He'll go to City and dominate there. We'll be left with Rodgers 
Would you take Ten Hag at United?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Laurent blanc would be a decent interim manager.
Thanks for replies. I've only watched Ajax/his teams a handful of times in Europe since De Jong left, and that was usually because of the opponent ('scouting' Dortmund's talent progression, for example), so I'm arriving to this party late in solely scoping him and his team out rather than the opposition or the whole game.
I very much like what I saw yesterday and the clever way they work inside to out and don't make the obvious action, but drag men where they want them to be before then doing the next thing in the chain, what's more impressive is watching the men off the ball in those build-ups going into the next place for optimal progression, again and again, like a carousel. Also how they spring the moment the ball is lost from those same positions. It's a challenge to deal with and I can only see how much more problematic that would become with better players doing the same thing.
I like the attitude of his teams and the certainty of purpose they have - it's no longer 'little underdog Ajax' as it had been for a long time before De Jong and co burst onto the scene.
I want us to become an attacking and progressive team with a clear plan and assured way of playing that the team buys into and executes to the best of their ability. It'd be a start, and at least appease by the fact we would feel like we're actually collectively working towards something.
As I said in my previous post, if he can handle the off-field stuff, I don't see what the objection would be to appointing him (if he would go for us rather than others who'll covet him).
Apparently, City want Rodgers to replace Pep when he leaves but knowing us we'll make the first move and get Rodgers.He'll go to City and dominate there. We'll be left with Rodgers
He's the clear stand out manager of the moment.
For me he's doing what Klopp did at Dortmund. Watching how their team plays football - lets not forget they've got Davy Klaassen in midfield ffs!
The things he could do with our squad
unfortunately though the united way dictates we have to skip midfield and chuck it to a forward.
For me he's doing what Klopp did at Dortmund. Watching how their team plays football - lets not forget they've got Davy Klaassen in midfield ffs!
The things he could do with our squad
unfortunately though the united way dictates we have to skip midfield and chuck it to a forward.Ten Hag in the below video (at 3:27) says himself and Steve McLaren visited Fergie and had Coffee with him, when Fergie was manager at United.
Are we actually interested in Ten Hag or is it a fan wish?
And what an onslaught is is! Three people citing the goal difference. Merciless online bullying, hope @KirkDuyt will pull through.
I really think this guy would make us contenders, if we followed a solid recruitment model and stopped letting imbeciles like Woodward and Company run the club like its a hotel.
Same. Lets just cross our fingers and hope our fecking board is proactive for once and gets this guy signed up, regardless of how long Ole survives this season.He's the clear stand out manager of the moment.
For me he's doing what Klopp did at Dortmund. Watching how their team plays football - lets not forget they've got Davy Klaassen in midfield ffs!
The things he could do with our squad
I've been fiercly backing Ole for a long time, and had really high hopes coming into this season, but its abundantly clear now he does not have what it takes to take us to the next level.
Why do people do this? It's pointless self-indulgent pessimism that adds literally nothing. I can appreciate the board isn't the most proactive at times, but their biggest failing has been too slow to fire managers that have proven they aren't up to task. Our previous appointments all made sense at the time, however. Regardless, Ten Hag isn't joining us midway through the season so there's no point getting flustered right now. By all accounts we're starting to get some of the behind the scenes appointments in order, so someone like Ten Hag surely isn't out of the question. We're fast running out of options anyway!He'll go to City and dominate there. We'll be left with Rodgers
Its more of a "what's next and what's best, beyond the chaotic now, for our club".
The barcodes will probably swoop for him.
Good analysis, i only think that Bruno would go the Ziyech way. So he'll be removed from the 10 position and will go to the wing and the midfield would be changed up to a 3 man midfield. Not a bad thing though, because like you said, he gives a lot of freedom to his wingers. Ziyech was playing as a winger, but roamed almost every where. But that only works when there was a wingback behind him.
Erik Ten Hag is the ideal replacement of Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. The lucky part for the rest of the clubs is that Pep would leave in June 2023 eventually. So basically Ten Hag could be tempted by another club in the coming summer. I always thought that he is nailed on to be the next coach of Bayern Munchen but Nagelsmann just started there and i believe he will be there for the next 3-4 years. Barcelona is another club that potentially suits Ten Hag but i believe that Xavi Hernandez would be the coach for them in the next few years. I dont see Ten Hag in Italy, although coaching AC Milan would be an interesting challange. So there is a big chance Ten Hag to be the next United manager but as always there are a lot of obstacles that to happen.
The frustrating thing is you know if City, Pool or Bayern were looking for managers now they would have swooped in and got it done.
