to enjoy the celebrity of football more than excelling on the pitch at any cost. what more do people really need to see? It’s been long enough and we keep choking. We badly need to change it up.
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Yeah I can't see us selling him either, unless he requests a transfer.
Hopefully Ten Hag can resuscitate him
Hopefully Ten Hag can resuscitate him
Wonder if his phone has stopped ringing by now. These days the poor love probably keeps cold callers on the line until they hang up.
The thing is if he really wants to be a social activist and all that ,he would actually need to be good at football , no one will give a shit if he's some average player.
Everyone tries to emulate ali and the like but in the process they forget that they were actually very good in their main job, like supremely good.
Everyone tries to emulate ali and the like but in the process they forget that they were actually very good in their main job, like supremely good.
If he can, great. The stank of playing like he isn’t arsed because he’s sulking about no longer being there centre of the universe will linger for a while IMO
Rashford and Lingard are staying. Or so I hear.
No chance someone comes in with a silly money offer to buy him, so we'll just have to hope that the new manager is the first guy since Fergie to get the best out of players.
It's quite a struggle to name a signing we've made since Fergie left that has either been a definite prolonged success, or improved.
You don't back us to bring someone better in, that's the biggest concern with any Rashford sale.
It's quite a struggle to name a signing we've made since Fergie left that has either been a definite prolonged success, or improved.
You don't back us to bring someone better in, that's the biggest concern with any Rashford sale.
more like social media warrior
Marcus i wouldn't be surprised.
He still has a contract.
Jesse on the other hand....why would ETH want him to stay?
And, why would he want to stay? He needs regular football.
Considering the tripe being sold for a 100 million and the hilarious ideas in the market such as Ruben Neves being a 100 mil, if we play the supply and demand curve well, I genuinely believe we could get this, even if it does sound ridiculous at his current state. The supply of wide forwards is limited as hell, and a lot of clubs believe Manchester United's players are capable of more outside of Manchester United's systems. In the hands of a good negotiator (no idea who that could be), his temporary form could be brushed away for the value he holds in the future. We just need to pretend really well that we don't want to let him go.
Even if there is an inflation, it ( the 80+ millions sales) still happens to players who are playing well and/or who have vital roles for their teams. Rashford is neither of those things
Have him for one more season and see how he performs. I still think there's a world class player in him. It would be terrible to see him comeback and haunt us.
I'll sell him a hundred times over.
Sorry to pick you out, but that’s something that keeps getting repeated.
Where’s the evidence that ” there’s a world class player” in there?
Up until last season, we saw a bright young player, with plenty of pace, scoring a good number of goals, mostly from sprinting free behind the opposition’s back line, on the counter attack; but little else.
He also dribbled and beat a few players, even with the odd nutmeg or trick or two, but his decision making was poor and he looked very raw.
It was brilliant, but wasn’t evidence of being “ world class” at anything. Plus, it was a couple of season’s ago now.
Would you call Jamie Vardy, with his much superior goal scoring tally, “world class”?
World class is becoming a completely overused term for players who are just good or very good, for some or most of the time.
Real world class is on a completely different level, something we’ve never remotely seen from Rashford, certainly not over the last two seasons, so why do people believe it’s going to miraculously emerge if he can regain any sort of mojo and form?
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If we sold every player who had a bad 18 months from the current team we'd only have Ronaldo left. Hahahahaha.
Even DDG had a bad 18 months to 2 years not that long ago for us although he has recovered his form now.
Even DDG had a bad 18 months to 2 years not that long ago for us although he has recovered his form now.
Agreed. Seconded. This. Thirded.
He has one more chance next season to redeem himself. Which Im sure he will once Ten Hag gets us playing better football AS A TEAM.
This failure rangnick has destroyed the confidence of everyone and basically done the opposite of building a team.
This failure rangnick has destroyed the confidence of everyone and basically done the opposite of building a team.
Who's saying to retain them ? I want the entire lot moved out in the next 3 windows.
Rashford was shit long before rangnick dropped his first turd in england let alone manchester.
I have a feeling now that we're moving past the post-covid economics to an extent, that the inflation won't be as hard-defined as that. Also, Rashford was core under Ole, so it's just a matter of how seriously the buying club think of Rangnick, in which case they're not going to be in to buy the lad at all. At the end of the day, it's a marketing play more than a football play tbh.
Which is just not going to happen.
A world class coach will get 50-60% more out of some of these players including Rashford.
His numbers for us up until this season have been more than decent. I think people have short memories and can't look past his recent form. You only have to go back and watch his goals and assists from previous few seasons to realise there's a good player in there somewhere.
But if we start with the ones with a rotten attitude then Rashford would be first out of the door unfortunately for you.
You really don't like him do you? Hahahaha.
I loved him until this season and even now i actually think he should be given one more season, what I really dislike is the hypocrisy, you’ve got a litany of excuses for him whilst constantly digging out fans who defend players you dislike. I just wish fans were equally supportive to all our players.
Would keep him one more season at least.
He's just 25, began pretty early, so he can have an bad season after all.
I think that with a good summer of rest, a good preparation and hopefully a better environment in the team, he would regain his focus and legs.
He's just 25, began pretty early, so he can have an bad season after all.
I think that with a good summer of rest, a good preparation and hopefully a better environment in the team, he would regain his focus and legs.
I have kept the faith. If he has another bad season next year then that may be that.
If we can get him back to anything like his best he immediately becomes one of our best players.
Starting to think that maybe it's the back injury still plaguing him though.
To be fair he was injured for 3 months of this season.
He wasn't anywhere near as bad last season.
The reason I don’t think it’s that is because he was still very good at the beginning of last season, he still looked very explosive, and he was scoring and creating a lot. That’s why I’m worried it’s something more, but I’d be interested to see him given a run of games back on the left under Ten Haag. He’s one of our few players that’s hit a high level for us over the course of a season so it’s probably worth the gamble to see if he can get back to that level.
Rashford got injured last season though and got played through it?