I am right I rechecked. That 80% of salary is subject to a maximum payment of 2.5k per month (just above median wage)
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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WTF? You feel sorry for him for actually having a grasp of how things work?
30% infection rate from only 2000 tests suggests the numbers in the UK are a lot, lot higher than what's currently being reported.
Where's the logic in closing all those places but then leaving shopping centres open? 
Sounds like a lot of you are in the same boat, so I’d expect measures to cater for you up next, hopefully.
Are these random tests of general population, or tests of people with coronavirus symptoms?
If it's tests of people with symptoms, then 30% isn't too bad.
If it's testing the general population with or without symptoms, 30% would be a staggeringly high number.
Because lots of food, pharmacy and grocery retailers are in shopping centres?Where's the logic in closing all those places but then leaving shopping centres open?
But they haven't forced closure of nonessential retail stores?
Well I hope you're right, as a tax deferment, and telling you that a benefit you don't claim will be topped up just doesn't cut it.
I have no issue with paying more tax further down the line to help extract the country from the financial black hole this must be creating, but I need practical, easy to get help very soon, just like the employed sector has been given.
Only 2000 tests in UK but yesterday we had 8k and day before 6k.
At least today the deaths are pretty low.
With half as many ICU beds as Italy and 2.5-2.8 beds per 1000 I fear UK is going to get hit hard soon, even if the cases are lower and testing is higher than some other countries at the end. Poor healthcare, near bottom of 40 countries for ICU/beds, poor health of the general public and careless attitudes and no mask wearing will take it's toll.
At least today the deaths are pretty low.
With half as many ICU beds as Italy and 2.5-2.8 beds per 1000 I fear UK is going to get hit hard soon, even if the cases are lower and testing is higher than some other countries at the end. Poor healthcare, near bottom of 40 countries for ICU/beds, poor health of the general public and careless attitudes and no mask wearing will take it's toll.
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If you do more testing then you are able to treat them earlier so they have a better chance of recovery. Korea tests about 16,000 at least per day. That gave them enough information and notice on who to treat immediately or not. That saved a lot of lives. Apart from China and Korea no one is or was testing this way. All respectable doctors and scientists and WHO is saying the same thing. Test and test and more testing.
Are you quoting the wrong person? The conversation i was part of was self employed persons, not employees
No, not really. I was much, much worse when i had a streptococcus infection some year past
Problem with the UK's testing giving that many positive hits is that aren't they now supposed to be focusing primarily on NHS workers?
Does anybody know what the situation with testing is in Italy?
Son is 17 months, missus is 31 and im 33
My wife works at a hospital and said 2 patients might not make it anymore with the virus. Both in late 50s and neither with any underlying respiratory issues. Blood pressure and diabetes. That's all.
Really scary stuff.
Really scary stuff.
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They made assurances that they would be doing it but didn't say when. They also said they'd be ramping up testing which obviously hit a bump in the road yesterday.
If they're still focussing on testing inpatients it would explain the hit rate, but not why there was such a drop off in the total carried out.
This is the perfect time to implement UBI.
Blood pressure, diabetes and heat disease are the three comorbidities most commonly found in people that die from this. Nearly all people that die from it have a comorbidity.
Problem for Boris is that he’s being completely upstaged by his deputy.
Very relieved to see the government pledges on wage. It was expected but not unwelcome. Our agency has been on the precipice of ceasing for the past week. I can now fully isolate with family without any immediate concern.
Nice. Wish I was in the same position
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Straight up, if we manage to return to normality by this winter then Rishi might be odds on for next PM
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You lot are fecking dangerous.
People seem to have responded positively to Sunak because he's at least capable of striking a more statesman like tone when speaking, as below. I don't think Boris would be capable of striking that tone as the semi-smirking, misbehaving schoolchild image he projects robs him of gravitas. While that has worked for him in other contexts, it's hindering him now.
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Churchgoers shouldn’t be the problem, but you never know. Pray that virus away!
I've been looking into this a bit due to my brother being asthmatic (and a carefree asshat). There isn't anything definitive, but it seems to very much depend on how serious your asthma is along with how old you are. If you have poorly controlled asthma or have to take steroid pills then the NHS defines you along with COPD sufferers as being in a high risk group. Those that are inhaler only are not given any specific guidance other than to be wary.
Actual research is thin on the ground and I haven't managed to come across a study that specifically isolates asthmatics as a group, let alone stratifies them by severity. The nearest I've got is this study that I posted on March 11th: Comorbidity and its impact on 1,590 patients with COVID-19 in China: A Nationwide Analysis
Here's the relevant table from that study (need to remember that it is a very rough guide):
As you can see Asthma isn't covered, only people with COPD. What this basically says is that people with COPD are roughly 2.681 times more likely to die than a healthy person in the same age group. So as a best guess if I'm 30 and suffer from COPD I have a 0.2 x 2.681 = 0.54% and chance of dying. Note the confidence interval is very wide indeed here, and the study can only say with 95% certainty that the true hazard ratio lies somewhere between 1.424 and 5.048.
This doesn't correspond 1:1 to the hazard ratio associated with severe asthma and represents the very worst estimate an asthma sufferer would have. It will vastly overstate the risk associated with milder asthma. In terms of studies around this area though it's the best I've got as of now.
It's also important to note that there is no evidence of people with asthma being more prone to contracting the disease, and that Asthma UK and ACAII (the American one) both say that there is no elevated risk from continuing to take your medication.
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Only people with strong or severe symptoms that tick the corona box I’d imagine, or if you’ve got lots of money like a footballer....
The criteria for being tested has clearly been narrowed. My ex’s mum had a bad cough and breathing difficulties a few days back but no fever or temperature so they didn’t test her or take her into hospital and said it’s probably a chest infection. Apparently the LAS crew came out in fully protective gear. In a perfect world we’d test everybody but we clearly don’t have the resources so it makes sense testing in a box ticking sort of way.
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Mother and father in law went to church last Sunday. They do this thing where they take a minute to hug everyone near them each service and despite clear advice on how to engage with other people, still did it this week. Idiots
I told them not to bother asking to come to my house to see kids... if they can't be arsed to avoid dozens of people, don't see why me/my family should increase our risk.
Sure they'll be ok though, their faith will beat Covid 19
FFS
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They can't leave us in such suspense was the check right? Did they have a house?