Meanwhile our pathetic board are obsessed with the insane insistence of trying to replicate the Fergie years by putting their weight behind a United legend (Ole) who happens to be a very poor coach, or a British manager (Brendon), meaning we'll be doomed to underwhelm for years to come.
I really wish the CO92 and old guard bugger off instead of dragging the club down with their nepotism and cringey obsession with "The United Way".
Meanwhile our pathetic board are obsessed with the insane insistence of trying to replicate the Fergie years by putting their weight behind a United legend (Ole) who happens to be a very poor coach, or a British manager (Brendon), meaning we'll be doomed to underwhelm for years to come.
I really wish the CO92 and old guard bugger off instead of dragging the club down with their nepotism and cringey obsession with "The United Way".
Which of these clubs last signed an employed manager mid season?
I don't think Rodgers is a bad choice, I think he will be a marked improvement. But I think Ten Hag is clearly on the path to greatness, and this is a golden opportunity for the club culture to shift.
He sounds and acts like Pep on steroids.
Bayern in April 2021..
He didn't start there mid season, though. So what's the point?
Pretty hilarious. He sounds like if the village idiot was bitten by a radioactive Pep-spider.
The German football term "positiv bekloppt" (something like 'upbeat gaga') comes to mind.
Ajax are a big club too but you are right he can easily choke here. Ole isn't working and there is no Klopp or Pep out there. We have to take a risk on a guy who has the potential to reach that level. Nagelsmann and Ten Hag are the obvious choices in that category. Rose was also but Ten Hag has shown he is superior.
We were 'looking for a manager, swooped in and got it done'. Paid a massive fee too, I might add.
No clue why that short video of Ten Hag is posted in here opposed to some of his more serious press conferences in English.
His speaking/accent/English is a complete non-issue and some posters seem hell-bent on making it an actual thing, which is very weird.
His speaking/accent/English is a complete non-issue and some posters seem hell-bent on making it an actual thing, which is very weird.
I’m just offering my opinion
Two months before the season ended, not seven. After your coach ditched you, not after you sacked him.
I couldn't give a shit if he sounded like Ashley Peacock as long as he could do the job. I mean, has anybody actually heard Jurgen twitchfeind Klopp?
I didn't mean sign him mid-season, but rather prepare for a summer arrival - the same way City had everything in place for Pep to join them in the summer of 2016. Wish we were doing the same for Ten Hag now. I'd imagine Bayern were also in early contact with Nagelsmann to ensure a smooth transition too.
It is a complete non issue, and weird thing to nitpick on. We currently have a manager who waffles a whole load of vacuous nonsense in press conferences, and the favourite to succeed him is essentially the Northern Irish David Brent. So not entirely sure why we think ETH not being a professor of the English language is suddenly an issue.
Manifest it mate and if the board don't listen, we riot
People keep asking if he can adapt to the pressure of our club. That worry is a bit irrelevant when we've reached the point where we'd ask that question to every other manager that's attainable from now or at the end of the season
Yeah that makes sense for me, although City was largely criticised for handling Pellegrini's situation, weren't they?
Barring Donny who hasn't been really given a fair crack of the whip, have we had as much footballing success with a (non-UK) nation as we have with the Netherlands?
I think that was more because Pelligrini had done a decent job and deserved to be treated better. It was always gonna happen there though, they'd been preparing for pep for years.
I mean from what I understood, City were quite transparent with Pellegrini in letting him know Pep was coming. You could argue it wasn't ideal for the team knowing they were playing for an outgoing manager, but they did make it to the semi finals of the CL that season and went out due to an own goal, so you could argue it didn't really have too much of an impact.
I wouldn't compare Pellegrini to Ole anyway - the former is a distinguished coach who had brought City some success, so you could rightly argue he was mistreated. Ole however is a complete disaster that should have been let go a while ago, so binning him would be overdue rather than harsh.
Based on yesterday's game he's LVG on attack steroids. Same base style of football, coupled with Guardiolas possession obsession and German machine football mentality. Not a bad combination at all all be fair.
I was impressed with how players basically hit passes blind and knew where their teammates were. Fluid football with a clear shape, they were also brilliantly organised throughout The few mistakes they made was clearly down to individual errors or lack of technical ability, which is frankly the opposite of our situation. Would be very interesting to see him managing a team of top talent, I wonder just how good that team would be...
I was impressed with how players basically hit passes blind and knew where their teammates were. Fluid football with a clear shape, they were also brilliantly organised throughout The few mistakes they made was clearly down to individual errors or lack of technical ability, which is frankly the opposite of our situation. Would be very interesting to see him managing a team of top talent, I wonder just how good that team would be...
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